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Favorite GP/MotGP riders of all time

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Swindon. Wiltshire
Hi guys. Dont know if this has been done already, but I'm bored!
Just a chance for people to rate their all time favs, and a bit of justification.
Mine go like this...

Valentino Rossi
What can I really say that has'nt been said already. 8 titles on different machinery in all classes, the guy is possibly the best rider of all time. No more justification needed!

Kevin Schwantz
Probably not very high on most others lists, but for me watching Schwantz ride the balls off the Suzuki was pure joy. Only one GP title to his name, but this is mainly down to his running battle with Wayne Rainey. He and Rainey made for one of the most exiting periods of GP racing ever, swapping paint and the lead on every corner. Because of the lack of Suzuki grunt, Schantz had to make it all up on the brakes and corner speed. This ultimately led to quite a lot of crashes, but he was responsible for making the Suzuki into a quick-steering front runner.

Wayne Rainey
This guy was absolute gold dust. He was able to run away at the front of races at will, or just a s happy swapping paint with the others in race long duels. The winner of three consecutive GP titles, and well on the way to number four when he had that terrible crash at Misano in '93. His career was cut very short, and we will never know how many more titles he would have won.

Mick Dohan
Mick took over the "hard man" title from Wayne Gardner and proved himself to be just this. He won five consecutive titles and battled through terrible injury damage to himself, mainly the braking foot. In '97 he won twelve of the fifteen races as part of an era of complete dominance. He has been named as the man responsble for the ongoing dominance of Honda even after he retired. This was due to his amazing abilities to develope the bike. Once again it was only due to injury that Mick would retire.

Kenny Roberts
This guy was not called the "king" for nothing. From a background in dirt track this American brought the GP world "throttle steering", and was one of the first to realise getting your knee out and shifting your wieght gave enormous bonuses throught the corners. The winner of three consecutive GP titles, and also won on his first attempt even though he did not know the circuits. Went on to be just as successful in management with "Team Roberts", bringing us talent such as Rainey, Lawson etc.

Eddie Lawson
The winner of four GP titles, and the first to win back to back titles on different machinery. He was a consistant and fast rider throughout his career, and this was proved when in the twilight of his career he got a race victory for the then underdogs Cagiva, on a very underpowered bike.

These are a few of my favorites, but there are many others. This is not a GOAT contest, but merely an opportunity to give your favorites a good shout, and to remind people of the fantastic talent there has been.
 
I have just one, Kevin Schwantz.

The guy is a Texan first and foremost.
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He also collected 25 wins on a Suzuki. I often wonder what would have happened if he had ridden for Yamaha or Honda?

If he had ridden for 1 of the powerhouse teams I believe he could have achieved 40+ wins and 3 maybe 4 titles during his career.

If only it would have happened that way, I wouldn't have to listen to people (who will remain nameless for Tom's sake) say that he is overrated.
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Mick Doohan

5 consecutive titles, 54 wins, 95 Podiums from 117 GP starts.

Valentino Rossi

Unless you've been living under a rock for the last few years, Rossi is a living legend in the modern era, 8 titles in 125,250,500 2-smokes and 990,800 motogp....
 
I’m not rating them, they were all great but from a rider of the past who stood out for me.

The most exciting rider to watch was Kevin Schwantz. That Suzuki the year before he took the title was a real hand full, trying to throw him off at every opportunity, and often did.

In 1993 he grabbed the thing by the throat and wrung its neck (although the bike was improved). Casey’s Ducati reminds me a bit of that Suzki and even their riding styles are a bit similar.

In Kevin’s autobiography he says that in that year he decided he had to go into the corners with the knowledge that he would have to pick the bike up with his knee rather than to grab the tank and jump off.

I feel a bit sorry for him that his title was questioned with Rainey’s accident which did affect him and was one of the factors in his retirement.

I respect all the riders in your list but Kevin, most exciting, and Lawson ……… least favorite.
 
to the above list i would like to add bayliss and frankie chili. i know they were predominantly wsb riders but each stands out for me because of these 2 things.
TB was just plain exciting and his riding style before he got to moto gp was a joy to behold. it was a wrestling match from lights to flag and you could see him bending the duke into funny shapes to make it go round corners. his first ride at monza was a "sit up and take note of this" moment.

chili was just drama on 2 wheels. wherever he went, there was always some kind of drama following him and he was always entertaining, especially at his home rounds. remember his win there when he was on the 750 gsxr?

but still top of the list by miles is revvin kevin. easily....

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For sheer unbridled talent I would say Freddie Spencer. I honestly don't think anybody before or after has come close to the meteoric impact that he had in so short a time. To continue the meteor analogy, he burnt out just as quickly and his fall from grace was as spectacular as his rise. There's a great recollection I was reading this month in Motorcycle Racer by KR.SR, recounting how Freddie came around him on the outside - and he thought Fast Freddie was about to fling it based on the fact that the King was running in too hot himself, but Freddie just kept going with smoke coming off his front tyre, his rear tyre and his knee slider. in 1985 he claimed the 250 and the 500cc titles simultaneously, a similar feat had not been achieved since Ago nearly a decade before when he won the 500 and the 350 classes in the same year. I concede, it's hard to argue with 8 world titles, but as Brightside pointed out when he began this excellent thread, it's not about the GOAT - of which Rossi is pretty much the undisputed king. But even Vale himself didn't display the huge reserves of natural talent that Freddie exuded when he first arrived in GP's. Perhaps the nearest to this was Mike.

For unfulfilled potential, - Saarinen.

I would also add Wayne Rainey who in 1993 was arguably heading for a fourth consecutive title on a dog of a Yam, then something only matched by Ago and Hailwood. He overcame this wrong turn in chassis design by the Yamaha Factory (that rings a bell) by defiantly bolting the engine to a proddy frame!!!! and by sheer tenacity skill and determination rode himself back into contention - By his accident at Misano he was leading the championship and fending off a now consistent Schwantz with only two races to go.

I've got to add Sheene for his charisma alone, and for getting me (and momentarily half of Blighty during the 1970's) into bike racing in the first place.
 
My all time top "5" riders are:<u></u>

Rossi

Hailwood

Agostini

Sheene

Kenny Roberts



Only my personal fav's so dont shout .......
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(ps, superbikes: "Foggy" and JT!)
 
Definately not the GOAT, but Mamola was one of the more entertaining that I can think of. Liked him a lot.
 
YEah ya know Curve and I just had this conversation the other day and he was telling me that the one the only Alberto Puig is the best ever, BAR NONE!!!!! I think Curve is a bit out of it but hey that is what reefer does to the brain eh?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Nov 17 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>YEah ya know Curve and I just had this conversation the other day and he was telling me that the one the only Alberto Puig is the best ever, BAR NONE!!!!! I think Curve is a bit out of it but hey that is what reefer does to the brain eh?


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You've watched Reefer Madness to many times me thinks


Fav riders that raced in GP (In no paticular order, not based on achivement, just because I liked their style and attitude)

Valentino Rossi
Eddie Lawson
Loris Capirossi
Noriyuki Haga
Troy Bayliss
Randy Mamola
Mick Dohan
Mick Hailwood
Daijiro Kato
Kevin Schwantz
Rubén Xaus
Giacomo Agostini
Garry McCoy
Kenny Roberts
Daijiro Kato
Barry Sheene
Olivier Jacque
Jeremy McWilliams
Kenny Roberts Jr
Ryuichi Kiyonari
Wayne Rainey
Wayne Gardner
 
All time is not jus the last 10 or 20 years, one must count at least from the beginning of the modern WC (1949).

My list of personal all-time favorites is here on the left, but it is not a 'fair' one and riders are listed in chronological order. I do not normally include Ago, because his unreachable record is partly inflated
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Saarinen was better than Ago but cannot be included among the GOATS because his career was tragically interrupted, so... I'll leave Ago out as well for the sake of reciprocity!
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Leaving Saarinen and Ago out, a 'fair' all-time podium could be:

1. Mike Hailwood--The undisputable GOAT (imho) until Rossi manages to reach him. Mike has a record nobody will beat--winning a Tourist Trophy 10 years after retirement!
2. Valentino Rossi--After this year's 8th title, it's difficult not to put him at least here. If he wins another, well, Mike the Bike could lose the top spot!
Mike and Vale have won really everything on practically anything two wheels. From 125 to superbike, 2 or 4 strokes, European or Japanese make, name it. Simply great.
3.Mick Doohan--Impressive statistics, an incredible talent, would have an even bigger record if his career had not been cut short. Less versatile than Mike and Vale.

Of course there are many others really close to this podium, and very close to each other, all great men and riders. Too many! Special mentions for achievement and personality:
Kenny Roberts--Barry Sheene--Kevin Schwantz--Freddie Spencer
Then, a honorable mention for the forgotten, true pioneer of modern bike racing: Renzo Pasolini
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Nov 19 2008, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Arrabbiata1

WTF is up with your avatar
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Sorry, on with the conversation

+1

As for fav riders of all time, in no particular order......

Norifumi Abe
Rossi
Corser
Haga
Mamola
Xaus
McCoy
Colin Edwards
Aaron Slight
Yanagawa
The Go Show (pre party time)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Nov 18 2008, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Arrabbiata1

WTF is up with your avatar
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Apologies...I'm in a dark mood...leave it with me
 
Sorry..it's stuck...it seems my macbooks been possessed by it. I'll contact a priest and try to get it exorcised.

Ben..help
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Nov 18 2008, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry..it's stuck...it seems my macbooks been possessed by it. I'll contact a priest and try to get it exorcised.

Ben..help
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Just refresh. The avatar's been replaced, but you just have it cached in your browser.
 
Rossi. His personality, character and skills are unrivalled in the paddock. Fun to watch and entertaining to listen to. Not to mention the few titles and records he has set along the way.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (alex29 @ Nov 16 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Valentino Rossi

Unless you've been living under a rock for the last few years, Rossi is a living legend in the modern era, 8 titles in 125,250,500 2-smokes and 990,800 motogp....
Don't forget the switch from Michelin to Bridgestone too.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ Nov 18 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just refresh. The avatar's been replaced, but you just have it cached in your browser.
Hooray
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