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Ezy's thoughts

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I can't find the article on the road racing world website so here is a typed transcript from the August issue 2008. The article was in the MotoGP Notes section written by Mat Oxley and is entitled "Dorna Boss Carmelo Ezpeleta Hasn't Got a Clue"

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>.......Ezpeleta explained that the aim of the new [600cc] class is threefold "The philosophy is to have a class that prepares riders for MotoGP, a class that will be economical and a class that will be prototype," he said.

But when questioned about the definition of prototype machinery Dorna's CEO revealed an absolutely astonishing lack of knowledge about his own Championship. The Spaniard insisted that MotoGP bikes consist largely of standard motorcycle parts. And then he claimed that a prototype motorcycle can be a production bike with just one component changed from standard spec.

"There are many parts of a MotoGP bike that come from standard bikes, many parts, the clutch for example.......or the chain, the chain is exactly the same," he said. This is manifestly untrue.

MotoGP manufacturers were aghast at Ezpeleta's outburst. "We though it was the other way round, the most of the parts on a MotoGP bike are prototype," said a spokesman for on eof MotoGP's main manufacturers. "It seems we have wasted 50 million dollars developing a prototype MotoGP bike!"

Ezy goes on to make comments defending a spec engine for the new 600cc class because the remainder of the bike wouldn't be governed by spec rules.

Normally I would shrug this off as Ezy being clueless if not for one thing.

There is an 80% likelihood (probably more) that this spokesperson is from a Japanese manufacturer. Ezy is the golden boy of Japanese motorcycling world because while the Flamini group panders to Ducati, MotoGP has always pandered to the demands of the Japanese manufacturers. Most importantly, Ezy is the golden boy for Japanese manufacturers because he is ousting Aprilia and KTM and handing the new "250 class" to the Japanese factories that keep MotoGP running.

Under no circumstances is it in the best interest of the Japanese manufacturers to make Ezy look incompetent or to weaken his argument in a way that would cause the FIM to side with the Flamini Group instead of DORNA. So naturally, it seems that the spokesperson is scrambling to make Ezy look bad to cover up the revelation he has dropped on the average fan.

Unlike Oxley, who believes Ezy is suggesting that MotoGP bikes use production parts, I don't believe that's what Ezy is saying at all. As everyone knows, Ezy is simply a marketing hack who knows little about the technical details of motogp manufacturing. However, Ezy is absolutely competent to understand the pact that the MotoGP manufacturers sign onto in order to compete in the premier class.

I believe Ezy has just told the general public that in the manufacturers pact there are exclusions for certain types of technologies. The chain must be of conventional design (seems somewhat superfluous since it is superior to most drive mechanisms). But much more importantly Ezy has told everyone that MotoGP clutches must adhere to a standard design. In other words MotoGP teams are not allowed to create automatic or semi-automatic gear boxes of any kind (like the ones in F1). I'm assuming the list of prohibited innovations is rather lengthy. It would certainly explain why Ducati (after 3 years) haven't unveiled or even tested the 2 into 1 racing fork they designed to further narrow their chassis and decrease drag. It may also explain why MotoGP teams are absolutely obsessed with electronics---chances are electronic aids aren't easily policed and therefore aren't governed by any manufacturers pact.

Furthermore, I believe this article speaks volumes about the current balance of power in MotoGP. It has long been my belief and the belief of some others on here that the FIM and DORNA have an alliance. However, Ezy has stated on numerous occasions that he is staunchly opposed to the 800cc class. Because the 800cc vote came after Kato's death, it was hard to glean any alliances by it's passing. However, the remarks weakening Ezy and his arguments before the FIM shows a surprising lack of indifference as to the strengths of Ezy's position about prototype racing. It leads me to believe that the FIM and the manufacturers march in lockstep and that Ezy is frustrated with his complete lack of power.

I am firmly of the belief now that the control tire issue of 2007 was posed in a technical committee and that the measure came to a vote. Bridgestone has a majority of the manufacturers (3 vs. 2) and riders (10 vs. 9) so they both dissented. Since the FIM march in lock step with the manufacturers they also dissented, making the final vote 3-1 with DORNA being the lone pro control tire vote.

Since then, Ezy has done everything within his power to alter the competitive environment in regards to the tires. Not only because he lost a crucial vote, but also because the sport's viewership was plummeting. The latest rider safety summit is an attempt by DORNA to rally the riders behind a control tire under the guise of safety so that the technical committee vote is split 2-2 and DORNA gets to cast the deciding vote.

If my reasoning is correct and the list of rider recommendations is correct. The control tire should pass at the end of this season.

"MotoGP bikes are produced largely from standard motorcycle parts".

Thanks Ezy
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Keep leaking hints.
 
2stroke is going the way of the dinosaurs, look at all this pollution that's going on in this world.... they understand that this is not good for the sport especially a sport that the whole world follows. i would fully support the switch to 600cc racing as it will better develop the riders to become better future 800cc (hopefully 990's soon) riders. 2stroke is totally different from 4stroke as far as riding style goes. SO....... in the end, i think it is a good idea to get rid of 250cc 2stroke in favor of 600cc 4stroke EVEN though i LOVE 2 STROKE!!!!
 
It isn't that uncommon for the head of a large organization not to know the nuts and bolts of everything under them. Commenting like they do know is not uncommon either unfortunately. Some of the biggest ....-ups I have ever seen have been started this way.
 
I think this is ridiculous. 250 has never been a real problem to what so ever that cost or pollution ..... It is all about Japs do not want to spend any more of their resources into 2 strokes and could'nt stand with Aprilia, KTM and Derbi developing 250 2 strokes bikes.

600cc 4 strokes are all Japs made and as a matter of fact Duc and MV AGusta does not produce 600cc bike..
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Ezy is an ...... did he forget booting out WCM yam because they used non prototype crankcases supposedly of an R1.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>MotoGP bikes consist largely of standard motorcycle parts. And then he claimed that a prototype motorcycle can be a production bike with just one component changed from standard spec.

"There are many parts of a MotoGP bike that come from standard bikes,

time to step down you senile old git.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (V5Stroker @ Aug 20 2008, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think this is ridiculous. 250 has never been a real problem to what so ever that cost or pollution .....

Wrong, running competative 250's for a season costs unreasonbly large amount of money, forcing smaller teams out, or causing them to be completely uncompetative. The difference betweem a factory bike and a kit one in 250 is enormous
 
I didn't start this thread to debate whether or not the 250 class is worthwhile. The class doesn't lead to sales and none of the manufacturers, not even KTM and Aprilia want to continue the class. That's why it's going away. The merit of the class is unimportant.

Obviously the inline 4 600cc formula is a strong-arm tactic by the Japanese to force all other manufacturers out of the class.

The question is whether or not the new 600cc class is infringing upon the 600cc production class known as World Super Sport (run by Flamini). Ezy was trying to convince the FIM that the new 600cc class is prototypes even though the engine will be production spec. I'm amazed that Ezy's argument before the FIM was so poor; furthermore, I'm amazed the manufacturers would attempt to make Ezy look incompetent when the future of the 600cc GP class is on the line.

Such indifference as to the strength of Ezy's argument leads me to believe that the manufacturers coalition and the FIM work together. Furthermore, I'm surprised a spokesperson would rabidly defend the authenticity of the premier class.

I think Ezy was more or less required to do the bidding of the manufacturers to get the new class pushed through. His attempt was half-assed b/c he knew that the manufacturers had already cleared it with the FIM.

But the manufacturers were aghast when Ezy started making public the details of the manufacturers pact. The manufacturers scrambled and released a statement making Ezy look like a clueless buffoon.

Personally, I think Ezy made public information he was not supposed to make public.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 20 2008, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ezy is an ...... did he forget booting out WCM yam because they used non prototype crankcases supposedly of an R1.
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time to step down you senile old git.
Rog you beat me to the punch here. This was the first thing in my mind when I read the thing cause WCM was supposed to be using a hodgepodge of R1 and who knows what parts.
 

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