Ezy to lead break-away F1 championship

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Jun 9 2009, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Congrats to Lex for actually getting some members to reply to his fanciful flight of imagination...
I have a topic... rumour has it the easter bunny is set to take over santa's job... I believe the void needs to be filled by a cost cutting rabbit from the US (coloured egg and chocolate costs are getting out of control)... discuss.

If I owned Motogpmatters.com I wouldn't be wasting my time on here.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jun 9 2009, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Call me anti-American all you want but American "businessmen" have zilch to crow about. If you take your blinders off you will see that they are at the root of the problems we have right now. Don't go waxing eloquent about the free market ...blah blah blah system. It is a figment of a fools imagination. Anyone, anyone can cut costs. That position is the last bastion of desperate unimaginative fools. I know first hand about business idiots cutting costs with only a bottom line "vision" in mind. Oh god how I know. That is no vision for MotoGP. And seriously, drop the MotoGP going to .... line. It is so last year.

American executives are not the root of the problem, they are the whipping boys for the mob culture in the developed world.

Everything that we have has been gifted to us by the ignorance and blatant economic stupidity of other nations around the world. While we were utilizing relative production advantage and market economies to INCREASE cooperative efforts amongst peoples of the enlightenment, other major nations around the world were busy killing their citizens with authoritarian governments and anti-business legislation.

China is now a free-market fascist nation and India is slowly becoming the world's largest "free-market" democracy. Labor competition from these two nations is slowly depressing the wage rates in the developed world. Without a massive reduction in the consumer price index, our nations would collapse.

The ranks of our upper middle class are slowly going to disappear. Governmental taxation is ENSURING that high income earners with little net worth will vanish in the coming decades. The middle class of the future will be hundreds of millions of Indian and Chinese yuppies who make between $20,000 and $30,000 per year.

These new yuppies can't afford $10,000 sport bikes, even though their incomes will give them a standard of living roughly equal to six-figure wage earners in the West. They can't afford ridiculous $50,000 electric race bikes or hybrid-electric bikes either.

Sports bikes in the future need to achieve high performance for low investment. The displacement rules we currently use to police the sport are leading to exponential growth in R&D costs, and by the manufacturers own admissions, the new technologies don't have any application in the new global consumer market place.

No one does more business in the developing world than the United States. We have a company that imports more Chinese goods than most other nations on earth. The future of racing needs to be realigned with the changes happening in India and China.

Unlike most people who believe that DORNA need to guide the sport in a specific direction, I believe they need to give the manufacturers options. None of us know exactly what will happen in the future, I suppose there is a possibility that China and India could do us a huge favor and write new onerous anti-business legislation. In a world of ambiguity, survival depends upon diversity of ideas and technologies.

MotoGP is a technologically-homogenized disaster as is F1. Americans don't have a racing industry to brag about (far from it as a matter of fact), but American racing executives do have a very unique insight into the world of cost containment.

Imo, European executives have fallen into the NASCAR trap---they believe that cost containment means controlling technological development. It doesn't. Anyone who believes that reducing costs means reducing technological development is part of the problem----that includes many ill-informed Americans.

Consider this:

If MotoGP used the control tire to control cornering speeds, and if they imposed a top speed limit that could vary based upon the amount of run off available, they could certainly abolish displacement rules and fuel regulation and run a greater number of venues.

Without fuel and displacement rules a wide variety of machines would be eligible to compete. Teams could run ethanol-powered, 600cc turbocharged 4 strokes. They could run clean 2 stroke hybrids. They could run algal-oil rotaries with shaft drive. The could run electric bikes. They could run a nuclear bike if they were so inclined.

Can anyone say such a series would not develop meaningful technology? Manufacturer interest in developing small engine technology and alternative fuels would be enormous. The advertising for little known technologies would be huge beneficial.

I know you love GP the way it is now, but it's not an entertaining business that provides societal benefit, GP is becoming an increasingly petty country club.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jun 10 2009, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>From the sound of it you really don't disagree with me that much. You have a dark outlook and that is unfortunate but common in these types of downswings. This is simply not the forum for discussing the merits of one countries ethics or prospects although I'd be glad to burn up a 24 sometime doing so in person. No one is innocent.

I don't think we have much disagreement either, but I'm not being overly pessimistic about severely depressed wages in the Western world if China/India continue on their current trajectory.

You're right when you say that 1 generation is not enough time to pull someone off of a farm and teach them to be a productive blue collar or white collar worker. Unfortunately, that generation has passed. China began it's reforms in 1978 and India began in 1991. This is the beginning of Gen 2. Gen 2 are supposed to evolve into hundreds of millions of yuppies who make 20,000 to 30,000 per year.

CANADA doesn't have to worry b/c Canada actually embraces using natural resources. In the US, our huge reserves of black gold are the great satan of the 21st century.

These times are particularly alarming ONLY because we are handing the global economy to the East on a silver platter. Every 5 years China announces new economic initiatives and then formulates a 5 year plan. For the last decade they've been hoarding natural resources. During the same period we stopped drilling and refining. China's newest 5 year plan is supposed to center around hoarding intellectual property. Just days ago we delivered Hummer to them on a silver platter. Don't forget we already built a 1 trillion dollar communications infrastructure for the East during the dot com boom. They purchased that for pennies on the dollar as they did with Hummer.

China and India are not a threat, but a great opportunity for mutually beneficial cooperation. However, if we continue to embrace the socio-economic status quo (government intervention) we will end up miserable.

It may seem like a stretch, but GP will go the way of the dodo if it continues down its current path. The global upper class is going to shrink (the uber elites will grow). International racing has been built around the idea that Western companies will continue to throw massive amounts of money at international advertising. They may, but they will be marketing to a new consumer and they are going to demand access to the Chinese and Indian markets.

The Chinese GP was recently canceled. There are no Chinese riders and there are no Chinese manufacturers. The same goes for India. Both of them have burgeoning manufacturers and populations with growing disposable income. They don't participate because the cost of participation is too high.

I want bikes to be faster too, but all 4 parties in MotoGP don't want them to be faster. Imagine the sport has no restrictions; the major manufacturers would build bikes that make 300mph on the straights and pull 3 or 4 g's in the turns. They would kill people. Furthermore, they would only be safe at maybe 1 or 2 venues on the current calendar.

The latest switch to the 800s has caused some of the major manufacturers to question their participation in the sport. It's becoming increasingly obvious that no one knows what to do. They keep .....-footing around the problem while hoping for an economic rebound. They are like gamblers who are scraping together a few quarters for the slots. They're praying for a winner so they can get on a roll and go back to the high stakes.

Economic rebound won't save someone who's stuck playing a rigged game.

Ezy denies links to FOTA series.

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Crash net has a lot of fun theories on what's going on behind the scenes in F1. They have good historical info about Ezy's relationship with Bernie as well.

Ezy denies links to FOTA series.

LINK

Crash net has a lot of fun theories on what's going on behind the scenes in F1. They have good historical info about Ezy's relationship with Bernie as well.