This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Edwards blasts 'piece of ....' bike, wants prototype.

#22

Joined Oct 2008
6K Posts | 5K+
In Cider
Gotta love CEII, shooting from the hip as always. Looks like he'll be on a ART at Indy, but I thought he views on leasing year old prototypes valid, even if realistically it wont happen due to finance. Maybe when Honda launch their 'production prototype' racer things will get better. He also says what I suspected will happen if CRT stays off the pace; that riders who can't win are going to leave the sport.



http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/182334/1/edwards_blasts_piece_of_sht_bike_aprilia_at_indy.html



Colin Edwards gave a typically colourful explanation of his 2012 MotoGP struggles when he met with the media on the eve of his home US MotoGP at Laguna Seca on Thursday.



The former double World [color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial][color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial]Superbike[/font][/font][/color][/color] champion and twelve-time MotoGP podium finisher was the most high-profile [color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial][color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial]rider[/font][/font][/color][/color] to sign-up for the new CRT privateer category.



But the Texan made clear he expected much more from the Suter-BMW project, with which he has scored points just twice so far this year.



Asked about his 'really tough' season, Edwards replied: “Yeah. My bike is a piece of sht. That'd be a better way to say it!



“It's been tough. Obviously some of the things we've been promised... we had our ... smacked and our balls tickled and it just hasn't come to fruition.



“Some of the things we were promise just haven't happened. I'm not only trying to race the bike I'm doing 100% of the development. We don't have anybody there...



“You have that big window of electronics and everything and you need to get it down to a small point, then fine tune it. We're not even there yet and it's halfway through the year.”



Unsurprisingly, given his comments, a mid-season bike change is expected by the Forward [color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial][color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial]Racing [/font][color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial]team[/font][/color][/font][/color][/color].



Edwards tested the Gresini FTR-[color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial][color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial]Honda[/font][/font][/color][/color] and the Avintia FTR-Kawasaki after the recent [color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial][color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial]Mugello[/font][/font][/color][/color] round, but revealed a switch to the class-leading Aprilia is the most likely choice.



“I've heard rumours, we'll be on an Aprilia at Indianapolis,” he said. “Which is still not going to able to compete with the [prototype] guys but at least it's the best CRT bike out there. If that happens it's a step forward.”

Reflecting on the CRT concept, brought in to boost dwindling MotoGP grid numbers, Edwards explained that changes need to be made to close the [color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial][color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial]performance[/font][/font][/color][/color] gap to the Hondas, Yamahas and Ducatis.



“It's just kind of a ........ rule. The CRT thing. How do you expect to fly around the world and compete when you can't win?” he said. “It's been hard this year, hard to stay motivated to maybe get twelfth or tenth. Being the first CRT is all we can shoot for.



“The formula just isn't right yet. The CRT thing I think is a good idea. Or a one-brand bike. Whatever that rule is. But when you still have a bunch of prototypes out on track. It's more dangerous than anything. I feel like I'm looking over my shoulder all the time trying not to get in people's way.



“It needs to be rethought and something done so we can all compete and have a chance of victory.”



A rev limit and control [color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial][color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial]ECU[/font][/font][/color][/color] are among the changes on the MotoGP horizon, which could help reduce the gap between the manufacturer machines and CRTs, but Edwards had an alternative solution to providing a full grid of competitive machines



“You're taking pretty much all the development and millions of dollars that have been spent and taking a step back,” he said of the rev limit and ECU. “For me it's easy. All the bikes the prototype guys are [color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial][color=blue !important][font=verdana, arial]riding[/font][/font][/color][/color] this year, make them available as satellite bikes next year – then you have 24 bikes.”
 
Some pitfalls of the CRT-rule you could see coming miles away: thinly disguised factory efforts (Aprilia, or what Honda seems to be threatening to do) and convergence towards a single make cup series (Aprilia, or what Honda seems to be threatening to do).
 
Rumours are Pramac nor Cardion will be on Ducati's next year, and that Ducati will run 4 works bikes...anyone else heard this?
 
Rumours are Pramac nor Cardion will be on Ducati's next year, and that Ducati will run 4 works bikes...anyone else heard this?



Oh yeah, that reminds me, another pitfall we could see miles: if the fastest CRT's equal or outperform sattelite proto's, what's keeping the sattelite teams from switching to a CRT-bikes? How's that going to help keeping up grid numbers?
 
He makes a great point about the factories sending their old machines to the other teams! I think that's an ideal solution.



Tell me why that's a bad idea??
 
Its great in principal Levi but firstly like BM said, there is a possibly technology issue but the main thing is the COST. Ither the bikes are genuinely getting that expensive or factories are getting to greedy with their lease prices. ASPAR can run two CRT's for less than they were leasing a crappy GP11. Cardion ran a year old bike last yr and Karel did pretty well with it, but even then I don't think that was cheap.



Pramac are down to 1, possibly no prototypes, Gresini down to 1. All because they couldnt afford to lease factory bikes
 
Clearly though the CRT idea is a failure, for several reasons. I can't see this idea having any longevity unless things improve massively in 2013. They'll always find washouts from M2 etc who'll be happy to ride around in GP 4 seconds a lap slower but they'll be destroying the credibility of the concept weekend after weekend.



Look at the current crop of CRT riders! Absent RdP and Edwards and you have a crew of guys who were arguably never going to find a quality ride or see the pointy end of the peloton.



It's an unmitigated disaster at this point. With more defections to SBK looming, I see this experiment doing more damage than good.
 
Rumours are Pramac nor Cardion will be on Ducati's next year, and that Ducati will run 4 works bikes...anyone else heard this?



Yes I heard this, Marc VDS team to take the satellite Ducatis apparently. Pramac are struggling for money
 
we had our ... smacked and our balls tickled and it just hasn't come to fruition.







You gotta love Edwards. You know the powers just gringe when he has a mic in his hands, but he honestly doesnt give a .... what he says, or when he says it.
 
It'll be interesting to see how competitive Honda's "production racer" is. I imagine it'll blow the doors off the CRT's. Now if only Yamaha will make something similar and Suzuki come back we've got a series on our hands....
 
Imagine if some others said the same thing.



One could only assume that they would be ungrateful whining asshats
<
 
Hey Colin! Without the CRT's, you would have been out of MotoGP this year.



Trav.... he aint "in" MotoGP - he's merely traveling with the band. He's like the girlfriend who plays tambourine in the band.

Yeah, he's a good guy and a straight shooter - but he hasn't had results or he'd still be on a proto. That, and the economy blows.
 

Recent Discussions