Boppers, Squealers, etc.

DOM JOLY Fanboy.????
""Stoner has fast trip

I was quite excited to see the headline "Stoner sets fastest lap in final MotoGP test". I was a little disappointed when I discovered that it was former world champion Casey Stoner and not some skater dude who'd just had a go and got lucky.""

OK.OK .it's a disease many ask the same Q.

obsessive compulsive behavior.why Aussie fans are so obsessed for their sports?

i have been telling facts on this forum but receiving severe abuse on this forum. sport is a sport and i feel this is a general trend in Australia not to accept facts as they are obsessed with the sports. This is insanity as the scientific fact is that Casey is a chucker (last moment chuck) and the visual facts watched by world are arrogance and bad behavior of Aussies.
what do you think, this obsession is going to bring them down to earth or not?

Easy
Rossi has Boppers
Aussies/Casey Has Chuckers
Lorenzo fans on Siesta
Spies Fans NKOTB
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or

How to Become a Obsessive Fan

Having a 'undying loyalty' can sums up people who are completely obsess with celebrities. While some may have love for a celebrities, others can go beyond their love and become crazy
Difficulty: Moderately Easy
Instructions

How to Become a Obsessive Fan
1.
Step 1

Dedicated half of your time worshiping your celebrity. At least 80 percent of your life should be expressing complete devotion to the person you are obsessing over while the other 20 percent can be geared towards other hobbies, work, school, other people, etc. Read the newspapers, magazines and other media sources on your affection. Remember you need to know the update of your favorite celebrity every single day.
2.
Step 2

Build your own website or blog. The Internet is a great way to show your appreciation by uploading pictures, videos, writing articles and have your every own forum to share your love with other crazy fans that feel the same way.
3.
Step 3

Always be on the defensive with 'haters'. Not everyone is going to love your celebrity but this is something you obviously don't like so group these people as haters, that are jealous and set it in your mind that their opinions are always wrong. You must stand up for the celebrity you love because if you don't, who will?
4.
Step 4

If your celebrity is romantically linked to someone (half of the time, it is another celeb), automatically dislike them. You'd dreamed of being the future husband or wife of your celebrity far too long and no one is going to completely shatter your dreams. Find things about their partner you don't like and hope the day will come for the two to breakup.
5.
Step 5

Become 'personal' with your celebrity. Instead of calling them by their name, refer to them as 'your man', 'your woman', or baby. Calling them such names is one step away of the celebrity one day becoming your own, (in your mind).

Mind if i repeat myself..................



Rossiboppers are a breed apart.

I know we,ve had the bopper thread, but a few comments have been mulling around in my head for a while. BL talked about Rossi as "our boy". Kinda personal isn,t it? What makes the difference between the majority of Rossi fans and fans of other riders is the messiah effect or perhaps the gathering of "fair weather" fans. Its much the same as support of football teams. The top team seems to have the most supporters. Why? Well its the shortcut to fan happiness isn,t it. Sorta makes sense, doesn,t it? You want to enjoy your sport, so why not back the best and feel good more often as they will usually win. A good strategy? Maybe? A sign of real character? Not really. Most of us motogp fans support a rider from our country and maybe somebody else if you have no countryman competing.I,ve been a fan of Vermeulin , but when he fails to make an impact on a race (mostly)I support the nearest thing, Casey Stoner. Next year I don,t have a choice. Looks like its only Casey. In the 90,s following Doohan was rewarding as he usually won, even though the races were often boring. A bit like the situation for Rossi fans 2001-05 (if not earlier). Italians that back Rossi- I have no issues with them; but non-Italian Rossi fans I treat with a lot of suspicion. And a hell of a lot of them are Brits. Even when Toseland was racing, he got little support from most Brits. He wasn,t giving them much joy was he?
The next thing to consider is that if you have chosen somebody because they usually win and satisfy the fans desire for good feelings, you will feel REALLY aggrieved if something or somebody stands in the way. Look what Hayden did in 2006. He didn,t win on merit, just too much bad luck befell Rossi and it just wasn,t right. Then 2007! Bloody Stoner had no talent; it was that ridiculously fast Ducati that had an unfair advantage and its electronic package enabled the rider to strap in and just go for the ride. No skill really, just a mysterious melding of bike and individual.Stoner had the jigsaw pieces that perfectly matched the Ducatis pieces. Again, Stoner was nothing special, just the most extraordinary symbiosis. But Rossi's titles in 2008 and 2009 were pure rider talent; Lorenzo and Stoner are just not in the same league as the chosen one. "Chosen one". Geddit. The one the emotially insecure choose to maximise their chances of post race orgasm! So when anybody challenges any aspect or Rossis dominance it is a serious and immediate threat to the Rossiboppers world. It must be challenged with fervour, with vigour and usually with a total lack of logic, but with a huge dose of righteous indignation. My boy is my path to pleasurable viewing, and I will not let you take it away from me.You have all seen the signs, the posts. Talpa is the latest in a long line of the faithful, but not the first. Others that spring to mind are Babelfish, Roger (why chopperman?), BL etc etc. So thats the difference. All fans are defensive about their rider, but many Rossi fans are not only defending their rider, they are defending their whole purpose of being a motogp fan! That is the difference.
A great tradition in Australia is supporting the underdog. If I support Stoner, that is patently not the case. But I have huge respect for the fans here that stoically support their man, even though they are met with disappointment week after week. Thats what I call a real test of character; being faithful despite all the repeated disappointments. Hayden and Melandri, and maybe even Canepa fans deserve a whole lotta respect in my book. Brits that have ignored Toseland and back Rossi, deserve ridicule. What happened to that Churchillian, fight them in the trenches spirit? Seems that it is long gone....................
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Mar 29 2010, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I've seen some ignorant fool use the term 'Stoner Bopper' on this forum  I DO NOT LIKE IT!

The term 'Bopper' is EXCLUSIVELY reserved for Rossi fans.  Rossi and Rossi alone commands the Cult of Personality to which True Boppers respond so strongly and irrationally.  Besides, "Rossibopper" just sounds right!  

If you wish to refer to irrational fans of other riders, I suggest you come up with something more original!  

Here are some admittedly weak attempts.  Stoner Stooge, Lorenzo Loony, Spies Dweebs? (I kinda like that one.)  

PLEASE CONTRIBUTE your creative collectives in the space below!  

Treads regarding any of the two riders Rossi/Stoner are already flooded by the anti booper comments. In other words, I'm not so interested in what to call devoted fans of other riders. Those of interest here on this forum in particular are those that hate Rossi fans, such as you. What should we call YOU?
Anti boops?










 

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Mar 29 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Mind if i repeat myself..................
Yes we do mind and I still get offended by the suggestion that only Italians should be fan's of Rossi.
First of all that whole consept is extremely nationalistic. Everyone here should react against that kind.
As a sidenote this the only proof we need to see that you can't possibly be a true fan of the sport. To me the sport are far to big to be bound by national booperism like that. That's before we go into your obsession of Rossi fans that seems to be more important to some of you that your own rider. Nationalism and hating fans, what kind of love to the sport is that?

Secondly I don't get you. You talk at length about fair weather fan's then you in detail describe how you became one yourself by going over to Stoner! Jeeez.

Third: How do we turn from fair weather to (according to you) fanatic idiots that argue without logic and sense. Where's the logic in that? How do we go from mildly interested to fanatics?
The ..... thing I can understand if your true and honest impression of what we've written about stoner is what you type here. On the other hand you have a few thousand posts to catch up with because you've been reading with some very bad glasses.

Finally, what is it with you Rossi fan haters. Sure it's a sore thing to see your rider beaten time and again but going from there to what you've become must have been a painful process. Saddest thing is that you fall for the same error you strongly accuse us of doing: Accusations without logic and sense. You are obviously willing to use any means to make us look bad, now including extreme nationalism. Congratulations

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 29 2010, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes we do mind and I still get offended by the suggestion that only Italians should be fan's of Rossi.
First of all that whole consept is extremely nationalistic. Everyone here should react against that kind.
As a sidenote this the only proof we need to see that you can't possibly be a true fan of the sport. To me the sport are far to big to be bound by national booperism like that. That's before we go into your obsession of Rossi fans that seems to be more important to some of you that your own rider. Nationalism and hating fans, what kind of love to the sport is that?

Secondly I don't get you. You talk at length about fair weather fan's then you in detail describe how you became one yourself by going over to Stoner! Jeeez.

Third: How do we turn from fair weather to (according to you) fanatic idiots that argue without logic and sense. Where's the logic in that? How do we go from mildly interested to fanatics?
The ..... thing I can understand if your true and honest impression of what we've written about stoner is what you type here. On the other hand you have a few thousand posts to catch up with because you've been reading with some very bad glasses.

Finally, what is it with you Rossi fan haters. Sure it's a sore thing to see your rider beaten time and again but going from there to what you've become must have been a painful process. Saddest thing is that you fall for the same error you strongly accuse us of doing: Accusations without logic and sense. You are obviously willing to use any means to make us look bad, now including extreme nationalism. Congratulations

I don't go for the whole bopper/booper thing and I don't think you qualify as a rossibopper even by the definition of others. I agree that philosophically it is rather moot as to whether patriotism or wanting to be on the winning side is the nobler motive, with neither seeming to be operative in your case anyway.

Generally the racing speaks for itself, as it has spoken very loudly for valentino over his entire career and in particular for the last 2 years. We are obviously all biased here on a fan forum, fan being an abbreviation for fanatic after all, but what I at least and perhaps other fans of riders who are not valentino find annoying and even unfair is not the contention that rossi is better, with which it is hard to take issue, but rather the apparent need of some to demonise his opponents. Stoner may not be particularly likeable; I personally rather like that he does not appear to try to be so, but will accept that he perhaps has some duty to promote the sport more than he does. However I don't think he deserves to have his courage questioned (to quote nicky hayden "whatever they are paying casey, it's not enough"), or the endless uninformed and mostly frankly scientifically ludicrous speculation about his physical and mental health, and claims (often gleeful) that he has been broken by rossi etc. If all previous riders who have challenged rossi had been revered perhaps the disregard for stoner could be ascribed to factors intrinsic to him, but it would seem rather too coincidental that most have been discovered to be similarly of bad character .

Arguably rossi not being a completely invincible superhero as some would seem to have a need to see him makes his achievements greater rather than lesser, and the fact that when perhaps middle aged as a racer after a couple of years of (slight by most standards) vincibility of whatever aetiology he came back to triumph over a talented bunch of young chargers should be the story rather than denigrating the riders who beat him in those years.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 29 2010, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes we do mind and I still get offended by the suggestion that only Italians should be fan's of Rossi.
First of all that whole consept is extremely nationalistic. Everyone here should react against that kind.
As a sidenote this the only proof we need to see that you can't possibly be a true fan of the sport. To me the sport are far to big to be bound by national booperism like that. That's before we go into your obsession of Rossi fans that seems to be more important to some of you that your own rider. Nationalism and hating fans, what kind of love to the sport is that?

Secondly I don't get you. You talk at length about fair weather fan's then you in detail describe how you became one yourself by going over to Stoner! Jeeez.

Third: How do we turn from fair weather to (according to you) fanatic idiots that argue without logic and sense. Where's the logic in that? How do we go from mildly interested to fanatics?
The ..... thing I can understand if your true and honest impression of what we've written about stoner is what you type here. On the other hand you have a few thousand posts to catch up with because you've been reading with some very bad glasses.

Finally, what is it with you Rossi fan haters. Sure it's a sore thing to see your rider beaten time and again but going from there to what you've become must have been a painful process. Saddest thing is that you fall for the same error you strongly accuse us of doing: Accusations without logic and sense. You are obviously willing to use any means to make us look bad, now including extreme nationalism. Congratulations

Gee you misinterpret just about everything Babel

Respect to ALL riders!! Does that make me a collective bopper?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Otis Driftwood @ Mar 29 2010, 07:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Respect to ALL riders!! Does that make me a collective bopper?

i'm with Otis!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Mar 29 2010, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'm with Otis!

You`ve always been in the `dark box` with me brother.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 29 2010, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes we do mind and I still get offended by the suggestion that only Italians should be fan's of Rossi.
First of all that whole consept is extremely nationalistic. Everyone here should react against that kind.
As a sidenote this the only proof we need to see that you can't possibly be a true fan of the sport. To me the sport are far to big to be bound by national booperism like that. That's before we go into your obsession of Rossi fans that seems to be more important to some of you that your own rider. Nationalism and hating fans, what kind of love to the sport is that?

Secondly I don't get you. You talk at length about fair weather fan's then you in detail describe how you became one yourself by going over to Stoner! Jeeez.

Third: How do we turn from fair weather to (according to you) fanatic idiots that argue without logic and sense. Where's the logic in that? How do we go from mildly interested to fanatics?
The ..... thing I can understand if your true and honest impression of what we've written about stoner is what you type here. On the other hand you have a few thousand posts to catch up with because you've been reading with some very bad glasses.

Finally, what is it with you Rossi fan haters. Sure it's a sore thing to see your rider beaten time and again but going from there to what you've become must have been a painful process. Saddest thing is that you fall for the same error you strongly accuse us of doing: Accusations without logic and sense. You are obviously willing to use any means to make us look bad, now including extreme nationalism. Congratulations


Jeez, babel , you have the memory of a mountain mollusc! How soon you forget........

This thread reminded me of my own many months ago. I was too lazy to rewrite so I copied it, hence the "repeating myself" message. You argued vigorously then, no need to do it again. If you read carefully, you will see I make no criticism of Rossi, only his bopper fans

Geonard is correct; Rossiboppers are a breed apart , and are the only TRUE boppers!

Interestingly, times have changed. Toseland is no longer there, so who do the Brits support now?
I suggest either

a) everybody
Bradley Smith
c) Alex Espargaro
d) watch world superbikes instead- many supertalented Brits , virtually no Aussies now :

Times have changed........apart from Stoner, the aussies are on the way out. Should we bop along with the best and become rossiboppers too

ps; Any fan of Douglas Adams is ok, so don,t fret.

I think this thread was started with a light hearted tone for some much needed creative humor.

Some just can't have fun I guess.


FAIL

I think the whole BOPPER thing started years ago with John Hopkins....henceforth "HopperBopper"

I only know 2 terms,

the Winners are the Winners and the losers are the LOOSERS.

and Rossi is a WINNER.

that's when all the Rossi's fans become bopers.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Mar 30 2010, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jeez, babel , you have the memory of a mountain mollusc! How soon you forget........

This thread reminded me of my own many months ago. I was too lazy to rewrite so I copied it, hence the "repeating myself" message. You argued vigorously then, no need to do it again. If you read carefully, you will see I make no criticism of Rossi, only his bopper fans

You got your ... handed last time by a lot of people and you serve the same .... again, true copy paste, and expect the rest of us to shut up and let YOU go on with your rant without anyone speaking up against your absolutely hilarious nationalism? Priceless

Maybe next time you could consider linking to the post, but by copying it you make it part of the current discussion and as such treated and commented as part of this discussion.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 31 2010, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You got your ... handed last time by a lot of people and you serve the same .... again, true copy paste, and expect the rest of us to shut up and let YOU go on with your rant without anyone speaking up against your absolutely hilarious nationalism? Priceless

Maybe next time you could consider linking to the post, but by copying it you make it part of the current discussion and as such treated and commented as part of this discussion.

I don't think I've seen any Bopper misinterpret "anything" as wrong as you do Babble. Are you trying to outdo Rog. even Every post has a complete delusion as its basis

I'd go as far as voting you "Bopper of the Century" over Rog. ........ Though because of his past Rog. still hold the title of "The Millenium Bopper"

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossiofsky @ Mar 31 2010, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I only know 2 terms,

the Winners are the Winners and the losers are the LOOSERS.

and Rossi is a WINNER.

that's when all the Rossi's fans become bopers.
You should read your posts before you post.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Mar 31 2010, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You should read your posts before you post.

Boppers, Squealers, all of these terms are superfluous. There are fans and there are fanbois. Both are passionate, but the difference is that fans are amenable to reason. They can see the merits in others, while still believing that their favorite is best. Fanbois, on the other hand, simply screech as loud as they can to deafen any information which doesn't match their world view.

I try to avoid fanbois as much as possible, they are a complete waste of my valuable time (and my valuable oxygen).