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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ May 31 2009, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/spe...ro-road-racing/

Now if only they would listen to the other complaints fans have raised.
And if we keep boycotting,they will have no choice but to listen.This change in TV scheduling is in direct response to the fan telling DMG to go .... itself. Its working and we need to keep it up till we have a racing series that is more like WSBK than Canadian Superbike.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jun 1 2009, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And if we keep boycotting,they will have no choice but to listen.This change in TV scheduling is in direct response to the fan telling DMG to go .... itself. Its working and we need to keep it up till we have a racing series that is more like WSBK than Canadian Superbike.
Right. I suggest we send letters via e mail constantly about wanting our riders be who they are and not the robots of nascar. Plus that rolling start .... has to go. The rules for Wsbk make for some good racing and most of the american riders want to get the hell out of the AMA now.
 
Good! And while they are at it..... Drop the ........ ....... american commentary announcers they use for WSBK & Motogp on the USA rounds. When the hell did Kiyo joined Stiggy motorsport??? Also ralphy boy, its keeeyo, NOT khiyo as you called it.







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[quote name='evo9' date='Jun 1 2009, 03:20 PM' post='192101']
Good! And while they are at it..... Drop the ........ ....... american commentary announcers they use for WSBK & Motogp on the USA rounds. When the hell did Kiyo joined Stiggy motorsport??? Also ralphy boy, its keeeyo, NOT khiyo as you called it.

And dont forget Jaycub Smerz

In all fairness,this dimwit on Eurosport 2 gave Jamie Hacking a gay French name, Jean Marie Hacking






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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jun 1 2009, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>...we need to keep it up till we have a racing series that is more like WSBK than Canadian Superbike.
Hey, we've only 33.5 million people spread out over 34 million square miles AND a five month racing season AT BEST... man, we do what we can!
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Seriously, I hope the AMA/DMG et al can pull their .... together... The US has a rich history of motorcycle road racing and recent history and present has been a shame.
 
Finally!!! That 2 week delay was ........ ihavent watched one single round of AMA racing this year not only because of that but many other problems. the ad thing is that it is the riders who are suffering more than any one. After my 2 recent run ins with Neil Hodgsons and Ben Bostrom I realized they are very very cool guys and deserve the support of the american fans. so now that the races will be televised same day again i will watch. Not because of Dmg but because of the Racers ( who are innocent in all this ........)
 
You guys are forgetting that live coverage and same day coverage was yanked because the manufacturers couldn't continue paying exorbitant ad fees.

Motorcycling coverage is directly related to the manufacturers marketing budgets. Edmondson said a long time ago that live coverage was gone no matter what happened this season.

I think the ratings were dismal, and rather than continue AMA Primetime under it's current arrangement, SpeedTV decided to ditch the studio and simply run same day coverage.

I'm sure SpeedTV are subsidizing the coverage since Edmondson went out of his way to thank them. They probably realized ad revenues are crap this year anyway so they should run same day coverage and make the fans happy.

Maybe the AMA threw in the purse money that they would have paid at Miller?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Jun 1 2009, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Right. I suggest we send letters via e mail constantly about wanting our riders be who they are and not the robots of nascar. Plus that rolling start .... has to go. The rules for Wsbk make for some good racing and most of the american riders want to get the hell out of the AMA now.

How are WSBK rules tha magic bullet that will make the racing close and make the series something other than a dealer show?

Hopefully the same day coverage will be of the same quality as in years past. One thing I loved about AMA coverage was how the picture was clear and the sound great. The moto gp and wsbk feeds never compared in video quality on speed. Will speed still be able to achieve this quality without the factories paying?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 1 2009, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You guys are forgetting that live coverage and same day coverage was yanked because the manufacturers couldn't continue paying exorbitant ad fees.

Motorcycling coverage is directly related to the manufacturers marketing budgets. Edmondson said a long time ago that live coverage was gone no matter what happened this season.

I think the ratings were dismal, and rather than continue AMA Primetime under it's current arrangement, SpeedTV decided to ditch the studio and simply run same day coverage.

I'm sure SpeedTV are subsidizing the coverage since Edmondson went out of his way to thank them. They probably realized ad revenues are crap this year anyway so they should run same day coverage and make the fans happy.

Maybe the AMA threw in the purse money that they would have paid at Miller?

Good points Lex. That said, my thread title is unfair to the organization.

However, they still need to "pull their heads out" when it comes to the attitude towards safety and the 'cause-we-said-so nascar touches.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>There was wide speculation at Miller last weekend that the Suzuki, Kawasaki and Honda factory and or factory-supported teams will be exiting the current AMA/DMG roadrace series after this season concludes.
As per 'Soup. How long until the MIC series is formed, then?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jun 2 2009, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As per 'Soup. How long until the MIC series is formed, then?


Think we could expect an announcement within a month following the final round? What's the over/under on that?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cankles @ Jun 3 2009, 06:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Think we could expect an announcement within a month following the final round? What's the over/under on that?
I'll take the under.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Jun 2 2009, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Happy to see this finally happen, their "experiment" was completely asinine.

Boots, did you read the pace-BIKES article? Haha, the experiment continues.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 1 2009, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You guys are forgetting that live coverage and same day coverage was yanked because the manufacturers couldn't continue paying exorbitant ad fees.

Rewriting history?

Lex, did you forget the soured relationship that DMG created with manufactures? I think they put the AMA pro primetime show on Saturday night because 1) the manufactures were alienated by DMG and 2) SpeedTV played along not wanting to air the coverage for less money. Both backfired, and now SpeedTV is crawling back to show the racing when people actually want to watch it. However, I doubt SpeedTV was getting much better revenue during the Sunday spots on AMA weekends since they were playing reruns of Bullrun and ..... The truth is they will get more views if they show the racing on Sunday, but they were holding out, thinking the manufactures would cave (since they also need to advertise for their product).

DMG is the .... up here. Now that they couldn't compromise and make the manufactures happy, SpeedTV continuing to lose money, they decided to cut their losses and show the races on Sunday. People will tune in and at very least they can charge other advertisers increased rate as soon as they prove increased ratings.

This actually may bring the manufactures back into the mix for SpeedTV. Not for the sake of DMG but rather for the sake of getting their message out to their target audience.
 
They stopped showing the Japanese GP live on TV few years back, saying the bad ratings didn't justify the costs. Now with even less coverage than before, the national championships are in the crappers, no money to pay for broadcasting and yet no broadcasting to bring in new viewers. It's sad when racefans have to resort to online social networks and youtube just to get race updates.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 3 2009, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rewriting history?

Lex, did you forget the soured relationship that DMG created with manufactures? I think they put the AMA pro primetime show on Saturday night because 1) the manufactures were alienated by DMG and 2) SpeedTV played along not wanting to air the coverage for less money. Both backfired, and now SpeedTV is crawling back to show the racing when people actually want to watch it. However, I doubt SpeedTV was getting much better revenue during the Sunday spots on AMA weekends since they were playing reruns of Bullrun and ..... The truth is they will get more views if they show the racing on Sunday, but they were holding out, thinking the manufactures would cave (since they also need to advertise for their product).

DMG is the .... up here. Now that they couldn't compromise and make the manufactures happy, SpeedTV continuing to lose money, they decided to cut their losses and show the races on Sunday. People will tune in and at very least they can charge other advertisers increased rate as soon as they prove increased ratings.

This actually may bring the manufactures back into the mix for SpeedTV. Not for the sake of DMG but rather for the sake of getting their message out to their target audience.

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If soured relationships caused AMA to lose live/same-day coverage, then repaired relations have brought it back. No relationships have been repaired. Neither the departure of same-day coverage or it's return are related to DMG. You are simply railing against the AMA because you don't like Edmondson.

I definitely agree with you, though, that Speed are crawling back to their old format.

However, I highly doubt that Speed assumed the manufacturers would continue paying top dollar for a Saturday night slot that featured 2-week-old races. It's much more likely that Speed looked at DMG's offer then simply scheduled Pro Primetime according to bureaucratic company policy.

The delay was always inevitable for 2009 so DMG tried to dress up delayed coverage by showing the entire race in destination format. When Speed realized what their stupid company policy had caused (increased expenses and hugely decreased revenues) they pulled their heads out and granted late-night same-day coverage to the AMA. Edmondson is overjoyed because it protects the new major sponsors who need viewership for their ads (Progressive, GEICO, National Guard, etc.) he couldn't care less about the destination format b/c it was simply an attempt to dress up delayed coverage.

Many of the changes to the AMA have little to do with NASCAR or ego. Most are crafted in response to serious problems within the AMA.

The reduction in tuning equipment is designed to cut costs. Rolling starts are designed to end first corner pile-ups that injure high profile riders. The safety car was designed to stop red-flag shenanigans and keep races moving.

Edmondson has only made one huge mistake----the new Buell pace bike. Really, really, dumb. What happens if the pace bike goes down? DMG must really be hurting for money if they are selling the pace-vehicle to Buell. Maybe the pace-bike and the schedule change are related?
 
Oh yea they really got their heads out. Now instead of watching the ......... yammer on about the races 2 wks late we get to watch at PRIME TIME SAMEDAY 1:00 in the morning(NEXT DAY). An improvement but a poor one. Thanks ama/dmg/nascar/speedtv.
Now all you have to do is not go to Cyclesnews till Monday night.

Great improvement you maroons.
 

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