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800cc Ducati Triple in 2010 Moto GP

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According to M. Oxley (In RRW) Ducati is planning to field an 800cc Triple in Moto GP
in 2010. The engine was developed by Ferrari F1 and is to be supplied by
Oral Engineering. I haven't seen any confirmation of this elsewheres.
Anybody?
 
hmm wonder if this is still going to happen at valencia.?
maybe a chance to use it as a Ducati test bed.?



A NEW PRIVATEER team is to enter the MotoGP World Championship at the end of the season - FB Racing Team will make its debut in the last race of 2009 at Valencia on 8 November.

The team have developed a new machine designed by Oral Engineering Group led by Mauro Forghieri, former technical director of the racing division of Ferrari, and Franco Antoniazzi. The team plan to race in Valencia this year, with a view to competing for a full season in 2010.

It's believed the team are developing a prototype three-cylinder engine that will benefit from allowing greater cornering speeds than outright horsepower. It's reported the motor is bang up-to-date, with pneumatic distribution valves, electronic throttle actuation and variable intakes.

The team are remaining tight-lipped about exactly who thay'll be running in the new squad; a statement below hints the rider may be Italian:

"The premier class of two-wheelers - the slogan on the site of the new team - is getting ready to pick up a new, exciting challenge: to enter one of the best manufacturers and the best pilots of a new character, the result of an entrepreneurial spirit and an all-Italian passion."

We'll let you know more as soon as we get it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Oct 28 2009, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>According to M. Oxley (In RRW) Ducati is planning to field an 800cc Triple in Moto GP
in 2010. The engine was developed by Ferrari F1 and is to be supplied by
Oral Engineering. I haven't seen any confirmation of this elsewheres.
Anybody?

I've got a really hard time believing that Ducati is going to intro a new engine package. The issues Ducati riders face don't seem to be related to power or reliability. The suspension and rear swingarm appear to be the predominant issues. Power delivery has also been a problem but that's something that can be easily addressed in the off season with an electronics upgrade. Who know's, I just don't think a new powerplant is in the works for Ducati.
 
I do see this as a logical approach to getting more horse power since the Desmo valves might be at the end of their run. Ducati is no longer the fastest bike and the electronics have gotten to a point where F1 people will look like they know what the are doing with a GP bike with out getting pie in their face.
 
I think Pigeon is probably right. The details sound too similar between Ducati and FB Corse. I'd imagine it's a typo or misinformation on behalf of Oxley. I can't imagine Ducati would outsource their powerplants.
 
FB corse still have the illegal gearbox though. It remains to be seen if they will be able to develop a legal clutch/gearbox by the beginning of 2010.

It's not going to be long until F1 is running engines about the same size as MotoGP so I'm not surprised that more F1 teams are crossing over into the world of GP engine building.
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I just wish they would bring back the 990s already. If you want engines to make 230 horsepower for 3 races and at least 6 practice sessions, raise the displacement and quit forcing the engines to sip fuel (motorcycles are already inherently fuel efficient). Personally, I like the new reliability direction and I hope it allows more teams to enter MotoGP.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Oct 28 2009, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>FB corse still have the illegal gearbox though. It remains to be seen if they will be able to develop a legal clutch/gearbox by the beginning of 2010.
I thought I had read Dorna were going to allow FB Corse to run it until they find a solution or the end of 2010, whichever comes first.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 28 2009, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I thought I had read Dorna were going to allow FB Corse to run it until they find a solution or the end of 2010, whichever comes first.

I thought I read that they can't race until they ditch the hydraulic clutch and gear actuation.
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I really don't know for sure. Dorna probably don't even know for sure.
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So in reading all of this, does this mean there is a possibility of another team being fielded for 2010?
 
My bad. I was told this story this weekend and haven't seen the article itself. I'm sure
the friend who told me about this must have been mistaken. Gotta get the new issue
of RRW and check it out. Sure would be great if FB Corse did field a few more bikes.
 
Was wondering when this would be brought up. Hot rumour at P.I was that Ducati are going to have a Yamaha style Big Bang Engine for 2010 and that they are in the final stages of development.
As reported by Darryl Beattie. Could be interesting..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gixxer K9 @ Oct 28 2009, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Was wondering when this would be brought up. Hot rumour at P.I was that Ducati are going to have a Yamaha style Big Bang Engine for 2010 and that they are in the final stages of development.
As reported by Darryl Beattie. Could be interesting..

Sounds reasonable. Pedrosa let the cat out of the bag when he refused Ducati's offer b/c he didn't want to develop another all new bike.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Oct 28 2009, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>According to M. Oxley (In RRW) Ducati is planning to field an 800cc Triple in Moto GP
in 2010. The engine was developed by Ferrari F1 and is to be supplied by
Oral Engineering. I haven't seen any confirmation of this elsewheres.
Anybody?
I had read in one of the magazines like Roadracing world etc, that Ducati has been working with Ferrari for developing a motor. The rumour said though it was for a superbike motor. It didn't say much but I am going to see if I still have the issue to find the article. Therer is a thread somewhere on here with me posting this information and I think also summing up the article I read.
 
But Ducati can use the Desmosedici 990 in superbikes, that's why it was released as a roadbike within the £35000 price limit
 

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