2011...The Grid

PASSI said:

Help me out guys...



Where am I wrong, where im I right? Please copy and fill the gaps if you like...







Who can tell who might be the second pilot on the rizla suzuki (if there is a second bike???)?



17 Riders for 2011...am I right?



Wow...smaaaall!

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Pigeon said:

2011 Grid

its been a Farce for a while and to still call it a Worldchampionship is a cop out

when points are awarded down to 15th place and many times there's less than 15 finish well say no more



motogp turn up and your guaranteed worldchampionships points is a Epic Fail by all involved



By law IT should be made to remove its status as a Worldchampionship.



Motogp Series

I HOPE More teams pull out Fold the farce series.

then start a fresh with the format / ideas / rules hammered out to try and bring it back to what it was.never happen though

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Pigeon said:

YES..!!!!!!!!! GET IN ZUK FOOK DORNA



Suzuki looks certain to run one factory GSV-R machine in 2011 after several team members were told in Sepang yesterday (Thursday) that they were unlikely to be offered new contracts.



The majority of the crew told they were free to seek alternative employment were on Loris Capirossi’s side of the garage, with Alvaro Bautista under contract for the 2011 MotoGP world championship campaign.



One was long-serving Suzuki crew chief Stuart Shenton, who has been with the Japanese factory since 1992.



Some of Bautista’s crew though will also be released in a reshuffle of the squad.



Suzuki is going ahead with its plan to slash its involvement to one bike despite the threat of legal action from Dorna.



Dorna <(.... off muppets) is insisting Suzuki honour a commitment to field two bikes until the end of the 2011 season.



The Japanese factory is also coming under severe pressure from fellow Motorcycle Sport Manufacturers Association members Honda, Yamaha and Ducati, who are leaning heavily on Suzuki to honour the agreement.



Doran boss Carmel Epilate held talks with Suzuki last week at the Japanese Grand Prix at the Twin Ring Motegi, the Spaniard revealing to MCN that he was first made aware of Suzuki’s intention to reduce its involvement back in June.



Ezpeleta said Suzuki would only be allowed to downscale its involvement to one GSV-R machine next season on the provision it fields a two-rider factory effort in the inaugural 1000cc four-stroke MotoGP class in 2012.



Suzuki sales have plummeted as a result of the global financial meltdown and its fortunes in MotoGP have nosedived since a brilliant first 800cc campaign in 2007.

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DRILL said:

I think Dorna have missed a trick by not allowing some 1000cc bikes in 2011,that way Suzuki could have fielded one of each capacity to keep the other manu`s happy.Grid would`ve looked healthier too.Anyway ,theres a lot of discussion and wrangles to iron out over the close season so we may see the 1000`s in with any luck.......

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Pigeon said:

A lots been missed in a while yes three's new rules coming in but the change this change that every season

seems like a total .... up yr in yr out

get a format ironed out run it and leave it the .... alone



fuel/tyres/engines/rookie rule/engines rule if you not won in 2yrs/ penaltys/start from pit lane/cc.capacity/TC/Electronics



The list goes on n on FFS

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DRILL said:

I think Dorna have missed a trick by not allowing some 1000cc bikes in 2011,that way Suzuki could have fielded one of each capacity to keep the other manu`s happy.Grid would`ve looked healthier too.Anyway ,theres a lot of discussion and wrangles to iron out over the close season so we may see the 1000`s in with any luck.......

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Pigeon said:

A lots been missed in a while yes three's new rules coming in but the change this change that every season

seems like a total .... up yr in yr out

get a format ironed out run it and leave it the .... alone



fuel/tyres/engines/rookie rule/engines rule if you not won in 2yrs/ penaltys/start from pit lane/cc.capacity/TC/Electronics



Edit: Fuel pressure / engine mapping



The list goes on n on FFS

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DRILL said:

I think Dorna have missed a trick by not allowing some 1000cc bikes in 2011,that way Suzuki could have fielded one of each capacity to keep the other manu`s happy.Grid would`ve looked healthier too.Anyway ,theres a lot of discussion and wrangles to iron out over the close season so we may see the 1000`s in with any luck.......

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chopperman said:

Have all the legal issues with flamini now been resolved ?

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MM: Turning to World Superbikes, you're one of the few people in the world who know the contents of the contract between the FIM and Infront Motor Sports about the use of production engines and production bikes. Whenever there's talk of MotoGP using production engines, the Flammini brothers get very worried. What can you tell us about what the contract says? Do the Flamminis have an exclusive right to race production motorcycles?



VI: Okay. The key word in this case is "homologation." The contract with the Flamminis is that they have to use production series bikes. The FIM homologates these bikes - every year or when it's necessary to do that - this bike must be from a production run, you can buy this bike in a shop. This is the first condition to homologate the bike. Then, of course every year we can change some rules, some technical rules to permit to change some pieces on this bike. But this bike must be homologated, needs to be homologated. In this case [MotoGP bikes with production engines and Moto2 bikes - MM], the bikes cannot be homologated, because it's not a production series bike.



MM: OK, that's very clear. So in the case of FTR, the British Moto2 manufacturer, they're selling 10 of their Moto2 bikes for use as a track bike, only for use on a circuit, but selling it to private individuals. Because that bike could never be homologated, it's a prototype?



VI: Yes. You can't buy these bikes in a shop, and these bikes can't be homologated. The chassis is completely free, there are seven or eight different manufacturers. This is good, I think, that you give such a chance to many small manufacturers to produce these chassis. And it's not possible to homologate this type of bike. Also, the engine has several special parts fitted, it produces more power than the normal Honda bike, it's not possible to homologate this kind of bike.

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Kropotkin said:

There are no legal issues with the Flamminis. The Flamminis are trying it on, Dorna will call their bluff.



I asked Vito Ippolito earlier this year exactly this question, and here's what he said







Translation: WSBK races the bikes we say they can race. End of story. If people want to take a Gold Wing and hotrod it for MotoGP, good luck to them...





Full interview here.

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Kropotkin said:

Full interview here.

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Jumkie said:

LINK

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