Will we ever see another American Champion?

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No, he certainly wasn't bothered by the look on VR's face when he realized what he'd got himself into with the Ducati adventure in 2011.

Someone elses turmoil doesn't bother him? That doesn't surprise me either.
 
Lol.. What I love about this forum is it is like a game of "Six Degrees Of Casey Stoner". No matter what the topic, sooner or later Casey Stoner is brought up. Sometimes by a fan, sometimes by a hater.. But fear not, a Mr. Stoner reference will shine through...

Topic about American Champion, Casey makes his arrival on page two.. Topic about kitchen reconstruction, page 4.. (I made that one up... But you get the point.)

Not saying it is a good thing or bad thing, just pointing out an observation.
 
One correction GP99, its more like "Three Degrees of Separation".
 
It's almost been 10 years since Nicky Hayden won his title, and there simply are no Americans out there other than Nicky. Once he is gone, we won't have anyone from the USA out there.

Are there any promising riders that we might see one day in MotoGP down the road, or are there just not any out there right now that have the potential to get that far?

It sucks that there have been many great American riders, and now they are just about extinct with Nicky Hayden's pending departure.

I don't think its lack of talent its Dorna's attempts to make sure that there will only be spanish riders at some point. Every year we see more and more spanish riders, I think the manufacturers should drop Dorna off a cliff myself.
 
One correction GP99, its more like "Three Degrees of Separation".

The sun revolves around Casey Stoner...and so does my life.

In Casey We Trust.

If he ever announces he is coming back, you guys probably won't hear from me for weeks because I'll be on a celebratory bender. I'll probably punch Dubs in the face during that time as well.
 
I don't think its lack of talent its Dorna's attempts to make sure that there will only be spanish riders at some point. Every year we see more and more spanish riders, I think the manufacturers should drop Dorna off a cliff myself.

Pretty soon MotoGP will only race in Spain.

They'll add Jarama to the list and then just rotate at 5 Spanish circuits for 20 races.
 
To be fair, Spain and Catalunya. Apparently, even some Spanish folk hate Spain and want no part of it.

Oh yes, the Catalan's want their independence.

Some of the politicians are threatening them by saying there will be no more El Clasico if Catalan splits.

Yeah like that'll actually happen. El Clasico being canceled would be a good move if you like committing suicide.

Maybe we can just pray for Dorna to get snared in a FIFA-esque corruption trap.
 
Do we class Ben as a quitter?
Or just Schwantz?


I know you don't mean this seriously. But I think everyone agrees - he left because he lost his greatest rival. It took the heart out of him. And Schwantz had a ....-load of injuries back when the medical arts weren't as sophisticated as they are now.

I remember Spies being very reluctant to come to Europe. After that great year in WSBK - I think his confidence was really high. And reality hit him hard when he stepped up to the big leagues. If I recall correctly - in the end doctors were saying in essence if he damaged that shoulder again, it would never function normally even for everyday life. Only my opinion, but I don't think Spies ever fully felt at ease in MGP. Plus there was all that weight he dropped which in some folks really does weird things to the psyche. He just wasn't a good fit. I reckon he would have done well back in the two-stroke era when you didn't have to be a midget or a skeleton to be competitive. The bikes weren't as incredibly complicated and having a less experienced crew might not have been as much of a disadvantage.
 
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Unfortunately this generation of riders is going to get tossed into the trash. The future is in 10-year-olds that are now currently circulating go kart tracks on YSR50's. Its up to MotoRainey to find a way to make his platform a good launching base for GP. Who's to say Rainey even wants those kids to move on up. It's yet to be seen if he's in it for the kids. Keeping a star rider in his own series certainly benefits him. I don't think,and I hope that's not the case but realistically I believe the days of Americans in GP are done. How do you compete when you have hordes of young riders who have been raised on Moto 3/Moto 2 bikes and GP tracks while Americans are running 600 super sports. American kids are talented but not groomed within the same parameters. It's like taking an F1 driver and putting him in NASCAR. The skill level is there but the skill set is not.
Nowadays those that try are handicapped from day one they set step foot in Europe. The learning curve is minimally a few years. As we've seen from Herrin and some other Americans, they don't have the time, patience,money and fortitude to be getting their ... handed to them halfway across the world

Excellent post. I think the only proper solution is to have MotoAmerica run a Spanish CEV style category I.E. On Moto3 bikes.
 
Excellent post. I think the only proper solution is to have MotoAmerica run a Spanish CEV style category I.E. On Moto3 bikes.

I believe that is part of their business plan... maybe Moto2s though...
 
I believe that is part of their business plan... maybe Moto2s though...
I heard same. But, that reminds me of a saying my dad used to say in Spanish (doesn't quite sound right in English, but it went like this): "from the soup bowl to the mouth, there is a stretch."
 
I heard same. But, that reminds me of a saying my dad used to say in Spanish (doesn't quite sound right in English, but it went like this): "from the soup bowl to the mouth, there is a stretch."

The English version is "many a slip twixt cup and lip"
 
Aus doesnt have a great deal of talent coming through, Honda had hope for Miller, but I think it is a bit misplaced (hence no contract for '16)


Incorrect.

Miller has a 3 year contract direct with HRC.

Year one was 2015 with year 3 being the 2017 season

What he does not have at this stage is a team as LCR are offering one bike with Marc VDS having signed Rabat for the factory bike which likely leaves miller a further customer machine (HRC are said to not be to thrilled with his application through 2015 but are comfortable with results so far)
 

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