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Danne

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This weekend (7-8 sep 2024) are both MotoGP and WSBK racing. Saturday, the MotoGP Sprint and WSSP overlaps each other. Sunday, MotoGP and WSSP starts at the same time. In both cases, about a hour delay of either would have fixed it.

Is that really FIM:s intentions? Or what?
 
I think it would have to be the WSSP that moves - I can't see MotoGP changing the race time for WSSP. And, I guess that those in charge of schedules for WSBK decided to do what they wanted to do. I'm not sure if FIM is enforcing global control of schedules. Are they?
 
Danne said:
This weekend (7-8 sep 2024) are both MotoGP and WSBK racing. Saturday, the MotoGP Sprint and WSSP overlaps each other. Sunday, MotoGP and WSSP starts at the same time. In both cases, about a hour delay of either would have fixed it.

Is that really FIM:s intentions? Or what?
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It's a planned and very calculated move to get more people to buy their respective video passes. With the passes, you don't have to worry about these things.

And yes, I am loco.
 
WSBK doesn't have much negotiating leverage these days. They can't name the time and place of their events. Plus, the MotoGP calendar has expanded so much, it's nearly impossible to prevent overlap if both series are on the continent.
 
PRS717 said:
It's a planned and very calculated move to get more people to buy their respective video passes. With the passes, you don't have to worry about these things.

And yes, I am loco.
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Me loco, too. No worries.

Been in advertising/marketing since 70's (yes, I'm not only a loco, but an old fart as well). E.g. used to Marketing Manager for Castrol in a Scandinavian country about 754 years ago.

Any producer/manufacturer offering several products or services strives to explore and develop the most profitable of them, especially if they're pretty similar. Problem is usually that it's hard to compare which one creates best revenues. But by occasionally allow MotoGP and WSBK race same dates, FIM, Dorna and other interested parties (mind you, this is sheer business) can estimate the "value" of each by checking data: how many chose MotoGP and how many chose WSBK.

Something like that.

Cheers
 
Danne said:
, FIM, Dorna and other interested parties (mind you, this is sheer business) can estimate the "value" of each by checking data: how many chose MotoGP and how many chose WSBK.
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Judging from all the fans disguising themselves as empty seats at a WSBK event, I think Dorna should already know the answer. It's criminal how low the attendance numbers are for WSBK.
 
PRS717 said:
Judging from all the fans disguising themselves as empty seats at a WSBK event, I think Dorna should already know the answer. It's criminal how low the attendance numbers are for WSBK.
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By "attendance", you mean physical, actual spectators at site? (sorry, English isn't my native tongue). If so, that's more or less insignificant when you're airing live races to million of viewers all over the world. While the track itself gain $$ selling tickets to attendancees (as I assume you mean), Dorna, FIM and other get umpteen times more selling the broadcast to networks all over.

The number of live online viewers TV/Internet compared to costs is crucial. If it's 50,000 spectators at site will of course make the TV broadcast more interesting than if it were empty stands. But there are tons of broadcasts captivating millions of viewers without any "live spectators" at all. TV-shows, movies, etc.

Sorry for ranting......
 
Danne said:
By "attendance", you mean physical, actual spectators at site? (sorry, English isn't my native tongue). If so, that's more or less insignificant when you're airing live races to million of viewers all over the world. While the track itself gain $$ selling tickets to attendancees (as I assume you mean), Dorna, FIM and other get umpteen times more selling the broadcast to networks all over.

The number of live online viewers TV/Internet compared to costs is crucial. If it's 50,000 spectators at site will of course make the TV broadcast more interesting than if it were empty stands. But there are tons of broadcasts captivating millions of viewers without any "live spectators" at all. TV-shows, movies, etc.

Sorry for ranting......
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Yes, I meant physical spectators at site. I was extending the enthusiasm...or lack thereof....of the attendance at the track to viewership online. I guess my larger point was I am always disappointed by the lack of attendance at WSBK races. For my money, this would make me want to go to a WSBK race as access to the cool places would be easier.

Oh, your post did not read as a rant. Keep 'em coming.
 
King of global racing is F1.

MotoGP works it calendar around F1, from what I have read. When they overlap, as they have to when both have 381 races per month, it's the MotoGP race that gets an alternative time slot. Usually though, with the 2 pm CET race, the bikers are done and dusted before the billionaires of the open wheels enter the stage.

The WSSP and MotoGP overlap is intentional. Otherwise it'll be too much bikes for one weekend.
 

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