Who was the most unpopular rider ever in MotoGP?

Pity that in this type of sport we occasionally get them but they do pop up every now and again.

Biagi and Sete were reasonably unpopular, mainly because of the rivalry with Rossi.

Pedrosa seems well on his way to achieving this status.

But IMO the most unpopular rider with other riders, fans and especially teams must have been John Kajinski.

It might be interesting to see if others agree.

Biaggi id say more so than Sete.IMO Sete was less of a whinger and therefore not as unpopular.Right now though its Pedrosa which reminds me ive got a good candidate for most unpopular manager/mentor guess who

Pedro FTW

I agree with you about Kozinski aswell as Sete and Max, with Max probably being more hated than Sete mainly because of all the events that happened in 2001 (Elbowing incident at Suzuka, punch up at Catalunya etc). I would also say, judging by this site that Dani Pedrosa is hated by a hell of a lot of fans.

If you mean benig unpopular in the paddock itself then Max and Pedrosa would fit.

However, both are hugely popular outside by fans worldwide...

'Lil John...remember that end of season incident with Crafar? Thing is, his obsessive compulsion disorder made so many aspects of his behaviour comical, it offset the disdain that others may have felt for him (although almost everyone that was ever in his crew allegedly despised him).

A far more universally hated rider, and perhaps the most unpopular amongst his peers of all time imo was Phil Reid.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Nov 10 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>'Lil John...remember that end of season incident with Crafar? Thing is, his obsessive compulsion disorder made so many aspects of his behaviour comical, it offset the disdain that others may have felt for him (although almost everyone that was ever in his crew allegedly despised him).

A far more universally hated rider, and perhaps the most unpopular amongst his peers of all time imo was Phil Reid.

Are you on about the SBK incident where Crafar was about to take his first and only ever WSBK race win and Kosinzki completely wiped him out and broke his collerbone?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ Nov 10 2008, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Are you on about the SBK incident where Crafar was about to take his first and only ever WSBK race win and Kosinzki completely wiped him out and broke his collerbone?
You got it. What made it even more reprehensible is the fact that he'd already won the championship, and yet still pulled such a ..... move on Crafar to deprive him of a maiden win.

Yeah, I think it is probably Kocinski.

He was before my time, but I have never read or heard so many bad things about 1 racer.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Nov 10 2008, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, I think it is probably Kocinski.

He was before my time, but I have never read or heard so many bad things about 1 racer.

anybody who vacuums their sofa on the front lawn in their underpants deserves to be ridiculed and despised. would you trust such a man?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Nov 11 2008, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>anybody who vacuums their sofa on the front lawn in their underpants deserves to be ridiculed and despised. would you trust such a man?

Bloody funny, but that can't be true though...........can it?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Nov 10 2008, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If you mean benig unpopular in the paddock itself then Max and Pedrosa would fit.

Dani is unknown by most of the paddock, not disliked. Those who know him seem to think hes a decent guy.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Nov 10 2008, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>'Lil John...remember that end of season incident with Crafar? Thing is, his obsessive compulsion disorder made so many aspects of his behaviour comical, it offset the disdain that others may have felt for him (although almost everyone that was ever in his crew allegedly despised him).

A far more universally hated rider, and perhaps the most unpopular amongst his peers of all time imo was Phil Reid.

Phil Read, now that’s going back a long time. Showing your age here that’s for sure. Yes the most unpopular thing he did was to take the 250 WC away from his team mate against team orders when it was agreed that he would be the125 WC way back in the late 60’s. Made him a very unpopular double WC. He could not get a ride for 2 years after that little incident.

What about Carl Fogarty? I've only ever seen nationalist nut jobs have any good words to say about him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Nov 10 2008, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What about Carl Fogarty? I've only ever seen nationalist nut jobs have any good words to say about him.

Well to my knowledge Foggy only rode one GP race so he can hardly count as a MotoGP rider.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Nov 11 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What about Carl Fogarty? I've only ever seen nationalist nut jobs have any good words to say about him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ Nov 11 2008, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well to my knowledge Foggy only rode one GP race so he can hardly count as a MotoGP rider.

Only if this was a WSBK thread........
The winner would be.......... King Carl

I will assume that by MotoGP you mean GrandsPrix and not just the four stroke era (which started the MotoGP name).

Some have mentioned Kocinski and he certainly was not well regarded amongst fellow riders or teams (who can forget his 'alleged deliberate' lunching of the Suzuki 250cc motor).

But I would not call him the most disliked.

In modern terms the most disked by fans seems to be the rider/s that most challenge Rossi (Biaggi, Sete, DP, Stoner) which is no real different to years gone by.

But, in the time I have watched GP I would say that the most disliked rider (by fellow riders) was little known German Michael Rudroff who was often referred to as the 'mobile chicane' for his penchant to getting himself into the way of faster riders. Whilst some may see this as acceptable, when you are being lapped you do have an obligation, never mind when being lapped for the second and sometimes third time.

Aside from Rudroff there was one rider who lost a lot of respect amongst fellow riders by his actions at one GP (late 80's/early 90's as I cannot recall). This rider may surprise as he is quite well regarded but on this day he rode his HB Suzuki when the vast majority of riders (including all factory teams) had withdrawn due to safety concerns. That rider is Pier Francesco Chili and he was very disliked as the result of these actions which were (from memory) his only GP race win.





Garry

Pedro totally lost me when he engaged in skulduggery to get the B'stones.

If he was open and honest then maybe it would have been okay but his manager arranging tyre boycotts one week and signing up to Bridgestone a few weeks later lost it. This is what gave us the single tyre.

Pedro stood by the whole time with undoubted full knowledge of all of this and remained as stony faced as a Tibetan monk on Quaaludes. Oh for even the faintest breath of honour...

Qui facit per alium facit per se.

Damned by your associations, your manager and mouthpiece little man.

I've dislike other riders but not to the same degree and yes Kocinski gave me the ..... but he was a .... and very open (no pun) about it and that is better than being a slimy little reptile.

I also didn't like Criville for taking Doohan out at his home GP in 96 but that's racing, but Dani did this to Nicki in 2006 (not at home).

Dani is it.

Disclaimer: He dumps Puig and I'll reconsider (like they care but hey that's how it is)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Nov 11 2008, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But, in the time I have watched GP I would say that the most disliked rider (by fellow riders) was little known German Michael Rudroff who was often referred to as the 'mobile chicane' for his penchant to getting himself into the way of faster riders. Whilst some may see this as acceptable, when you are being lapped you do have an obligation, never mind when being lapped for the second and sometimes third time.
I'd totally forgotten about Rudroff. Thanks for reminding me. I always remember every time he came on screen Barry Sheene would bag the .... out of him. To this day, I don't know how he got a ride.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 11 2008, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Pedro totally lost me when he engaged in skulduggery to get the B'stones.

If he was open and honest then maybe it would have been okay but his manager arranging tyre boycotts one week and signing up to Bridgestone a few weeks later lost it. This is what gave us the single tyre.

Pedro stood by the whole time with undoubted full knowledge of all of this and remained as stony faced as a Tibetan monk on Quaaludes. Oh for even the faintest breath of honour...

Qui facit per alium facit per se.

Damned by your associations, your manager and mouthpiece little man.

I've dislike other riders but not to the same degree and yes Kocinski gave me the ..... but he was a .... and very open (no pun) about it and that is better than being a slimy little reptile.

I also didn't like Criville for taking Doohan out at his home GP in 96 but that's racing, but Dani did this to Nicki in 2006 (not at home).

Dani is it.

Disclaimer: He dumps Puig and I'll reconsider (like they care but hey that's how it is)

I would agree, but the question is about unpopularity in the paddock not by the fans in this forum.

If being unpopular in this forum were the criteria then we each woudl have our least favorite or popular.