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gui22a
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 Gobmeier said today that updates are coming from Audi, but not to this bike. I don't get it but maybe it's something related to new techs. 


 


They're all getting new A10s as company cars, that's probably what he meant. ;)
 
BJ.C
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They're all getting new A10s as company cars, that's probably what he meant. ;)


 


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That was good!
 
Interesting feedback from Pirro who is riding Spies' bike this weekend -- he says that the standard bike (that has the old frame as opposed to the test bike he rides normally, that has a new frame) is "more physical, lacks feeling at the front and doesn't respond well to setup changes". Sounds familiar? That means that the new frame could be a step in the right direction. Dovi and Nicky didn't go immediately faster with the new frame, but they could replicate the lap times they do normally and that could be encouraging; the new frame could have much more potential. Pirro, who is a fast rider and knows it well, likes it much better.
 
J4rn0
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Interesting feedback from Pirro who is riding Spies' bike this weekend -- he says that the standard bike (that has the old frame as opposed to the test bike he rides normally, that has a new frame) is "more physical, lacks feeling at the front and doesn't respond well to setup changes". Sounds familiar? That means that the new frame could be a step in the right direction. Dovi and Nicky didn't go immediately faster with the new frame, but they could replicate the lap times they do normally and that could be encouraging; the new frame could have much more potential. Pirro, who is a fast rider and knows it well, likes it much better.


Fingers crossed.
 
J4rn0
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New frame, meant to allow better weight distribution.
A new more compact engine to take full advantage of the new frame should debut at Mugello or Misano.
My spies tell me the Barcelona test is where the new bike will debut, with another major upgrade (fixing the understeer) at Misano, where there is also a test.
 
gui22a
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Krop's analysis about seamless gear shift Yamaha vs Honda:
 
http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2013/05/04/is_yamaha_using_a_seamless_gearbox_the_d.html
 
The man was beside the track with the mic, recording all bikes passing. When I thought we would finally get knowledge about Ducati seamless shift time (I was so happy in the beginning of the article...), I realized I had forgotten the article was written by Krop.
 
.....
I wrote that article to prove Neil Spalding wrong. I didn't include the data from the Ducati (they are shifting in around 23ms), because their gearbox is irrelevant, it has nothing to do with their problems. We know for certain that the Hondas are using a seamless box, and that it works well. We also now know for certain that Yamaha aren't using a seamless box.
 
Kropotkin
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I wrote that article to prove Neil Spalding wrong. I didn't include the data from the Ducati (they are shifting in around 23ms), because their gearbox is irrelevant, it has nothing to do with their problems. We know for certain that the Hondas are using a seamless box, and that it works well. We also now know for certain that Yamaha aren't using a seamless box.


 


It has nothing to do with their problems, but it's all about curiosity on Ducati's current engineering potential to close the gap to Honda tech. It's awesome when we can bench the 3 factories against each other. Maybe Suzuki can enter this list next year. MotoGP is not  all about riders against riders, much of the audience is also interested in brands high-end tech capability.


 


Anyway, I can understand you don't give a .... about Ducati, thanks for the information, 23 ms is not that bad but it's kind frustrating, Honda's GB is at least 2x faster. Audi/Ducati needs to quickly recruit more talent.
 
<sub><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;<span style="font-size:18px;Dovi > Rossi (when it comes to pushing the Ducati to its limits)</sub>
 
Kropotkin
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Reading comprehension fail.


 


 


Brief interpretation. Krop ias saying that the development of shifting faster and slicker than a honda will do nothing ffor theiur results, that is handling, they should fix that.  In the words of Pete "if he day ent caer laddy he wud thin not rund measuring the gear changer now". 
 
BarryMachine
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Very Slow Gearchanges ............. just another VSG .............. but not the real one!!
Dear .....,

Kindly refrain from using my exapansions of your acronym. It's unimaginative, unoriginal and its use was in rather effective opposition to your idiotic argument.

Thank you,

Dr J No.


PS you forgetful ......
 
Dr No
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Dear .....,

Kindly refrain from using my exapansions of your acronym. It's unimaginative, unoriginal and its use was in rather effective opposition to your idiotic argument.

Thank you,

Dr J No.


PS you forgetful ......


 


What argument? You have no idea what the hell VSG's are and were just playing silly word games. Had you even attempted a cogent reply then perhaps we could say otherwise ....... but alas, you remain with no ....... idea.
 
BarryMachine
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What argument? You have no idea what the hell VSG's are and were just playing silly word games. Had you even attempted a cogent reply then perhaps we could say otherwise ....... but alas, you remain with no ....... idea.



Oh dear, Barry.

I responded twice to your pitiful invocations of polar moments of inertia.

And you went silent.

Go back to those threads and have a go.

Otherwise, I'll assume you're done and dusted.
 
Geonerd
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FWIW,

 

Observed max .... points

 

Honda ~17,000  (17K ECU limiter.)

Yam ~16,500 (16,5K ECU limiter.)

Duc ~17,800 (2012 bike.  No '13 data yet.) (Hard limit=?)

No current CRT data.


Keep in mind this data was accumulated by a guy who bags groceries and lives in his moms basement.
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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Keep in mind this data was accumulated by a guy who bags groceries and lives in his moms basement.


 


This from a scrawny little rat turd who evidently has nothing better to do than carefully nurture a bizarre hate-on for someone he's never even met?


Dude, is it any wonder why Jumkie bought you that shirt?   How is it that you go out of your way to belittle and insult and inflict your blind, unthinking hostility on any and all, yet somehow, beyond all reason, you consider yourself to be a victim?  That's seriously ...... up. Snakes-in-the-Head CRAZY!  I suppose there IS an upside to your condition; if you ever find yourself short of money, you can always offer to serve as some Psych student's research subject.  You're ...... up enough to warrant <u>several</u> thesis papers.   


 


Overall, your inferiority complex is rather amusing.  Just because some of us chose to pay attention in school, instead of joining you in the back of the class to eat cupcakes made of paste, decorated with those oh-so-sweet lead paint flakes...  Please blame and hate the world for <u>your</u> failure, you stupid little ....!


 


Now, back you go.  Back into your cage, Monkey Boy!  Good Monkey!


And please, for God's sake. wipe your poo off your hands and face.  Nobody wants to see that.


Thanks.
 

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