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Back to topic: According to MotoSprint the strategy of Audi is clear: they want Ducati to continue racing in MotoGP and they want it to compete at the top. They believe Rossi has indicated the right way ahead and even after losing him they want to continue in that direction, making a more tractable and easy to ride bike. That is why they have blocked the deal with Crutchlow and open negotiations with Dovi. Dovi has asked for guarantees about Audi's commitment to change the Ducati and received them, so a two-year deal is ready to be signed, or already signed with him.
 
Fair enough, but again, why do you think the Italians are especially difficult to work with? More than, say, the Spanish or the French or the Chinese or the Indians? Do you have first hand experience, or is it just the usual silly prejudices?
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I don't think they are particularly difficult to work with, neither do the Germans, obviously. Any country that developed a tank with 18 reverse gears and managed to bomb the .... out of Ethiopia with chemical weapons has to have it together, technically.



Not that I have first-hand experience of Italians bombing the .... out of things or of their use of chemical weapons against the civilian and legal inhabitants of the country they were invading - just going from historical facts.
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For all the suposition and wondering as to the faults with the Ducati, it seems the biggest issue is the packaging of the engine, and the location of things such as the countershaft sprocket.



For all the suposition and wondering as to the faults with the Ducati, it seems the biggest issue is the management of Ducati Corse.



They aren't able to solve a problem despite spending tens of millions of dollars on it.



Whether that's because of engineering stubbornness or inherent incapability, who knows? Regardless, it has shown them up to be second-rate when it comes to thinking their way round an engineering problem.



Either that or it is corporate (read, sales) politics that is hamstringing them... no doubt it will all come out, one day.
 
An equipe the size of ducati winning races, let alone a world championship, against the likes of honda and yamaha remains a remarkable achievement.



And yet KTM have won races against the likes of Honda in the past... smart engineering isn't all about the size of the dog in the fight - it is all about the size of the fight in the dog.



Ducati are one of those little handbag dogs you see men carrying in Milan.
 
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Hope it can be fixed, we cannot see all partial edits of a post published.
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And yet KTM have won races against the likes of Honda in the past... smart engineering isn't all about the size of the dog in the fight - it is all about the size of the fight in the dog.



Ducati are one of those little handbag dogs you see men carrying in Milan.
LOL! - freakin' emoticons are a nearly all missing.
 
I don't think they are particularly difficult to work with, neither do the Germans, obviously. Any country that developed a tank with 18 reverse gears and managed to bomb the .... out of Ethiopia with chemical weapons has to have it together, technically.



Not that I have first-hand experience of Italians bombing the .... out of things or of their use of chemical weapons against the civilian and legal inhabitants of the country they were invading - just going from historical facts.
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Again this is silly, because you cannot single out Italy for that, when it was the common practice of warfare in that period (check your historical facts again, maybe it will help you). You may learn that even years later, in WWII, all sides were happily bombing hundreds of thousands of civilians out of existence, and intentionally (Dresden anybody? Not to mention the first use of nuclear weapons on undefended cities that were certainly not military targets). The most effective at that game were hardly the Italians (because of their military unpreparadness and lack of basic equipment more than because of higher war ethics, no doubt).
 
Again this is silly, because you cannot single out Italy for that...



What? I can't single out Italy for bombing the .... out of Ethiopia? Was someone else using chemical weapons, aeroplanes, bombs, machine guns, tanks, against an 'army' using muskets? This was 1936 - not the dark ages. Just 75 years ago.



Sorry, you are being blinkered from the truth of history by your racial pride.



Accept it - Italy's actions in Abyssinia were reprehensible - as bad, or worse, as any other unjustified military action in the 20th century. That you don't like it matters .... all to history - the record is unambiguous. When given the opportunity, Italy brought industrialised warfare to a country barely out of the iron age for no reason other than their own self-aggrandisement and profit. Think of it like 'winter testing' for arms manufacturers.



That they had their ... handed to them by a bunch of men with swords, muzzle-loaders and camels probably contributed - Italy's pride was extremely dented when they had to run back to Massawa with their tail between their legs... so they decided to punish Abyssinia by delivering the full might of their munitions factories to innocent people with no aim other than petulance.



Feel free to lecture me on history any time you choose, pal. I am confident my education and research skills will match your myopia any time.
 

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