Surely Lorenzo as world champion should be experienced enough to realise he was closing too fast on Ellison. Then again I suppose he assumed there would be blue flags and Ellison would get out of his way etc. On a track like that though where there was only a thin dry line and with him on slicks, it was a bit risky I would say. More caution should have been used in my opinion. But what do I know?
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.... race for me. Nicky taking himself out after all the drama, ..... Anyway, it was still a nail biter for me since all .... weather conditions are prone to something unexpected. First and foremost, congrats to Kat Nagasuka. He was to me the rider of the race. It was an honest good feeling to see him welt up with tears of joy. I was hoping Pedrosa would have a moment and Kat bring it home for a win. Seeing the other Jap guy on the team cover his eyes from crying was a great human moment.
Pirro was easily the second best performance of the the event. CRTs go into these races with every possible disadvantage, so for him to start and finish ahead of any "prototypes" and several factories, not to mention the supposed "greatest of all time" is something that should be recognized and applauded.
Pedro's ride was the third best of this event. Sure, hes on the best bike on the planet given every possible opportunity to succeed, a package that would even allow 3rd tier torpedo-prone paper-dragons rider from Wsbk 'seem' GP mid-pack; but still, the conditions were atrocious and he did start from the pit (when was the last time somebody won from the pit). His confidence in the wet (in no small part to having the best of everything) has been the revelation this year.
Now for the honorable mentions of shame:
Lorenzo, stupid desperation move to overtake a rider he could have easily waited for a few more corners. It was a shame he took himself out, as the battle looked to be heating up as Pedros was gaining on him. I'd even say it was Pedros pressure that may have screwed with JLos focus, as this would have been a battle of pride, the greatest pressure of all. Lorenzo is lucky he didn't screw up his body, as it is, he will need every off-season testing moment to beat his Dorna sponsored teammate.
Rossi should immediately figure out what his pay was for this (and several other events I can think of) and give Ducati the money they paid him to try in good faith during a race. It was obvious he was thinking of Tuesday. Dishonorable as usual. Getting lapped by other "prototypes" was shameful enough, but getting beat by CRTs and satellite riders who have enjoyed zero upgrades, well, what more do we need to know about the man. But nonetheless, expect a resurgence of the Yellow Army and the "experts" revising the Ducati years when the empty results come next season. Before VR's revealing Ducati stint I knew his 'results' shouldn't be taken at face value, as I tried to evaluate his record against a bit of analysis and a dash of league favortism. Thank God he made that ego induced fateful signing with Ducati. Now those who can see clearly (not a common virtue) can affixed his results this coming year with an [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif][/font]. Carmelo Clause couldn't help himself and had a pokerface laps, revealing to many of us what we already knew, MotoVR will be milked until the CRT ........ gets sorted out.
Nicky's performance at Valencia could be placed into this category s well. Trying hard has its risks. But you still have to be smart and be patient and get into a groove. Even Pedro almost threw it away coming out of pit lane, yet he eventually won, so yes, no matter what the conditions were sketchy; but I was disappointed with his performance, especially given the fact that Ducati is a decent wet weather bike (you wouldn't know it from VR's performance) though look no further than Karel Abraham. So, it was a shame to see Nicky throw it away so early.
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Pirro was easily the second best performance of the the event. CRTs go into these races with every possible disadvantage, so for him to start and finish ahead of any "prototypes" and several factories, not to mention the supposed "greatest of all time" is something that should be recognized and applauded.
Pedro's ride was the third best of this event. Sure, hes on the best bike on the planet given every possible opportunity to succeed, a package that would even allow 3rd tier torpedo-prone paper-dragons rider from Wsbk 'seem' GP mid-pack; but still, the conditions were atrocious and he did start from the pit (when was the last time somebody won from the pit). His confidence in the wet (in no small part to having the best of everything) has been the revelation this year.
Now for the honorable mentions of shame:
Lorenzo, stupid desperation move to overtake a rider he could have easily waited for a few more corners. It was a shame he took himself out, as the battle looked to be heating up as Pedros was gaining on him. I'd even say it was Pedros pressure that may have screwed with JLos focus, as this would have been a battle of pride, the greatest pressure of all. Lorenzo is lucky he didn't screw up his body, as it is, he will need every off-season testing moment to beat his Dorna sponsored teammate.
Rossi should immediately figure out what his pay was for this (and several other events I can think of) and give Ducati the money they paid him to try in good faith during a race. It was obvious he was thinking of Tuesday. Dishonorable as usual. Getting lapped by other "prototypes" was shameful enough, but getting beat by CRTs and satellite riders who have enjoyed zero upgrades, well, what more do we need to know about the man. But nonetheless, expect a resurgence of the Yellow Army and the "experts" revising the Ducati years when the empty results come next season. Before VR's revealing Ducati stint I knew his 'results' shouldn't be taken at face value, as I tried to evaluate his record against a bit of analysis and a dash of league favortism. Thank God he made that ego induced fateful signing with Ducati. Now those who can see clearly (not a common virtue) can affixed his results this coming year with an [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif][/font]. Carmelo Clause couldn't help himself and had a pokerface laps, revealing to many of us what we already knew, MotoVR will be milked until the CRT ........ gets sorted out.
Nicky's performance at Valencia could be placed into this category s well. Trying hard has its risks. But you still have to be smart and be patient and get into a groove. Even Pedro almost threw it away coming out of pit lane, yet he eventually won, so yes, no matter what the conditions were sketchy; but I was disappointed with his performance, especially given the fact that Ducati is a decent wet weather bike (you wouldn't know it from VR's performance) though look no further than Karel Abraham. So, it was a shame to see Nicky throw it away so early.
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Not Ellison thank goodness!!
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Ah yes, diff, as in, inferior, yet one baring the Ducati logo. Pathetic? Yeah, u trying to make case for VRs awful performance by saying he did what the Ducati would allow, yet, he finished behind an inferior Ducati. Ah, yes, ridiculous.
Yes correct. Abraham was riding a worse bike.
Jumkie was right I think. He very much had Tuesday in mind during the race.
So they developed in the wrong direction?
Sorry Goaty - Just winding you up a little
So what is the forecast for Valencia today? Better or worse than yesterday?
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Valentino rode the ducati like a ....... girl.
Go Valentino 2013 super blue speedy fast racing wog champion of all the times.
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