Valencia Practice/Qualy Thread

[chockmoose]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Nov 10 2009, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Release your lips from his .... and come up for air. So now you clowns are gonna throw points up? Why didn’t you guys have same logic in 06/07??? Hahaha must be nice having flexible logic. So tell me Chickmoose, who was the fastest in 06? Who was the fastest in 07? Ah all those attempts of rubbishing coming back to haunt you? Funny thing about double standards eh? There is a saying, 'those who talk .... fall faster than a cripple'. You boppers did plenty of .... talking, and now it all applies to your boy Rossi; swallow that.

Perhaps you may want to update you avi to a crying Rossi. He's the one doing all the whining.

Keep your narcissistic drivel to yourself. Your Stoner worship is on a par with the M Jackson ..... that you wrote.
Every one is entitled to an opinion, does not mean that yours is worth more consideration than anyone else's.

You like to play (in your own mind) devils advocate, I see you as the playground bully.

 

[Austin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Nov 10 2009, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Release your lips from his .... and come up for air. So now you clowns are gonna throw points up? Why didn’t you guys have same logic in 06/07??? Hahaha must be nice having flexible logic. So tell me Chickmoose, who was the fastest in 06? Who was the fastest in 07? Ah all those attempts of rubbishing coming back to haunt you? Funny thing about double standards eh? There is a saying, 'those who talk .... fall faster than a cripple'. You boppers did plenty of .... talking, and now it all applies to your boy Rossi; swallow that.

Perhaps you may want to update you avi to a crying Rossi. He's the one doing all the whining.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

 

[SuperShinya56]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chockmoose @ Nov 10 2009, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keep your narcissistic drivel to yourself. Your Stoner worship is on a par with the M Jackson ..... that you wrote.
Every one is entitled to an opinion, does not mean that yours is worth more consideration than anyone else's.

You like to play (in your own mind) devils advocate, I see you as the playground bully.


Actually Jumkie boy is a Nicky Hayden 'The Kentucky Squid' worshipper. He only likes Stoner because he seems so far to be the only one who can really take it to Rossi. And yes, Jumkie is a big time Rossi hater even though he claims he's not and put the blame on the Rossi Boppers such as yourself for the hatred.

 

[MdubSTYLIE]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Nov 10 2009, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Actually Jumkie boy is a Nicky Hayden 'The Kentucky Squid' worshipper. He only likes Stoner because he seems so far to be the only one who can really take it to Rossi. And yes, Jumkie is a big time Rossi hater even though he claims he's not and put the blame on the Rossi Boppers such as yourself for the hatred.

SS you trying to some up jumkie is like is as ........ as being a super fan of someone who doesn't race anymore. Why don't you change your name to SuperWashedup56.

 

[Jumkie]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chockmoose @ Nov 10 2009, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keep your narcissistic drivel to yourself. Your Stoner worship is on a par with the M Jackson ..... that you wrote.
Every one is entitled to an opinion, does not mean that yours is worth more consideration than anyone else's.

You like to play (in your own mind) devils advocate, I see you as the playground bully.

What makes this so fun is that Stoner is about as my fav as Rossi (both admired but recognize their human). It’s the boppers' positions that I have challenged. Ah but those Rossi colored glasses have kept you from seeing the difference. Opinions, yes, not saying mine is worth more than yours, I'm just pointing out the double standard for which you and your kind have formulated them (again, you miss the difference).

Bully? Ah, you and the boppers haven't said anything to bully the fans of those who managed to beat your boy have you??? Look in the mirror clown. If you don't like what I'm saying then debate it logically.

1. Is Rossi whining? That is a yes or no question. (Try to answer it based on YOUR standard of whining. I’m sure you still remember what you consider whining and crying right. Just look at your avatar buddy for a clue.
2. Did Rossi win on the merits of: good consistency, smart strategy, superior machinery (your standard), fortune, attrition, etc.? Did not the previous two champs do the same? So why does it seem so bad for your boy to do it the same way? It’s not a dig clown; it’s simply recognition of how it was accomplished. You guys have made it into a negative; what otherwise before 06 was simply the way it was always done. You (and the boppers) did this when you wanted to “rationalize” how it could be possible for Rossi to lose a title.

Chickmoose, I don’t think I’ve had pleasure of too many exchanges with you. Yes, I’m a bit abrasive (at least toward the boppers), but it makes me laugh to see you guys get wound up when I shoot back while I’m sure you’ve had your digs (don’t go saying your not part of the fun and games, again reference your avi for clues). So why get butt hurt? You can throw rocks, but when you get them lobbed back, now you’re gonna get pissed? I suppose my “opinion” on Rossi’s latest whining was too much for you to bare, or perhaps me saying he wasn’t the fastest guy. Well news flash, I said that because I remember the boppers saying the same thing before, so I thought I’d throw it in your face. So let me get this straight. In 06 the guy with the most points (as you now are so interested in numbers) was NOT the fastest guy but now the guy with the most points is? What changed in your logic?

 

[Austin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Nov 10 2009, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In 06 the guy with the most points (as you now are so interested in numbers) was NOT the fastest guy but now the guy with the most points is? What changed in your logic?
You're overanalyzing, Jum. In 2006 Rossi finished second in points but was generally the fastest rider, thus the points were irrelevant. In 2009, Rossi finished first in points but was not the general consensus fastest rider, thus the points are the only relevant aspect. It doesn't matter what Nicky Hayden or Casey Stoner or Jorge Lorenzo did, what matters is Valentino Rossi took part in the races. And whether or not he accumulated the most points or was fastest throughout the season or won the most races is irrelevant. Because Rossi has won nine world championships, that's a 125cc world championship, a 250cc world championship, a 500cc world championship, four 990cc MotoGP world championships and two 800cc MotoGP world championships. So the next time you want to think that another rider deserves any sort of accolade, you might want to remember how illustrious Rossi's career has been. And it's not even over yet!

Get a clue, Jum

 

[Talpa]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Nov 11 2009, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're overanalyzing, Jum. In 2006 Rossi finished second in points but was generally the fastest rider, thus the points were irrelevant. In 2009, Rossi finished first in points but was not the general consensus fastest rider, thus the points are the only relevant aspect. It doesn't matter what Nicky Hayden or Casey Stoner or Jorge Lorenzo did, what matters is Valentino Rossi took part in the races. And whether or not he accumulated the most points or was fastest throughout the season or won the most races is irrelevant. Because Rossi has won nine world championships, that's a 125cc world championship, a 250cc world championship, a 500cc world championship, four 990cc MotoGP world championships and two 800cc MotoGP world championships. So the next time you want to think that another rider deserves any sort of accolade, you might want to remember how illustrious Rossi's career has been. And it's not even over yet!

Get a clue, Jum

Awesome!!! Well done Austin, nailed the ....., and he is displaying the same old traits yet again, bear in mind though that narsarsitic types like jum don't like being proven wrong time and time again, he will come up with some other rubbish but as you pointed out so well he really doesn't have a clue!

 

[SuperShinya56]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Nov 10 2009, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Awesome!!! Well done Austin, nailed the ....., and he is displaying the same old traits yet again, bear in mind though that narsarsitic types like jum don't like being proven wrong time and time again, he will come up with some other rubbish but as you pointed out so well he really doesn't have a clue!

Talpa... get a clue and stop being so naieve, Austin and Jumkie are on the same team. What Austin said does have some truth to it, but for the most part he was being sarcastic. You've got to know who's on what team man !!!

But yeah, Jumkie lost badly this round.

 

[Talpa]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Nov 11 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Talpa... get a clue and stop being so naieve, Austin and Jumkie are on the same team. What Austin said does have some truth to it, but for the most part he was being sarcastic. You've got to know who's on what team man !!!

But yeah, Jumkie lost badly this round.
And you didn't think I was being sacastic? And as usual your post reeks of mental instability

 

[yello13]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Nov 10 2009, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In 2006 Rossi finished second in points but was generally the fastest rider, thus the points were irrelevant. In 2009, Rossi finished first in points but was not the general consensus fastest rider, thus the points are the only relevant aspect.

I really hope that was a form of sarcasm. If not, your ability to analyze and reason logically is suspect.

-edit so after reading further comments I am lead to believe it was...but clarification from the man himself would be great.

 

[Austin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Nov 10 2009, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Awesome!!! Well done Austin, nailed the ....., and he is displaying the same old traits yet again, bear in mind though that narsarsitic types like jum don't like being proven wrong time and time again, he will come up with some other rubbish but as you pointed out so well he really doesn't have a clue!

You set 'em up, I'll knock 'em down.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yello13 @ Nov 10 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I really hope that was a form of sarcasm. If not, your ability to analyze and reason logically is suspect.

-edit so after reading further comments I am lead to believe it was...but clarification from the man himself would be great.
Sarcasm.

 

[VHMP01]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Nov 10 2009, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Again, congrats to Rossi. Even though he wasn't the fastest man of the season, he won on the staples of championships: consistency, smart strategy, health, fortune, and attrition from others, etc[Edit: forgot to add: superior machine].

Man Jumks, your post was so fine except for this last bit, seems that you woke up only in the last races: "consistency, smart strategy, health, fortune,"… Most Poles, Most Podiums, and most against your arguments Most Fastest Laps too, all around 2009.

<u><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%<span style="color:#0000ff2009 Poles:</u>

<u><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%<span style="color:#0000ff2009 Podiums:</u>

<u><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%<span style="color:#0000ff2009 Fastest Laps:</u>

I guess it is also important to say that Rossi won the Championship! He may have loosened up at the end, but only took care of Lorenzo who was the one that mattered then.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Nov 10 2009, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and attrition from others, etc[Edit: forgot to add: superior machine]. No shame in those elements (though you couldn't convince the boppers). Sadly he has managed to overshadow another title with an extremely ungracious demand that they get rid of his rival Lorenzo. Talk about whining. (Though I'm sure the boppers will take his lead and argue that he's only doing it because he has been the sole developer; it appears the test riders, tire techs, crew chief & mechanics, plus the sea of engineers all sit around with their thumbs up their ..... since he takes all the credit). Perhaps somebody may need to explain his a <span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%<u>mere employee</u> and one of many participants in an open competition. Looks like the Bridgestone threats all over again. I just hope this time the series does not cave to his childish and unbecoming public tirade. Great rider flawed character. Nothing new really, everybody is human, but only Rossi gets a pass for such a public display of insolent ungraciousness. The man won <span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%<u>a</u> title, giver your mouth a rest.

A 'mere employee' that has won 9 Championships, wow, now that is silly compa!

 

[Mastodon]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Nov 11 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>

BREAKING NEWS

Internet poster suggests Pedrosa faster than Stoner and Lorenzo, world dies of laughter

 

[VHMP01]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Nov 10 2009, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>who was the fastest in 07?

2007 Fastest Laps
6 Stoner, Casey AUSTRALIA
3 Rossi, Valentino ITALY
3 Pedrosa, Dani SPAIN
2 Elias, Toni SPAIN
2 Hopkins, John UNITED STATES
1 Vermeulen, Chris AUSTRALIA
1 Hayden, Nicky UNITED STATES

2007 Poles
5 Stoner, Casey AUSTRALIA
5 Pedrosa, Dani SPAIN
4 Rossi, Valentino ITALY
2 Edwards, Colin UNITED STATES
1 Hayden, Nicky UNITED STATES
1 Vermeulen, Chris

2007 Podiums No Data Shows

You got me on that (2007) one… but:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Nov 10 2009, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>who was the fastest in 06?

2006 Fastest Laps
5 Capirossi, Loris ITALY
4 Pedrosa, Dani SPAIN
4 Rossi, Valentino ITALY
2 Hayden, Nicky UNITED STATES
1 Roberts Jr, Kenny UNITED STATES
1 Elias, Toni SPAIN

2006 Podiums
10 Hayden, Nicky UNITED STATES
10 Rossi, Valentino ITALY
8 Pedrosa, Dani SPAIN
8 Capirossi, Loris ITALY
7 Melandri, Marco ITALY
2 Roberts Jr, Kenny UNITED STATES
1 Elias, Toni SPAIN
1 Vermeulen, Chris AUSTRALIA
1 Nakano, Shinya JAPAN
1 Edwards, Colin UNITED STATES
1 Stoner, Casey AUSTRALIA
1 Bayliss, Troy AUSTRALIA

2006 Poles No Data Shows

From:

http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistic...tics/statsearch

 

[VHMP01]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mastodon @ Nov 10 2009, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>BREAKING NEWS

Internet poster suggests Pedrosa faster than Stoner and Lorenzo, world dies of laughter

Take it as you may, they are numbers, which most of the time give a good intake. Adding all of the statistics up is what may resemble closer truth. Still are statistics though!

Added Note: And please Mastodon, read the whole post before picking a single table to slash at it. Still bothers man, no harm intended or taken!

 

[Mick D]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J708 @ Nov 10 2009, 02:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ben is a legend waiting to happen, I hope

)

I got the idea Mick from the posts I've been reading lately. So many people on here are doubting what Spies might be capable of achieving next year, and only chose to compliment him when he did good this weekend. Give him the benefit of the fukin doubt for effs sake.

No I'm not too egocentric, but I know I've been smelling alot of doubt in the air.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Oct 27 2009, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow what's with you guys... you are either way to conservative, way too stupid, or have your heads jammed way deep up yer ........ BEN SPIES WILL: Rock you, shock you, mock you (Edward's computer geek thinks otherwise

). He will finish at least as well as Colie has this year and will crush every other "rookie". Simoncelli is like a ....... child in terms of race intelligence, experience, strategy, AND maturity compared to Ben... Those of you pinning your hopes are Marco (like him though I do) are ......' nuts.
Check the date of my post... Since your original post on the subject was in reply to inam's post of Nov.8th and stated, "As for Ben, this is only the beginning. Its quiet sad that you other than my self are the only one who believes he can run in the top 5 next year", I took mild offense... I thought I was clearly the biggest Spies-bopper here!!

 

[babelfish]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chockmoose @ Nov 10 2009, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keep your narcissistic drivel to yourself. Your Stoner worship is on a par with the M Jackson ..... that you wrote.
Every one is entitled to an opinion, does not mean that yours is worth more consideration than anyone else's.

You like to play (in your own mind) devils advocate, I see you as the playground bully.

Sure he is, just that most of us grew up and left the playground many years ago.

I've noticed that there are a few that claims some other rider were faster this year.
They have a hard time convincing anyone as long as Rossi took a dominating championship victory by closing that fight before the last race. He took the BMW award for the fastest qualifier and he got the most win this year by a margin. What more is there to say?
EDIT: I forgot to mention, together with the above:
most second places,
most fastest lap in race
most pole positions
Edit 2: I knew there were something missing:
most laps in first place pos.

He is a bit down on the number of 3rd places though

By every measurable parameter he were the fastest rider this year.
Ah, we have of course the single lap rider. The one who think he win points by being fastest on practice and warm up laps.
What are yo going to do J. Show how many Friday practices Stoner "won"?

And regarding the 2006 accident, the worst title defender since 2k, the hillbilly... let him rest in peace, the comparison is just too embarrassing. We are not dragging points into this J., just huge piles of them, and that is just to substantiate all the rest of the parameters. I'm sure the rest can see the difference.

 

[VHMP01]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Nov 11 2009, 03:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He is a bit down on the number of 3rd places though

No one can fill the top 3 positions altogether, might as well fill mostly the first, then the second and so on!

 

[Austin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Nov 11 2009, 03:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And regarding the 2006 accident, the worst title defender since 2k, the hillbilly... let him rest in peace, the comparison is just too embarrassing. We are not dragging points into this J., just huge piles of them, and that is just to substantiate all the rest of the parameters. I'm sure the rest can see the difference.
What accident are you referring to? The one when Valentino fell down with an eight-point-lead?

 

[Jumkie]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Nov 10 2009, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>... he really doesn't have a clue!

Hahahahahahahahaha!

Oh Lord, we found somebody dumber than the villiage ...... Talpa, ur getting schooled by SuperShit! Bahahahaha, how low can u go... Talk about getting a clue. Oh and once u realized ur mistake u tried to say, yeah i meant it another way. Omg, dude please stop, my sides are hurting from laughing. Awe man, this forum is freaking hilarious. God i love this place.