Track Invasion

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Jun 24 2008, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A question for the British.

Has this subject made the mainstream media in any way or has it been consigned to the sports pages?

Mind you, maybe I should ask whether Motorcycle racing gets mainstrem media cover in the UK first.





Garry

Most mainstream papers will have coverd the grand prix with about half a page, deep in the sports section. The daily mail headline was "Toseland bombs Redding festival", the track invasion wasn't mentioned at all and the coverage was only relevant to the British riders.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 24 2008, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Most mainstream papers will have coverd the grand prix with about half a page, deep in the sports section. The daily mail headline was "Toseland bombs Redding festival", the track invasion wasn't mentioned at all and the coverage was only relevant to the British riders.
My experience in the UK last year was that football/aka soccer consumed nearly all the sporting news, and a significant proportion of the general news, with little coverage of F1 (hamilton was leading the championship at the time) let alone motogp.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jun 24 2008, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My experience in the UK last year was that football/aka soccer consumed nearly all the sporting news, and a significant proportion of the general news, with little coverage of F1 (hamilton was leading the championship at the time) let alone motogp.

Thats exactly it, F1 gets reasonable coverage these days but motogp is insignificant.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 24 2008, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>you reckon ? dont believe all you read, may take the trip to pi next year .......


Ya wont get out of the airport dipshit.

Fair dinkum - It wouldn't matter if Stoner won the Nobel peace prize, you'd be saying he used electronics your hero doesn't have to win it. Face up to it ya jerk, you don't like him because he sometimes beats the man you love. Get off Vale's nuts and enjoy the racing for what it is.

As I've said before the best rider in the world has far and away the worst fans. You and your sidekick curve are amongst the worst I've ever encountered. Not one thread can continue into discussion without you two turning it into a slanging match. You're absolutely pathetic and why some people suck up your arse here is beyond me because your a ........ and you'll never be any different as long as your arse points to the ground.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Jun 24 2008, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As I've said before the best rider in the world has far and away the worst fans. You and your sidekick curve are amongst the worst I've ever encountered.

hey .... WAFFLE...I like many riders, not only the G.O.A.T.


Sidekick? I've always considered meself as a lone wolf, a rebel, a ronin, a masterless Samuri...never a side kick. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif


You know i'm sure barrymachines, pinky, and the rest of the ......NOTS would greet you as a side-kick with open legs i mean arms

I heard Scott Redding mentioned many times on Radio 1's news.

Feck all about the shame of the track invasion, however, looking briefly at Youtube to see if there was any footage of it..........(though this was footage from 2007 I am about to talk about) blame the Scots it wasn't us it was them that invade the track ha ha.

XX Liz

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Jun 24 2008, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ya wont get out of the airport dipshit.

Fair dinkum - It wouldn't matter if Stoner won the Nobel peace prize, you'd be saying he used electronics your hero doesn't have to win it. Face up to it ya jerk, you don't like him because he sometimes beats the man you love. Get off Vale's nuts and enjoy the racing for what it is.

As I've said before the best rider in the world has far and away the worst fans. You and your sidekick curve are amongst the worst I've ever encountered. Not one thread can continue into discussion without you two turning it into a slanging match. You're absolutely pathetic and why some people suck up your arse here is beyond me because your a ........ and you'll never be any different as long as your arse points to the ground.
actually i was one of the few back in 06 that had faith in casey, i took a dislike to him as did many because of his attitude on and off track and his bandwagon rossi hating tosser fans. i will dig up the threads if you like, long before you came on here so dont pretend to now me arsehole. and if you want to start naming my mate's i will name you lot. frizzle son, krusty, barrymachine all come running when anything neg is said about there little boy, where one shows up the rest are sure to follow. the predictable aussie quintet,that now .... all about anything other than stoner . i bet you sad ..... phone each other up for support when the dredid rossi fans are on your case you lot do your country nor your rider any favor's when you whine but its the aussie way.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 24 2008, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sidekick? I've always considered meself as a lone wolf, a rebel, a ronin, a masterless Samuri...never a side kick. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif

the image of chaz michael micheals (blades of glory) comes to mind

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Jun 24 2008, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the image of chaz michael micheals (blades of glory) comes to mind



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GO HEAD..drink it in

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Jun 24 2008, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Isn't it interesting how many seem to blame the rider for the actions of others for whom they (the rider) does not have any responsibility?

Here we have some (and other forums I might add) blaming VR for the actions of his fans with their track invasion and juvenile behaviour towards CS. Did VR ask the fans to behave in the manner described? No (mine you, is is likely embarrassed)

At another point, we have CS being criticised because his garage door gets closed after what may well be a perceived bad performance. Did CS shut the door himself? No (he may well have asked)

CS criticises the behaviour of some sections of the crowd and is labelled a whinger/whiner. Yet many post in forums that the behaviour did occur and was poor, but still CS is labelled a whinger.

VR last year commented on his tyres failing him. To some he whinged yet we had a great many who said he was validated to complain/comment because their was factual evidence to back it up (pictures of the tyres).

Both CS and VR's comments were valid yet many who defended VR's as fact now label CS as a whinger for stating fact.

IMO, CS has shown no more 'petulance' that many (most) highly strung athlete, and these guys (and girls) are very highly strung as you have to be to succeed at this level.

The shame is that the track invasion seems to be foremost in peoples minds, yet the Brits had a winner for the first time in years, the racing was quite good (I don't need to see close stuff), and the weather lasted. Yet we (and many others) seem focused on the track invasion.




Garry

+1

Focusing on what these guys say is first of all a waste of time.
I see that some here are looking for the honorable knight to be their idol, but I fail to see what that has to do with racing what so ever. I even can't really see what that has to do about being a fan. Racing is what these guys do for a living let them keep on with that.
What they say or not say are of little interest, maybe with the exception of exactly why things didn't work for them at that race. Substract the usual self preservating ........ and there might be some bits of information there. In addition it is amusing to watch the relations develop among the riders as that probably have some influence. But Wingning or not is of very little interest to me.
Only Biaggi has ever gotten to me because of that. The rest are ok. Some worse, some better but they are not pro PR people, they are +20 years old racers that has done little else but that their whole life.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 24 2008, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>



GO HEAD..drink it in


uhm...actually, i was just referring to the scene wherein he corrected the marshall at the competition saying he doesn't have coach or family, he works alone. that's why they call him the lone wolf...and CHAZ sticks to mind, not you

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Jun 24 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>uhm...actually, i was just referring to the scene wherein he corrected the marshall at the competition saying he doesn't have coach or family, he works alone. that's why they call him the lone wolf...and CHAZ sticks to mind, not you

yeah....sure

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 24 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah....sure

whatever

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Jun 24 2008, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>whatever

don't fight it baby...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 24 2008, 05:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>+1

Focusing on what these guys say is first of all a waste of time.
I see that some here are looking for the honorable knight to be their idol, but I fail to see what that has to do with racing what so ever. I even can't really see what that has to do about being a fan. Racing is what these guys do for a living let them keep on with that.
What they say or not say are of little interest, maybe with the exception of exactly why things didn't work for them at that race. Substract the usual self preservating ........ and there might be some bits of information there. In addition it is amusing to watch the relations develop among the riders as that probably have some influence. But Wingning or not is of very little interest to me.
Only Biaggi has ever gotten to me because of that. The rest are ok. Some worse, some better but they are not pro PR people, they are +20 years old racers that has done little else but that their whole life.

I agree with your post to a certain extent, although I am not reallly certain who or what post you are referring too because this thread has gon bonkers as well. But I think that in MOTOGP riders find that it is more than just racing. There is PR whether you like it or not. There is also a .... load of politics going on behind in the background. You may think that the riders are not involved with it, but I would suggest the contrary. After all they should have just as much say in rule changes, safety, etc because like you said they are the ones that are racing out there

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 24 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>don't fight it baby...

i am not fighting it ....... coz there's nothing

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jun 24 2008, 04:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I like the vincent black shadow stuff.
There's a paragraph or two about the Black Shadow in that one.

I found it: Sausage Creature
It was a 900 not a 916, my mistake.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Jun 24 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There's a paragraph or two about the Black Shadow in that one.

I found it: Sausage Creature
It was a 900 not a 916, my mistake.


I've read that before but never seen the pic, thanks for posting it, the guy was a freakin legend

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Jun 24 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There's a paragraph or two about the Black Shadow in that one.

I found it: Sausage Creature
It was a 900 not a 916, my mistake.
Just about everything the guy ever wrote was brilliant, stylish and highly humorous.
He often mentioned vincent black shadows including an extended thing about him passing himself off as a member of the vincent black shadow team for the baja race.

This is one of those threads that starts of good enough then goes ape .... far into ........, uhm, kinda like 99% of all threads…

I don’t even know where to start here. I guess with the thread topic. I wasn’t there obviously, and we get ...... coverage here in the States, so I can only go by what I’ve read, what people post, and what I’ve seen from track invasion in other countries like Italy. (I’ve never seen it here in the States, because we are actually civilized). Having said that, .... everybody who invaded the track while the riders were on it! If you climb on after the race is over, then that’s cool.

.... everybody who booed Stoner, don’t they know the only guy that should ever be booed under any and all circumstance is Pedrobot.

On to the subtopics

Subtopic1. Casey is no more a whiner than Rossi, and Rossi is no more a whiner than Casey, end of ....... story. Jesus H Christ, all these ....... guys do some form of whining or another (some of it legit, which BTW is actually NOT whining). Disclaimer: everybody whines except Hayden. He doesn’t whine because it’s actually against his religion, and he is faithful!

Subtopic 2. Aussies and Brits sound and look the same to me, so why they don’t get along is a mystery. Maybe its because they all want to be like Americans.

Subtopic 3. Blades of Glory was gay.

Subtopic 4. Who the .... is Vincent Black?


(Pete, I don't do the tongue & cheek disclaimer, if they get it great, if they don't, ....'em)