Top 5 motogp riders

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Nov 22 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No hay problema hermano, y muchas gracias por indicarme mis errores, tanto en información, como en preferencias por pilotos, y también en Inglés. De forma que yo pueda seguir aprendiendo siempre de gente como tu Austin. Saludos bro!
Cheers, V.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Nov 22 2009, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Here are [Is that how you start an Article?] the Top 5 MotoGP riders in the World [Redundant MotoGP and the World] that are in the Grid [If they are in MotoGP must be in the grid too] in the 2009 season [What… No comas?] based on the survey [Real data please] of panel of experts [Names?] that watches [Reruns or assists to races?] almost [Do they miss a few?] every MotoGP race every season [For 60 years?]. [What about the grammar? I am not complaining about Forum members spelling, but an Article from experts?].

1.) Valentino Rossi – No one can argue that Valentino Rossi is one of the greatest MotoGP rider in his era [Biaggi could be that one if his era was considered only 250cc] or maybe [Maybe is pretty statistical] of all time. He Won 9 championships including 7 in the premiere class of MotoGP [Is there a Premier Class that is not MotoGP?], one in 150cc [Pointed out already... 150?], and one in 250cc. Everybody agrees [I do, but not everybody in this Forum at least] that he is the best rider to date [Wasn’t it all time?].

2.) Casey Stoner – It is tough in the second place but every panel [How many panels?] of experts [With obviously no expertise] agree that Casey Stoner deserves to be in the second spot [Grammar again, please check] because he beat Valentino Rossi in 2007 [Two whole years ago, I am glad this experts watch almost all] season by a huge margin and could have fought the 2009 MotoGP title if he did not have his injuries [Injuries or was it illness?] that caused to miss him 3 races [Sounds like such an expert opinion].

3.) Jorge Lorenzo – Jorge Lorenzo is in 3rd spot becaused [becaused?] of his 2009 performance by fighting Valentino Rossi in every Grand Prix [Grammar, grammar, grammar]. Even though he did not beat Valentino in the Championship [Really?] he proved that he could be a world champion someday [Yeah, it is a possibility someday].

4.) Dani Pedrosa – Dani Pedrosa is in our 4th spot. [Period, I mean after the word spot] even though he did not have a competitive bike [What?] he is a consistent points scorer [Except when injured] and one [or is it Won? Could be Juan too?] a GrandPrix in the 2009 season and finished 4th [3rd as mentioned already] in the standings.

5.) Andrea Dovizioso – Andrea Dovizioso is in our 5th spot becaused [becaused again?] he is he won [Which one is it? He is or he won] a GrandPrix in a very tight [Tight, except when he wan] 2009 MotoGP season and ride against the top dog [Only one top dog?] of MotoGP [I deduct it is Premier Class and a World event from the data gathered in the experts article].

Holly crap!

No ....!!!

So many faults in just one article, I didn't read it carefully then.

i,m going to keep this for teaching my friends how to learn English. Thanks for analyzing these experts analyzes.

ok, here i go:

1. Rossi. many people see his mental strength somehow as "given" just becaus ehes had it in the past!!! first: he gets older, second: hes had VERY strong opponents. ok, casey out, but lorenzo? wow! I think without the "rossi-fan-glasses" you would have to give him no.1 for 2009.

2. stoner. yes, yes, yes..."""if""" ...blabla...disease....he """would"""...blablabla....further up than lorenzo i think. AND look at how strong he came back.

3. Lorenzo. really threatened rossi many times.

4. Edwards...anyone else see that 161 non-factory points worth more than the 234 FULL FAC.-Support points of pedromantic? and look how often edwards went down: zero (taking the de angelis incident away).

5. Pedr-oh-man (solid job, but not more.)

(6. Hayden for bringing up the duc in combination to his style from the back to solid 5th-level)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossiofsky @ Nov 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No ....!!!

So many faults in just one article, I didn't read it carefully then.

I am pretty sure, unlike me, a real ‘Expert’ could locate more errors!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossiofsky @ Nov 23 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i,m going to keep this for teaching my friends how to learn English. Thanks for analyzing these experts analyzes.

No sweat bro, if I could help a bit, I am glad I did… Though my point wasn’t really about English spelling or grammar, but more about a non ‘Experts’ analysis calling themselves ‘Experts’ with obviously no expertise (or something like that!)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PASSI @ Nov 24 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>4. Edwards...anyone else see that 161 non-factory points worth more than the 234 FULL FAC.-Support points of pedromantic? and look how often edwards went down: zero (taking the de angelis incident away).
That's an interesting point Pas... I never really thought of it that way... How would Collie have performed on the Repsol Honda? Hmmm... what if he been developing it, tailored to him, since winter testing pre '07... With that set of circumstances would Colin be an alien?

Its funny, but I don't see anyone with Edwards on their picks for next year's 'best-of-the-rest' either... Not much respect for the old guys.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Nov 24 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's an interesting point Pas... I never really thought of it that way... How would Collie have performed on the Repsol Honda? Hmmm... what if he been developing it, tailored to him, since winter testing pre '07... With that set of circumstances would Colin be an alien?

Its funny, but I don't see anyone with Edwards on their picks for next year's 'best-of-the-rest' either... Not much respect for the old guys.

weve got a managergame in a different forum where the NON factory rider get their points multiplicated with 1.5! this way i came up with this...

well for next year i dont see a big point why colin should be "worse" (i mean not as good) as 2009. the only thing could be a very strong melandri or spies that take him from his 5th down to 7th some races...

im one of those who still hopes he will take his first win in what i think will be his last year.

but in my opinion as i said: colin 4th best rider in the field in 2009 sonsidering age, bike and the fact he never really went down.

Top 5 riders of the world:

1. Nicky Hayden
2. Casey Stoner
3. Jorge Lorenzo
4. Troy Bayliss
5. Valentino Rossi

The simplest criterion for evaluating a rider is the number of wins.

Number of total GP wins among riders currently in activity:

Valentino ROSSI (7 titles) 77
Casey STONER (1 title) 20
Loris CAPIROSSI (0 titles) 9
Dani PEDROSA (0 titles) 8
Marco MELANDRI (0 titles) 5
Jorge LORENZO (0 titles) 5
Nicky HAYDEN (1 title) 3

But some of the above riders have raced much longer than others.
Restricting this classification to the last three years, we'd have:

Casey STONER (1 title) 20
Valentino ROSSI (2 titles) 19
Dani PEDROSA (0 titles) 6
Jorge LORENZO (0 titles) 5
The above gives us an idea of the real strength of Casey Stoner, who has won more GPs than Rossi in the 800cc era!

However Lorenzo began racing in MotoGP only in 2008, so it may be useful restricting the comparison to the last two years as well:

Valentino ROSSI (2 titles) 15
Casey STONER (0 titles) 10
Jorge LORENZO (0 titles) 5
Dani PEDROSA (0 titles) 4

So we should conclude that:

1st is Rossi.
2nd is Stoner (very close to Rossi actually).
3rd position goes to Lorenzo.
4th position to Pedrosa.
5th is Hayden
(or Dovi if we consider just the last two years).

Then, looking ahead, Spies is definitely going to change something in this classification

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Nov 24 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The simplest criterion for evaluating a rider is the number of wins.

Number of total GP wins among riders currently in activity:

Valentino ROSSI (7 titles) 77
Casey STONER (1 title) 20
Loris CAPIROSSI (0 titles) 9
Dani PEDROSA (0 titles) 8
Marco MELANDRI (0 titles) 5
Jorge LORENZO (0 titles) 5
Nicky HAYDEN (1 title) 3

But some of the above riders have raced much longer than others.
Restricting this classification to the last three years, we'd have:

Casey STONER (1 title) 20
Valentino ROSSI (2 titles) 19
Dani PEDROSA (0 titles) 6
Jorge LORENZO (0 titles) 5
The above gives us an idea of the real strength of Casey Stoner, who has won more GPs than Rossi in the 800cc era!

However Lorenzo began racing in MotoGP only in 2008, so it may be useful restricting the comparison to the last two years as well:

Valentino ROSSI (2 titles) 15
Casey STONER (0 titles) 10
Jorge LORENZO (0 titles) 5
Dani PEDROSA (0 titles) 4

So we should conclude that:

1st is Rossi.
2nd is Stoner (very close to Rossi actually).
3rd position goes to Lorenzo.
4th position to Pedrosa.
5th is Hayden
(or Dovi if we consider just the last two years).

Then, looking ahead, Spies is definitely going to change something in this classification

surely not the best way to see it considering e.g. how LONG capriex is riding!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PASSI @ Nov 24 2009, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>surely not the best way to see it considering e.g. how LONG capriex is riding!
I would put Capirex in the top five actually. He's the statesmen of the bunch, yes, but he hasn't lost his speed. Put him on a factory Yamaha today and I have every bit of confidence he would give the top three guys a run for their money.

i think there are no really bad riders in GP...everyone is there for a reason...

what U say is true: hed finish in 3rd place here and there for sure...but marco melandri or edwards...or.....woudl too on that material...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Nov 22 2009, 05:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We'll I don't get it, Levi... If we all waited for history to unfold WTF is the point of the forum in the off-season? What to post other than speculation... isn't that the point?

Yep this an opinion situation is writing in most forum threads! I like the fact-based threads better, thats my opinion