Ok, this sucked me into this thread. No, you spectacularly missed the point! And you did so because again you read far too much into it and made an incorrect assumption of his meaning. Juan's point is brilliant; read his post again, but try to arrive at a different conclusion, you'll see then why it's poignant.
Also, your first post in this thread (attempt to nanny) it may have sounded "harsh", but do yourself the favor and go back on the forum (think it might be Sepang thread) to read J4rn0's reaction when the utterly relevant incident of Sic's death at the place Rossi deliberately crashed out Marc was brought up. You'll find J4rn0 also had a strong reaction.
I honestly like J4rn0, but I disagree with much of his opinions. Walter, when I said to him, "I'm glad you're back" I said it to highlight he had gone ballistic during the VR debacle ( temporarily as insane as your average bopperbozzo) and acknowledged he was returning to his old self, a bopper with an ability to present well argued measured posts--but still 'wrong'!
Juan may have chose to forgo the niceties, which frankly is more honest, because he saw right through J4rn0's thread here, which did backfire. He is even 'surprised' why he is not getting traction with Michaelm and Gaz, two other members who compose well argued and measured posts--while being correct.
Walter, do you see the point? On logic, J4rn0's original post and premise logically falls on its face. It is wrong. Some have taken the tact of presenting a measured response while Juan took the more direct approach, both valid, and correct, but you took issue with the 'approach" (only) of one?
J4rn0's thread backfired. The problem with his premise saying that Marc, like Rossi deserved to be chastised is utterly wrong. Marc got away with .... it was well before this incident, however, it seems Marc has increasing been called on the carpet, from practically nothing when he almost murdered the Thai rider, to getting sanctioned license points on a slight touch upon Pedrosa at Aragon, to being actually disqualified at Phillip Island (for his team's "error" on a day old rule, thanx Povol, keeping in mind there was in fact confusion about it). Yeah maybe in past when he attempted murder did Marc deserve stiffer sanctions. But the notion Race Insurrection should have stepped in after VR went Grassy Knoll at Sepang is stupid and negates J4rn0's entire call for RD to step in based on credible intervention. That is, if the standard for RD to step in must be when a rider makes a credible grievance this one would utterly lower it to mere rivality!!!!!! (Repeat this last sentence please). Allow me to repeat my point here, to make it clear why J4rn0's premise is absolutely incorrect, he is calling for BOTH Rossi AND MARC to be sanctioned in an episode where only ROSSI did something spectacularly WRONG!
J4rn0 is calling for Race Direction to interven because Rossi made baseless accusations! Think about how J4rn0 wants the power of RD to be used! The standard J4rn0 now wants the organizers to use to take action is based on the perpetrator, a PERVERSION of the standard to which J4rn0's perspective on this whole episode has led him to believe.
This "logic" falls on its face. Juan saw right through that ..... I do like J4rn0 more than your average bopper, but he went straight psycho over the Simoncelli Sepang Rossi comment. Where he was actually quite wrong since it was extraordinarily relevant, VR deliberately crashes out rider at scene of friend being killed in a freak crash. It was rather just emotional, all caps to confirm. But this here, a call for Race Direction to get involved when Rossi makes accusations whereby most across the spectrum believed it to be a "typical Rossi 'mind game'"! This would make Race Direction even more of a tool for Rossi! It would lead to Race Direction admonishing riders based on Rossi's whims! It wasn't enough that Rossi went around 'TONGUE LASHING' Pedrosa and Iannone so as to effect their determination on the track, but now J4rn0 is asking for Race Direction to officially do the tongue lashing.
Do you see now how absurd the standard of intervention (that's what J4rn0 is calling for) would be lowered to serve Rossi's purpose?!
(Juan called straight ........ on it, with a lot less words I may add.)
