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Jumkie
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Interesting.  Thanks for the insight.  I have wished all hell on Paul Denning (as only an internet jockey such as myself could), now I will reconsider.  Do you remember the race where Capirossi was hurt in FP1 and Spies was there and was asked to substitute?  The weather was all crap and Spies thought better of it and passed.  Denning express a sentiment that Spies had bitched out, which I felt wasn't fair.  Since then I held a grudge (as only an internet jockey can).  I blamed Denning for many of Suzuki's woes (me being a Hopper fan and all) but after reading an article about Suzuki Co.  MO on racing, I admit, I thought perhaps I had been a bit harsh on Paul Denning.  (Of course, all from reading interview and videos and such, as would internet jockeys such as myself condemn these guys).  Now I feel like a .....


 


Met him a couple of times in 2011.


He always came across as an ok guy with the weight of the world on his shoulders.


Given they were about to abort GP.


Understandable ;)
 
Austin
3503011367603000

I think it makes more sense for all parties involved for Cal to go to Ducati than to go to Suzuki. As we've discussed, the Ducati is a career killer, but at least they've shown the ability to be competitive in the past—Capirossi's consistent results on the 990, Bayliss's 2003 season, Gibernau's 2006 season when he wasn't falling out of an ambulance. Whereas Suzuki haven't been competitive in the four-stroke era bar 2007 in the heat of Michelin's meltdown when Suzuki was shod by, surprise, Bridgestone. Normal service resumed the following season. Historically, Ducati is the better option. And if I'm Suzuki, I'd prefer to have someone spearheading my new factory operation who's worked in a factory team before, who knows what's expected in terms of feedback. (I'm not saying Crutchlow doesn't have the development chops, but he's never been in a position to use them bar 2010 when he and Toseland had the R1s in such a mess that it took Rossi's rehab test stint with the team to turn that bike around.)


 


THIS here is what I'm talking about!  Your take above sparks me to consider outside of my knee-jerk reactions.  I would think Ducati should be avoided like the black plague, but the way you put it above is spot on.  You have convinced me, at very least Ducati try to make changes and improve, where as Suzuki are happy to mid-pack.


 
Austin
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I still don't buy Toseland's claim that he'd been providing the same feedback as Rossi all year. Perhaps it's what he wanted to say, but I can't fathom a scenario in which Toseland clearly articulated those same ideas and was ignored.


 


Oddly enough, I can imagine a scenario where he was ignored.  Perhaps we should ask Regis Laconi about it? ;)


 
xx CURVE xx
3503601367612816

Toselands a ....... ... and his music sucks a sack of cocks..


Should have named the band Red Gate :D


 


He is not gay sir.  Its just how some pretty-boy-Brits act that sometimes seem homosexual to our Americans sensabilities.  Believe you me, Willski had me fooled too.
 
xx CURVE xx
3503601367612816

Toselands a ....... ... and his music sucks a sack of cocks..


Should have named the band Red Gate :D


 


What the fcuk you trying to say here!


Red Gate!?


We are only from the same county!


WTF!!! Dude???


 


Edit! 


If ever I do come to, or have the inclination to .... you it will be with either.


A special 32oz claw hammer or a shotgun!


Just so you know ;)
 
xx CURVE xx
3503601367612816

Toselands a ....... ... and his music sucks a sack of cocks..


Should have named the band Red Gate :D


:lol:  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:


 


I'm with you bro...can't even make the bridge without ending up on his ..... 


 


Crash in name crash by nature.


 


Then there was this....JT impersonates the very ..... Stone Sour...DNF


 


http://youtu.be/moYpWjt-5-0
 
Jumkie
3503651367614077

Interesting.  Thanks for the insight.  I have wished all hell on Paul Denning (as only an internet jockey such as myself could), now I will reconsider.  Do you remember the race where Capirossi was hurt in FP1 and Spies was there and was asked to substitute?  The weather was all crap and Spies thought better of it and passed.  Denning express a sentiment that Spies had bitched out, which I felt wasn't fair.  Since then I held a grudge (as only an internet jockey can).  I blamed Denning for many of Suzuki's woes (me being a Hopper fan and all) but after reading an article about Suzuki Co.  MO on racing, I admit, I thought perhaps I had been a bit harsh on Paul Denning.  (Of course, all from reading interview and videos and such, as would internet jockeys such as myself condemn these guys).  Now I feel like a .....


No need to feel like a .... Jum, Gary Taylor said how hard it was to work with the factory so i think Paul only inherited the same ....,Perhaps i was being a bit kind when i said he doesn't come across very well, 
 
Great song, I've added it to my playlist.  I love Toseland, one of Brits best ever.  I must be the only person in the world who thinks he got shafted.


 


 


Oh wait....no pun.
 
Jumkie
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Great song, I've added it to my playlist.  I love Toseland, one of Brits best ever.  I must be the only person in the world who thinks he got shafted.


 


 


Oh wait....no pun.


Fcuk you ;)
 
Jumkie
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THIS here is what I'm talking about!  Your take above sparks me to consider outside of my knee-jerk reactions.  I would think Ducati should be avoided like the black plague, but the way you put it above is spot on.  You have convinced me, at very least Ducati try to make changes and improve, where as Suzuki are happy to mid-pack.


Don't get me wrong, Ducati probably should be avoided like the plague. But when there aren't anymore seats in the show, and Ducati is paying a factory wage, there aren't many other options. I'm not saying Suzuki will never get it right, either, but I think history indicates that Ducati are more likely to be competitive.


If you've spent the past 12 months telling everyone how great you'd be if you had a factory ride, however, I would exhaust every option before signing up with either.
 
Jumkie
3503671367615683

THIS here is what I'm talking about!  Your take above sparks me to consider outside of my knee-jerk reactions.  I would think Ducati should be avoided like the black plague, but the way you put it above is spot on.  You have convinced me, at very least Ducati try to make changes and improve, where as Suzuki are happy to mid-pack.


 


 


Oddly enough, I can imagine a scenario where he was ignored.  Perhaps we should ask Regis Laconi about it? ;)


 


 


He is not gay sir.  Its just how some pretty-boy-Brits act that sometimes seem homosexual to our Americans sensabilities.  Believe you me, Willski had me fooled too.


This is 100% true,i was in a bar in Portland Oregon in 93 and doing my best to get in the pants of a local girl, after a while a guy who had been listening said i was a ... and he was gona shoot my ..., it took the girl a good few minutes to calm him down and explain it was my English accent  that made me sound gay.           true story.
 
@krop: heard that ducati told him to stay at home not because of the injury but because of his lacking motivation.

Any truth in that? Would be massive
 
thedeal
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This is 100% true,i was in a bar in Portland Oregon in 93 and doing my best to get in the pants of a local girl, after a while a guy who had been listening said i was a ... and he was gona shoot my ..., it took the girl a good few minutes to calm him down and explain it was my English accent  that made me sound gay.           true story.


It's only because one uses The Queens English in a proper manner old chap...
 
Austin
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Don't get me wrong, Ducati probably should be avoided like the plague. But when there aren't anymore seats in the show, and Ducati is paying a factory wage, there aren't many other options. I'm not saying Suzuki will never get it right, either, but I think history indicates that Ducati are more likely to be competitive.


If you've spent the past 12 months telling everyone how great you'd be if you had a factory ride, however, I would exhaust every option before signing up with either.


This
 
Willski
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It's only because one uses The Queens English in a proper manner old chap...


 


And pray do tell kind sir.


Where was one this weekend?


Not that you were missed or anything ;)
 
Willski
3509441367959838

It's only because one uses The Queens English in a proper manner old chap...


 


It was when he said he was going outside for a ...... it broke on the transatlantic language challenge.
 
cliché guevara
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@krop: heard that ducati told him to stay at home not because of the injury but because of his lacking motivation.

Any truth in that? Would be massive


 


Krop?  Anyone?


 


CG, do you remember the source of this tidbit?  Potentially legit inside source, or just a bored journalist stirring the ....?
 

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