The Desmo-Dovi thread

MotoGP Forum

Help Support MotoGP Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
They were going to put him on a satellite team with a supposedly full factory bike to accommodate Stoner. He enforced his contract to ride on the full factory team, which ran bikes for 3 riders in 2011, Stoner, Pedrosa and Dovi. Some were of the opinion he only got a real full spec factory bike when Pedrosa was injured.

Thanks, I was unaware!
So they essentially tried to drop him into LCR's (or another satellite) team with a full factory bike instead of giving him the Repsol garage/colors? Seems like they would have spent a little more time going over details like that before putting pen to paper :D
 
Stopped reading this far.
Get someone to read the rest of it to you.





Dovi is the greatest rider after Stoner.

Ok hes riding the Stoner designed, developed and built Duc.

And he is receiving personal tutillage from Stoner .....

But hes doing pretty good.

Who knows, maybe some day he will be a contender.
How many races battling directly with the best he has to won to be a contender?

You must be kidding for sure.

:)
 
Last edited:
Thanks, I was unaware!
So they essentially tried to drop him into LCR's (or another satellite) team with a full factory bike instead of giving him the Repsol garage/colors? Seems like they would have spent a little more time going over details like that before putting pen to paper :D

During his last year riding for Honda, the bike he was on had the Repsol colors - but it was repeatedly said that his bike was not up to the same specs as those of Stoner and Pedrosa. He was always just short of competitive, but oddly, when Pedrosa was out injured, Dovi's bike was noticeably faster and his results stronger. He was contracted to get a full out factory bike and support equal to that of Pedrosa, but Honda elected to buy him out of his contract and he went to Yamaha for one year before going to Ducati. Looking at his results now, I'd speculate that Dovi would have far outstripped Dani for wins and results.
 
During his last year riding for Honda, the bike he was on had the Repsol colors - but it was repeatedly said that his bike was not up to the same specs as those of Stoner and Pedrosa. He was always just short of competitive, but oddly, when Pedrosa was out injured, Dovi's bike was noticeably faster and his results stronger. He was contracted to get a full out factory bike and support equal to that of Pedrosa, but Honda elected to buy him out of his contract and he went to Yamaha for one year before going to Ducati. Looking at his results now, I'd speculate that Dovi would have far outstripped Dani for wins and results.

My thought as well in regard to Dovi vs Pedrosa; he certainly seems to be more durable for a start. In fact he was possibly a better bet for them than Stoner who retired after only 2 years, although he appears to be a late bloomer and might not have been ready to win a title back then and they got Marquez as soon as Stoner retired.
 
During his last year riding for Honda, the bike he was on had the Repsol colors - but it was repeatedly said that his bike was not up to the same specs as those of Stoner and Pedrosa. He was always just short of competitive, but oddly, when Pedrosa was out injured, Dovi's bike was noticeably faster and his results stronger. He was contracted to get a full out factory bike and support equal to that of Pedrosa, but Honda elected to buy him out of his contract and he went to Yamaha for one year before going to Ducati. Looking at his results now, I'd speculate that Dovi would have far outstripped Dani for wins and results.

Very interesting, is it believed they gave him a lesser machine to protect Dani, or simply to save money by giving him older/inferior machinery?
 
Might as well Craig.
1c5781a5b00e0732be81c24c07d19458.jpg
 
Very interesting, is it believed they gave him a lesser machine to protect Dani, or simply to save money by giving him older/inferior machinery?

Protect Dani. Repsol being a Spanish company are naturally more invested in a Spanish rider.
 
As has been previously mentioned, the problem arose due to the arrival of Stoner. Originally Honda had planned a three bike ‘superteam’ as they had run in the late nineties (Doohan, Okada and Criville…four if you include Gibernau on the NSR500V). This was dependent upon Red Bull who would provide the sponsorship for Casey’s machine, however, when they failed to commit to the project it was announced that Dovi’s services were no longer required. Problem was, the presence of a performance clause stating that if he was top five in the standings at the end of July, he automatically secured a ride in Honda’s factory team next season. As I recall, his manager Simone Batistella invoked this and his astute selection of a legal team meant that Honda faced the prospect of protracted litigation if they failed to honour the contract. Honda were thus obligated to accommodate Dovizioso, HRC launched a sustained but unsuccessful attempt to secure fresh investment to run a three-pronged factory attack in 2011 and certainly tapped Gresini to accommodate the rider on factory machinery - already destined for Simoncelli whilst HRC wanted to retain Ayoama on the satellite ride. Dovi was typically dignified and after the event magnanimous as ever. As I recall, he was given a 2011 factory RCV but lacking the support and resources availed to Stoner and Pedrosa throughout the year – so yes, it was essentially tantamount to little more than a satellite ride.
 
As has been previously mentioned, the problem arose due to the arrival of Stoner. Originally Honda had planned a three bike ‘superteam’ as they had run in the late nineties (Doohan, Okada and Criville…four if you include Gibernau on the NSR500V). This was dependent upon Red Bull who would provide the sponsorship for Casey’s machine, however, when they failed to commit to the project it was announced that Dovi’s services were no longer required. Problem was, the presence of a performance clause stating that if he was top five in the standings at the end of July, he automatically secured a ride in Honda’s factory team next season. As I recall, his manager Simone Batistella invoked this and his astute selection of a legal team meant that Honda faced the prospect of protracted litigation if they failed to honour the contract. Honda were thus obligated to accommodate Dovizioso, HRC launched a sustained but unsuccessful attempt to secure fresh investment to run a three-pronged factory attack in 2011 and certainly tapped Gresini to accommodate the rider on factory machinery - already destined for Simoncelli whilst HRC wanted to retain Ayoama on the satellite ride. Dovi was typically dignified and after the event magnanimous as ever. As I recall, he was given a 2011 factory RCV but lacking the support and resources availed to Stoner and Pedrosa throughout the year – so yes, it was essentially tantamount to little more than a satellite ride.

With all his accomplishments in racing, Dovi will go down in history as "The Dignified Guy". :p
 
When it gets hot, the gas pressure will increase. Problem?

I thought stability of the pressure would be important so the rebound etc would be predictable. I'm thinking you know otherwise. I'm all ears...:smartass:
 
Gas is just there to stop the oil getting all frothy. What's a bit of extra pressure gonna do to an incompressible fluid? Turn it into molasses?
 
Gas is just there to stop the oil getting all frothy. What's a bit of extra pressure gonna do to an incompressible fluid? Turn it into molasses?
That would be sweet.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
 
Dovi is the greatest rider after Stoner.

Ok hes riding the Stoner designed, developed and built Duc.

And he is receiving personal tutillage from Stoner .....

The prototype now used at Ducati is NOT designed by Stoner...Nor did he develop it.
He has only test rode it a handful of times and hasn't had a great input to it at all...
Stoner doesn't help with rider training and barely turns up to any GP races anymore.
The current prototype is a far cry what so ever to what stoner won his title on.
Gigi is mostly responsible for the new machine, Ducati sacked most of the "original " developers because they never wanted to listen to burgess or rossi on how to fix the old .... box.

Dovi is doing great and 99 will be finding his way very soon
 
The prototype now used at Ducati is NOT designed by Stoner...Nor did he develop it.
He has only test rode it a handful of times and hasn't had a great input to it at all...
Stoner doesn't help with rider training and barely turns up to any GP races anymore.
The current prototype is a far cry what so ever to what stoner won his title on.
Gigi is mostly responsible for the new machine, Ducati sacked most of the "original " developers because they never wanted to listen to burgess or rossi on how to fix the old .... box.

Dovi is doing great and 99 will be finding his way very soon

But you do believe Stoner is the greatest ever ...... seeing as you didnt dis that point :D
 
The prototype now used at Ducati is NOT designed by Stoner...Nor did he develop it.
He has only test rode it a handful of times and hasn't had a great input to it at all...
Stoner doesn't help with rider training and barely turns up to any GP races anymore.
The current prototype is a far cry what so ever to what stoner won his title on.
Gigi is mostly responsible for the new machine, Ducati sacked most of the "original " developers because they never wanted to listen to burgess or rossi on how to fix the old .... box.

Dovi is doing great and 99 will be finding his way very soon

Much credit to Gigi.

Not much if any credit to Rossi in regard to Ducati.
 

Recent Discussions

Recent Discussions

Back
Top