The Baby gets his Bottle..

"Fiat Yamaha Team finalises 2008 line-up

Following the conclusion of the 2007 season, Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd and Yamaha Motor Racing Srl are pleased to be able to confirm the final line-up of their 2008 Factory Team.

Seven-time World Champion Valentino Rossi and two time 250cc World Champion Jorge Lorenzo will contest the 2008 MotoGP World Championship as team-mates in the Fiat Yamaha Team.

Yamaha can also confirm its plan to run Valentino Rossi on Bridgestone tyres in 2008, while Jorge Lorenzo will be racing with Michelin tyres.

In order to facilitate the use of both Michelin tyres and Bridgestone tyres within the Yamaha Factory Team and to ensure confidentiality of data for each tyre company, Yamaha will organize separate rider pit boxes, but the Fiat Yamaha Team will continue to operate and race as one team.

As a consequence, the organization of the Team for 2008 will be as altered. "


The sook is causing FIAT Yamaha to turn their team upside down and inside out, will the switch be more trouble than its worth?

I hope it isn't true, but I have this awful feeling inside telling me that Ezepleta did give Bridgestone an ultimatum. I mean, wasn't bridgestone unwilling to supply more people up until now? Have they lost a couple of bikes, therefore opening a spot for Rossi?

If this is a political move, then it is a sad day for Moto GP.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mr. Shupe @ Nov 5 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]98849[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I hope it isn't true, but I have this awful feeling inside telling me that Ezepleta did give Bridgestone an ultimatum. I mean, wasn't bridgestone unwilling to supply more people up until now? Have they lost a couple of bikes, therefore opening a spot for Rossi?

If this is a political move, then it is a sad day for Moto GP.



I wouldn't worry too much ..... I wonder if next year all these changes can at all be a good thing for Rossi.

Next year we will know .... see how he performs then we will have to accept whatever comes. Maybe Rossi is pushing for a Duc. too??? But that wll be the end of him ..... I think even Ducati ... would not really want him ....

As it is perhaps Bridgestone have been forced to a suppy a rider they do not want to. It all smacks of "making them dig their own grave" .... if Rossi does not perform next year .... Bridgestone will be part blamed ..... and there are a lot of Rossi fans out there.

A big effort from Yamaha is required.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mr. Shupe @ Nov 5 2007, 01:54 AM) [snapback]98849[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I hope it isn't true, but I have this awful feeling inside telling me that Ezepleta did give Bridgestone an ultimatum. I mean, wasn't bridgestone unwilling to supply more people up until now? Have they lost a couple of bikes, therefore opening a spot for Rossi?

If this is a political move, then it is a sad day for Moto GP.


It would be a sad day indeed. But then again, when they said no, they had both Pedrosa and Rossi on their neck, trying to get their teams on stones. If they allowed one they had to take the other (team) and that would more or less be the end of michelin in MotoGP. When Rossi alone does the move that's a very different situation. It's not the end of Michelin and it's only one rider, not four. Pedrosa don't have the power to go to Stones alone, or force HRC for that matter.
All this is contributing reasons for what we see now, the question is if Ezepleta did more than discuss the matter with Bridgestone. I guess we'll never know for sure.

great news. rossi deserves everything he gets when he asks for it, for god sakes hes a 7 times world champion. leave him alone, hes the best every, he beat up sete gibernau with his eyes closed for 3 years.

in 2008 lets give him an 8 honorary 8th world title.

Of course its true and Moto Gp has and will take a hit for it.Rossi is a selfish Primma Donna that has put himself above his team and the sport and i can only hope that Michelin kicks his teeth in next year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(povol @ Nov 5 2007, 02:12 AM) [snapback]98858[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Of course its true and Moto Gp has and will take a hit for it.Rossi is a selfish Primma Donna that has put himself above his team and the sport and i can only hope that Michelin kicks his teeth in next year.


Hmmm Rossi is starting to sound a lot like Biaggi...
"a selfish prima donna blah blah blah...."

If this last race is any indication of the likes next year.... HRC on Michelins may be the team to beat.

The Honda is on par with the Ducati and the tyres are up to snuff. We will be in for a nice season...

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Back to Rossi... Rossi has sealed his fate. He will not win another Championship and next year will be a crushing defeat for his ego.
He will be on the tyres that he chose and the bike that chose and a situation that his tantrum created he will not win and it will be his fault.

Judging from 250gp races from a couple years back and all of the rookies will bring some heat next year. Not to forget that the D'Antin Dukes, Kawasaki and suzuki will all be nipping at Rossi's heals...

this website has turned unbelievable.. I think half of you complaining probably weren't fans of grand prix until rossi was winning and brought it more into the spotlight.

As for the tires I think they wont play as big a part as the bike.. I think yamaha have to really work hard to build a better package, to many failures

I think itll come down to what yamaha do not so much the tires

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<div class='quotemain'>
In order to facilitate the use of both Michelin tyres and Bridgestone tyres within the Yamaha Factory Team and to ensure confidentiality of data for each tyre company, Yamaha will organize separate rider pit boxes, but the Fiat Yamaha Team will continue to operate and race as one team.


Real ....... "TEAM" effort

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(alex29 @ Nov 5 2007, 07:55 AM) [snapback]98889[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Real ....... "TEAM" effort


has anyone considered the fact that Rossi also does not like Lorenzo and this is ideal having separate pits.

when he left honda, he said "at honda i was treated like a number, they dont care who wins, so long as one honda wins"

we know the real reson why he left honda, he wanted to be treated as special. so now horhey comes along, he may not feel special anymore so he insists on a seperate team from horhey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdK_7YJrZcM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Nov 5 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]98896[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
when he left honda, he said "at honda i was treated like a number, at yamaha i am family"

what a hypocrite


Would you not be angry with your bike breaking alot?

He does have a good feeling with Yamaha, they pay him more and they show respect when he wins unlike Honda.

What a bunch of sad pathetic full of sour grapes individuals this site seems to be attracting of late. While you all sit there and gripe about Rossi I wonder how many of you were watching Motogp in 1996 when he started out. And I can't help but wonder, as Krazy91 pointed out, how many of you would actually even know about or be interested in Motogp had not Valentino turned it into the massive crowd puller it is today. Because kid yourselves not, the man is largely responsible for today's popularity of what you call your favourite sport.
So what if he got the stones? For ....'s sake they're just another part of the bike. NOBODY peeped on here last year when Marco kicked up a fuss and switched to Bridgestones. Why? Oh yes...because all the ones around here kicking up a stink probably hadn't heard of Motogp last year! And as for all the Australian flagged members suddenly on this site, where were you when Casey was crashing every other race last season huh???
Why should Valentino get onto a bike with a shattered wrist only to have it die on him half way into a race? The man won 5 world championships, not counting the 2 in the lower classes, something that I've yet to see any other rider on the current grid do. If Motogp is your sport, then the very least Rossi deserves is some respect. If Stoner can list him amongst his heros, then surely his opinion is more worthy than that of anyone on here.
If my car new broke down twice in its first few months I would stamp my foot and cry and feel more than justified in doing so. So why is he such a prima donna for demanding machinery that is actually competitive and that actually works?? It's his career at stake. With 5 world championships under your belt, you would be pretty demanding too, I can assure you, and probably far less humble about it.
Shame on some of you for saying you love this sport!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bikergirl @ Nov 5 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]98909[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
What a bunch of sad pathetic full of sour grapes individuals this site seems to be attracting of late. While you all sit there and gripe about Rossi I wonder how many of you were watching Motogp in 1996 when he started out. And I can't help but wonder, as Krazy91 pointed out, how many of you would actually even know about or be interested in Motogp had not Valentino turned it into the massive crowd puller it is today. Because kid yourselves not, the man is largely responsible for today's popularity of what you call your favourite sport.
So what if he got the stones? For ....'s sake they're just another part of the bike. NOBODY peeped on here last year when Marco kicked up a fuss and switched to Bridgestones. Why? Oh yes...because all the ones around here kicking up a stink probably hadn't heard of Motogp last year! And as for all the Australian flagged members suddenly on this site, where were you when Casey was crashing every other race last season huh???
Why should Valentino get onto a bike with a shattered wrist only to have it die on him half way into a race? The man won 5 world championships, not counting the 2 in the lower classes, something that I've yet to see any other rider on the current grid do. If Motogp is your sport, then the very least Rossi deserves is some respect. If Stoner can list him amongst his heros, then surely his opinion is more worthy than that of anyone on here.
If my car new broke down twice in its first few months I would stamp my foot and cry and feel more than justified in doing so. So why is he such a prima donna for demanding machinery that is actually competitive and that actually works?? It's his career at stake. With 5 world championships under your belt, you would be pretty demanding too, I can assure you, and probably far less humble about it.
Shame on some of you for saying you love this sport!

well put bikergirl, agree with all of it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Nov 5 2007, 12:36 AM) [snapback]98846[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

The sook is causing FIAT Yamaha to turn their team upside down and inside out, will the switch be more trouble than its worth?

your a bit premature saying this ! the season has not even started so how do you no how it will work out ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Nov 5 2007, 01:41 AM) [snapback]98856[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
great news. rossi deserves everything he gets when he asks for it, for god sakes hes a 7 times world champion. leave him alone, hes the best every, he beat up sete gibernau with his eyes closed for 3 years.


you talk sense now , and there i was thinking you were a .... that new nothing..my bad

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bikergirl @ Nov 5 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]98909[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
What a bunch of sad pathetic full of sour grapes individuals this site seems to be attracting of late. While you all sit there and gripe about Rossi I wonder how many of you were watching Motogp in 1996 when he started out. And I can't help but wonder, as Krazy91 pointed out, how many of you would actually even know about or be interested in Motogp had not Valentino turned it into the massive crowd puller it is today. Because kid yourselves not, the man is largely responsible for today's popularity of what you call your favourite sport.
So what if he got the stones? For ....'s sake they're just another part of the bike. NOBODY peeped on here last year when Marco kicked up a fuss and switched to Bridgestones. Why? Oh yes...because all the ones around here kicking up a stink probably hadn't heard of Motogp last year! And as for all the Australian flagged members suddenly on this site, where were you when Casey was crashing every other race last season huh???
Why should Valentino get onto a bike with a shattered wrist only to have it die on him half way into a race? The man won 5 world championships, not counting the 2 in the lower classes, something that I've yet to see any other rider on the current grid do. If Motogp is your sport, then the very least Rossi deserves is some respect. If Stoner can list him amongst his heros, then surely his opinion is more worthy than that of anyone on here.
If my car new broke down twice in its first few months I would stamp my foot and cry and feel more than justified in doing so. So why is he such a prima donna for demanding machinery that is actually competitive and that actually works?? It's his career at stake. With 5 world championships under your belt, you would be pretty demanding too, I can assure you, and probably far less humble about it.
Shame on some of you for saying you love this sport!



Agree with some parts, disagree with others and will make the correction that Rossi did not start out in MotoGP but in 500cc Grands Prix, MotoGP came after at the commencement of the four stroke age.

I will agree with the comments that Rossi has been good (great even) for MotoGP, but it has also been great for Rossi and for me, no he has not made the sport what it is, but I have been watching since the days of Fast Freddie et al. To me he is just another rider, albeit a supremely talented one above many (most, but not IMO all) of his contempories past and present.

But, whether Rossi wants Stones or not it is his right to ask, the decision as to whether it happens however is that of his employer so blame them for saying 'yes sir'. Certainly, if Rossi made threats (ie. quitting) then this could rightly or wrongly (personal opinions) be seen as petulance. But, how often have we all wanted to 'put prssure' as it were on our own employers to give us a better deal or package, is this not what he has done?

The point (and gripes) surrounding his mechanical issues and your example are related but totally different, although I readily agree with the sentiments. A race engine is manifestly different to a standard car engine in terms of life, but when your livelihood relies on that car, you would bne might pissed if it meant time off work leading to a perception of poor performance by your employer.

And, to answer the comments regarding Aussies, I was not around in this forum last year to comment on Stoner's season which I thought was might impressive in terms of speed, far less so in consistency. I will however state now that I did not anticipate Stoner's performance and actually owe money as a result as I tipped CV to finish in front of him.

Overall though, whilst I have only been a member for a short time I too wonder at some of the comments that get posted and the reasons for such, but then I have no idea if these comments aret he norm as it does appear very common.

Ah well, have fun and don't let them get to you.




Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gaz @ Nov 5 2007, 10:13 AM) [snapback]98917[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Agree with some parts, disagree with others and will make the correction that Rossi did not start out in MotoGP but in 500cc Grands Prix, MotoGP came after at the commencement of the four stroke age.

I will agree with the comments that Rossi has been good (great even) for MotoGP, but it has also been great for Rossi and for me, no he has not made the sport what it is, but I have been watching since the days of Fast Freddie et al. To me he is just another rider, albeit a supremely talented one above many (most, but not IMO all) of his contempories past and present.

But, whether Rossi wants Stones or not it is his right to ask, the decision as to whether it happens however is that of his employer so blame them for saying 'yes sir'. Certainly, if Rossi made threats (ie. quitting) then this could rightly or wrongly (personal opinions) be seen as petulance. But, how often have we all wanted to 'put prssure' as it were on our own employers to give us a better deal or package, is this not what he has done?

The point (and gripes) surrounding his mechanical issues and your example are related but totally different, although I readily agree with the sentiments. A race engine is manifestly different to a standard car engine in terms of life, but when your livelihood relies on that car, you would bne might pissed if it meant time off work leading to a perception of poor performance by your employer.

And, to answer the comments regarding Aussies, I was not around in this forum last year to comment on Stoner's season which I thought was might impressive in terms of speed, far less so in consistency. I will however state now that I did not anticipate Stoner's performance and actually owe money as a result as I tipped CV to finish in front of him.

Overall though, whilst I have only been a member for a short time I too wonder at some of the comments that get posted and the reasons for such, but then I have no idea if these comments aret he norm as it does appear very common.

Ah well, have fun and don't let them get to you.
Garry

actually he started out in 125gp if you want to be pedantic.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Nov 5 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]98919[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
actually he started out in 125gp if you want to be pedantic.


Totally correct Roger but I took BikerGirls post to be aimed at the 'Premier Class' and therefore took a little licence.

ANd yes, whilst it may be pedantic it is a personal bugbear of mine that people refer to the 500 days as MotoGP which they were not.

And yes, I need to get over it.





Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gaz @ Nov 5 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]98922[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Totally correct Roger but I took BikerGirls post to be aimed at the 'Premier Class' and therefore took a little licence.

ANd yes, whilst it may be pedantic it is a personal bugbear of mine that people refer to the 500 days as MotoGP which they were not.

And yes, I need to get over it.
Garry


500gp, the good old day's

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Nov 5 2007, 10:40 AM) [snapback]98927[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

500gp, the good old day's



Yep, still miss them and always will.

Thank god for video, DVD and the net to track down footage.





Garry