Tech 3 Yamaha nearing James Toseland decision

I just don't see how JT can keep his seat. In fact, I don't think he'll have a ride at all next season.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (levigarrett @ Aug 22 2009, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I just don't see how JT can keep his seat. In fact, I don't think he'll have a ride at all next season.
If you mean in GP, then I agree.

Meantime, Yamaha Italia is a distinct possibility IMO. Ten Kate would also spearhead the clamor to get him back in the saddle of a superbike.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Aug 23 2009, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If you mean in GP, then I agree.

Meantime, Yamaha Italia is a distinct possibility IMO. Ten Kate would also spearhead the clamor to get him back in the saddle of a superbike.

Yes, I meant GP.

MotoGP, the Spanish/Italian cup. Hahaha

I had hi hopes for JT. Dissapointed.

Now all i hope for is that the rumors are true and Nicky gets the factory Yamaha.

I think it is BS that motogp needs a rider from most every part of the motorcycle world. When will dorna make us painfully watch a Chinese rider in the back of the pack to fill their quota? I could careless if the whole grid is from just one country (even china lol) as long as they all deserve it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Aug 23 2009, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If you mean in GP, then I agree.

Meantime, Yamaha Italia is a distinct possibility IMO. Ten Kate would also spearhead the clamor to get him back in the saddle of a superbike.

Agree with you there Arra...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Aug 23 2009, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Meantime, Yamaha Italia is a distinct possibility IMO. Ten Kate would also spearhead the clamor to get him back in the saddle of a superbike.


Isn't it interesting that a large number of silly season antics rest on two people.

In MotoGP they rest on Lorenzo and where he will go before other pieces start to fall and become clearer, whilst in WSBK the same applies to Spies and whether he goes to MotoGP.

Part of me fully expects a straight swap Spies for Toseland but then I also feel that Vermuelen could be a show at that ride should he not get an MGP satellite ride somewhere.






Gaz

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Aug 23 2009, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Isn't it interesting that a large number of silly season antics rest on two people.

In MotoGP they rest on Lorenzo and where he will go before other pieces start to fall and become clearer, whilst in WSBK the same applies to Spies and whether he goes to MotoGP.

Part of me fully expects a straight swap Spies for Toseland but then I also feel that Vermuelen could be a show at that ride should he not get an MGP satellite ride somewhere.






Gaz
or, it could pan out that JT and CV end up on the yamaha italias and Spies goes to Tech3 with Sykes ending up on a privateer team (Stiggy etc).
that could make for an interesting team dynamic no?

If Dorna are that keen to retain JT in the championship and are prepared to pay Tech 3 to do it; then if Lorenzo goes to Ducati; surely it makes it more likely that Edwards will return to Fiat Yamaha; with Spies coming into to Tech 3 to <strike>partner</strike> beat JT?

Don't know where this would leave Hayden though...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Aug 23 2009, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think it is BS that motogp needs a rider from most every part of the motorcycle world. When will dorna make us painfully watch a Chinese rider in the back of the pack to fill their quota? I could careless if the whole grid is from just one country (even china lol) as long as they all deserve it.

I used to think it was BS, but the more I learn about the sport, the more necessary I think it is for Dorna to vary the passports of the riders involved.

Britain, US, Australia, Italy, Spain, Japan (and a few other nations) all have motorcycling cultures that can produce world championship material. Unfortunately, the 4 stroke era has been so costly that sponsors now have almost as much say as the manufacturers. The sponsors who use motogp for marketing hail mainly from Spain and Italy; but unlike many of the global brands (monster, red bull, etc), they aren't trying to grow their brand in foreign markets as much as they are trying to grow their brands at home. As a result, they have a nationalistic obsession with the riders who they sponsor.

For the most part, riders with raw talent but no political or financial backing end up in second tier teams. Whether or not they find themselves in a championship winning situation at some point in their career seems to be largely a function of extenal factors beyond the rider's control (think Casey Stoner). The last American rider to get boosted into MotoGP with serious political/financial backing was Nicky Hayden. The "luck" he used to win the title in 2006 was comprised mainly of a tenacious work ethic, raw talent, and financial support from Honda NA. If more riders had that kind of support, I think MotoGP would be healthier and have a wider international appeal.

Lack of diversity is present before the riders every get to MotoGP so I'm confident that Dorna are keen to build healthy international racing scene in the Moto2 series.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 23 2009, 06:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>MotoGP, the Spanish/Italian cup. Hahaha

I had hi hopes for JT. Dissapointed.

Now all i hope for is that the rumors are true and Nicky gets the factory Yamaha.

It would be a good move for Hayden, I think he would really do well on the Yam,





just think of the arguments we could have then Jumkie! I miss the good old days.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ Aug 23 2009, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It would be a good move for Hayden, I think he would really do well on the Yam,





just think of the arguments we could have then Jumkie! I miss the good old days.
Jt to the factory yam and hayden back to the pig farm jk they can always use a good caretaker in the paddock

And this from Toseland himself

If tech 3 has spies replace me, it'll put them in a tight place with having two Americans on one team, so if spies decides to come to Motogp you will see him replace Colin"

"It really is on spies right now to make the choice, not anyone else's"

Must be nice,KNOWING your passport means more than results. If Edwards loses his ride after totally out performing his teammate,i might just boycott GP. Just kidding,but it would drop a notch in my interest scale.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Sep 1 2009, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And this from Toseland himself

If tech 3 has spies replace me, it'll put them in a tight place with having two Americans on one team, so if spies decides to come to Motogp you will see him replace Colin"

"It really is on spies right now to make the choice, not anyone else's"

Must be nice,KNOWING your passport means more than results. If Edwards loses his ride after totally out performing his teammate,i might just boycott GP. Just kidding,but it would drop a notch in my interest scale.

And why is all of this happening? B/c Tech 3 can't afford to pay Yamaha's lease prices and b/c there aren't enough bikes on the grid to keep the best privateer rider in the sport. The 800s have gutted prototype racing.

I don't blame James or the rider passport subsidies, I blame the damn fools who've shot themselves in the foot with the stupid displacement changes.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Sep 1 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hes out performed JT this yr for sure,will yam take into account colins age he'd be 36 at the start of next season,and this yr is his 7th hes been riding motogp and 10 podiums i think ? maybe yam think colins had a good go at it and his times up.?
Dont get me wrong,Colin has had his chances, and might just be the recipient of passport favoritism himself at times in his career. In this case,he has dominated his teammate and is having one of his best years ever. If winning, or being the best of the rest is NOT the primary concern of a race team,there is something seriously wrong with the sport.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Sep 1 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And this from Toseland himself

If tech 3 has spies replace me, it'll put them in a tight place with having two Americans on one team, so if spies decides to come to Motogp you will see him replace Colin"

"It really is on spies right now to make the choice, not anyone else's"

Must be nice,KNOWING your passport means more than results. If Edwards loses his ride after totally out performing his teammate,i might just boycott GP. Just kidding,but it would drop a notch in my interest scale.
It is due to JT being jealous and not able to kick the old mans .... Plus he knows that Ben will kick his ... to. Shame about JT cause in the beginning I thought he was ready for the GP challenge. Guess he isn't or at least for a Yamaha. He might as well try a Ducati at this point. What does he stand to lose now?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Sep 1 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And this from Toseland himself

If tech 3 has spies replace me, it'll put them in a tight place with having two Americans on one team, so if spies decides to come to Motogp you will see him replace Colin"

"It really is on spies right now to make the choice, not anyone else's"

Must be nice,KNOWING your passport means more than results. If Edwards loses his ride after totally out performing his teammate,i might just boycott GP. Just kidding,but it would drop a notch in my interest scale.
i reckon spies to tech3 with colin. jt will go to hayate with a yam engine. dorna want jt to stay cos hes english and yam will provide the dorna run team with an engine cos they want jt to stay in some capacity.