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i would love to see team kr stay but only if 5hey can have the bits to make them competitive i.e top 10. if not then they should go to where then can have a competitive season.

on a side note/ all he racing deals with foggy seem to fall through before they get off the ground. wonder why. i recon its because he is an ....... so they .... him off.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Oct 5 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]93878[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
on a side note/ all he racing deals with foggy seem to fall through before they get off the ground. wonder why. i recon its because he is an ....... so they .... him off.


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I reckon you have that spot on! Imagine riding for him?!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Oct 5 2007, 08:19 AM) [snapback]93878[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
on a side note/ all he racing deals with foggy seem to fall through before they get off the ground. wonder why. i recon its because he is an ....... so they .... him off.

Too true!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JohnnyKnockdown @ Oct 5 2007, 01:43 AM) [snapback]93881[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
So Honda won't supply them with engines.
Ok so what's changed from this year?


There had been attempts by King Kenny to get Ducati engines, mostly likely 2007 spec, to run in their bikes...

Maybe Ducati decided it was a good idea after all....no harm in giving away '07 D'Antin's and Capirossi's engines since they were hardly used this year
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MigsAngel @ Oct 5 2007, 12:51 AM) [snapback]93896[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
There had been attempts by King Kenny to get Ducati engines, mostly likely 2007 spec, to run in their bikes...

Maybe Ducati decided it was a good idea after all....no harm in giving away '07 D'Antin's and Capirossi's engines since they were hardly used this year
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I hope this is true. I figured Ducati would be more than happy to sell, rather than scrap the 07 bits. What a win-win for Roberts. This years Ducati engine will probably still be better than most 08 engines.

Plus, when you think about the possibilities of developing that marvelous lump outside the confines of a relatively antiquated chassis design, the possibilities seem endless.

If KR can get the rubber, and get the chassis right, they might be really really good next year.

I reckon KRJR will come back if the bike is capable of scoring podiums again.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Oct 4 2007, 11:19 PM) [snapback]93878[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>


on a side note/ all he racing deals with foggy seem to fall through before they get off the ground. wonder why. i recon its because he is an ....... so they .... him off.



yep too right he is. me and dad went to meet him at the local bike store few weeks back, all he did was grunt replies back, was texting most of the time and couldn't give a toss when a lady in front of us showed him a pic of her and him, when he was just starting to make a name for himself. she was real excited, he just looked at it, didn't even speak, signed it and tossed it back to her.

me and dad have now decided that anyone who ever said he was a tosser in the past, are absolutely right. I'm glad his mv deal fell through, hopefully someone nicer will get the deal like kenny senior
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Oct 4 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]93878[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i would love to see team kr stay but only if 5hey can have the bits to make them competitive i.e top 10. if not then they should go to where then can have a competitive season.

Totally agree Rog. I love Team Roberts, but its a heart break to see them roll around in last place. Those of us who have watched MotoGP at least a year or more know that they are better than this. This has been a bad bad year for them. Honda has left them out to dry trying to deal with their own failures of development.

King Kenny has the knowledge, passion, and determination to make a successful run but is always hampered by the lack of support they get from suppliers. Not just lack of support from engine and tire suppliers, but more importantly, lack of support from DORNA. King Kenny has said it is difficult to get sponsorship money when they don't at least provide a few coverage clips of the back markers. Marketing managers of potential sponsorship companies don't see the value in placing their brand on a bike that never gets a TV clip. Sure we all like to see the action at the front, but as I've said before, DORNA could learn a thing or two from NASCAR, who market every team and give them a few clips to promote and provide exposure for the many sponsor companies. Its not a mystery why over 40 teams in NASCAR have sponsors ranging from candy like M&Ms to Viagra!

As far as expanding to a two rider team, well, they said it before, but it didn't happen due to funds. So I'll believe it when I see it.

As I read the article, I couldn’t help but think about other failed ventures like Ilmor. DORNA, its seems, doesn’t see the value in having independent teams on the grid. I have been on the fence lately about the control tire proposal, but after reading this article, it convinced me that a change in tires rules are needed to encourage parity, if not a control tire imposed.

Team Roberts has been lucky that there riders haven’t had any major crashes, which surely would have bankrupt the team, but I do hope as Roger said, that if they can’t make it in MotoGP, that they move to somewhere they can be welcome, appreciated, and competitive.
 
Of all the constructors Ducati would need to sell the engines more than any of the others ... plus, I guess now they have some "cred."
 
or how about getting an amalgamation of KR and Ilmor?

KR do the chassis and Ilmor do the engines? would have a slightly wider base of interest for the sponsors too. and hopefully the ilmor would be competitive enough...

dream scenario i know but would be good to get a real independant team in the championship that could mix with the big boys....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BigAl @ Oct 5 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]93967[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>


KR do the chassis and Ilmor do the engines?

I don't see why not. Hell both are interested in MotoGP racing right?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Oct 5 2007, 09:40 PM) [snapback]93970[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I don't see why not. Hell both are interested in MotoGP racing right?


and both can develop the parts of the bike they are good at....

the team name would be interesting......KRilmor? IlmorKR?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BigAl @ Oct 5 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]93974[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
and both can develop the parts of the bike they are good at....

the team name would be interesting......KRilmor? IlmorKR?

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be great if they did join forces.. i like team kilmore
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Oct 5 2007, 04:41 PM) [snapback]93976[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i like team kilmore

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u beat me too it!!!

remember this is not set in stone so i'll believe it when i see a 2 man squad lining up on the grid at the 1st race of 08! but here's hoping!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Oct 5 2007, 12:51 PM) [snapback]93931[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
<span style="font-family:Arial BlackTotally agree Rog. I love Team Roberts, but its a heart break to see them roll around in last place. Those of us who have watched MotoGP at least a year or more know that they are better than this. This has been a bad bad year for them. Honda has left them out to dry trying to deal with their own failures of development.

King Kenny has the knowledge, passion, and determination to make a successful run but is always hampered by the lack of support they get from suppliers. Not just lack of support from engine and tire suppliers, but more importantly, lack of support from DORNA. King Kenny has said it is difficult to get sponsorship money when they don't at least provide a few coverage clips of the back markers. Marketing managers of potential sponsorship companies don't see the value in placing their brand on a bike that never gets a TV clip. Sure we all like to see the action at the front, but as I've said before, DORNA could learn a thing or two from NASCAR, who market every team and give them a few clips to promote and provide exposure for the many sponsor companies. Its not a mystery why over 40 teams in NASCAR have sponsors ranging from candy like M&Ms to Viagra!

As far as expanding to a two rider team, well, they said it before, but it didn't happen due to funds. So I'll believe it when I see it.

As I read the article, I couldn’t help but think about other failed ventures like Ilmor. DORNA, its seems, doesn’t see the value in having independent teams on the grid. I have been on the fence lately about the control tire proposal, but after reading this article, it convinced me that a change in tires rules are needed to encourage parity, if not a control tire imposed.

Team Roberts has been lucky that there riders haven’t had any major crashes, which surely would have bankrupt the team, but I do hope as Roger said, that if they can’t make it in MotoGP, that they move to somewhere they can be welcome, appreciated, and competitive.


Dorna is too freaking near-sighted in their approach to the promotional aspect of racing. Check this quote from S-TV regarding viewership issues in Europe in the wake of Stoners succsess and Rossi and Pedrosa's lack of it.


"Dude, Where Did the TV Audience Go?

Suddenly TV audience figures took a nosedive in the two most important European markets. In Italy, where MotoGP regularly claimed a huge 40% share, often beating even F1’s numbers, the audiences fell to 25%. Now 25% is a huge share in any European market, but not when you are accustomed to 40%. And in Spain where Dorna had seen shares as high as 35% at the beginning of the season, boring races with neither Pedrosa or Rossi at the sharp end of the field meant that during a couple of primetime races the share fell as low as 20%.

It was especially galling that Tele5 of Spain, owned by the same Mediaset giant that owns Tele5 of Italy, was now getting audiences in the 14% to 20% range for World Superbike, and on a couple of occasions when the opening race of the World Superbike Sunday program ran just before the F1 broadcast on Tele5, SBK managed to hold a 26% share. Of course this was only because a lot of viewers were standing by, enjoying the bikes while they waited for the F1 pre-race show... but that kind of viewer numbers produce new fans."

<span style="font-family:ImpactWhat the hell is Dorna going to do when Rossi Retires? Maybe have Pedrosa ride around in a Rossi mask?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Keshav @ Oct 6 2007, 02:04 AM) [snapback]93993[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Dorna is too freaking near-sighted in their approach to the

"Dude, Where Did the TV Audience Go?

Suddenly TV audience figures took a nosedive in the two most important European markets. In Italy, where MotoGP regularly claimed a huge 40% share, often beating even F1’s numbers, the audiences fell to 25%. Now 25% is a huge share in any European market, but not when you are accustomed to 40%. And in Spain where Dorna had seen shares as high as 35% at the beginning of the season, boring races with neither Pedrosa or Rossi at the sharp end of the field meant that during a couple of primetime races the share fell as low as 20%.



just clearin out all the fan boys thats all... only proper gp fans left now.
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