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Stoner had the same arm-pump issue last year, and he said it was fixed without surgery , now he's going to use the same treatment, obviously its time to try a different treatment. Is it time to go under the knife?
 
Just might be. Probably should have done it in the off season.
 
You seem to be a very violent person.



Is this your normal response to displeasure??
 
Why is it obvious that he needs a different treatment.? The last time it occured was a long time ago, so his previous "treatment" would seem to have been quite effective. Surgery should be left as a last option once the season has started.
 
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It might have been the first time he felt it this year, it's not like he would be preparing for it if he hadn't experienced it until this point. He probably wasn't expecting to have a big problem with chatter either, he'll take care of himself and still be the favorite for the title. Arm pump is something these guys have to live with, it just happens, some of them have had multiple surgeries for it.

eta you sound like you should be more worried that he's running the #1 plate lmao
 
FFS, have you (the OP) read the various interviews and reports at all?



In many it is reported that Stoner has admitted that he was wearing new gloves due to his older pair finally wearing out during practice and that he (yes Stoner) had not yet bedded in the gloves and as such they were a little tight. In the reports it is alluded that the new gloves played a part in the 'arm pump' as did the chatter experienced.



How he fixes the problem is irrelevant and as VR himself has said when he experienced arm pump, surgery is a last resort.



And as an aside before people jump 'up and down' about the 'glove thing', apparently a number of riders have over years had similar issues and now it is reported that some (Spies was used as the example) have crew members wear their new gloves off and on for a day or so to loosen them up.



IMO, I had not really thought of the possible issues caused by new, tight and harder leather gloves but in hindsight I do know the difference and time it takes to get used to my own gloves, and my ability on a bike is about equal to an earthworm so certainly for these guys the little things are far more impacting.
 
I am no doctor, but the little research I did tells me that surgery is the only proper solution. Other solution appear to be temporary. I am happy to go with Gaz's theory about his new gloves being the culprit, and perhaps its just a one off[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] issue.[/font]
 
I am no doctor, but the little research I did tells me that surgery is the only proper solution. Other solution appear to be temporary. I am happy to go with Gaz's theory about his new gloves being the culprit, and perhaps its just a one off[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] issue.[/font]



And yet StOWNer himself is not worried for the future, as he has dealt with it in the past with a procedure that is successful to him .................... surgery free .......



let me see .... if I had the option



do that successful non-invasive procedure again



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have the op like the bopper on the net said





whatever would I do ???????



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I am no doctor, but the little research I did tells me that surgery is the only proper solution. Other solution appear to be temporary. I am happy to go with Gaz's theory about his new gloves being the culprit, and perhaps its just a one off[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] issue.[/font]

This is not my area of expertise, although I know some leading sports medicine physicians and orthopaedic surgeons I could ask about it. I looked up a few things as well and it would appear arm pump as opposed to lower leg compartment syndrome in runners is not well studied and neither the surgical nor the conservative management of the condition are well validated. Conservative measures which some advocate include muscle re-training with light weights (presumably because heavy weights increase muscle bulk) and habituation to the lactic acidosis which is a product of the impaired blood supply and venous return; if the latter is so making longer runs might help. On general principles surgery probably shouldn't be the first resort as bunyip and barry say.
 
CS should stay at home and play with his newborn baby girl...

It's tough to defend the No.1 title with JLO and Yamaha at their level best this year. No excuse and CS please do not push the bike beyond the limit...See, you got the "Arm Pump" problem...
 
CS should stay at home and play with his newborn baby girl...

It's tough to defend the No.1 title with JLO and Yamaha at their level best this year. No excuse and CS please do not push the bike beyond the limit...See, you got the "Arm Pump" problem...

There seem to be quite a few people desperate for stoner to have had tyre problems at the end of the Qatar race. Since this is counterbalanced by also quite a number still death-riding valentino I guess there is no great cause for complaint.



What is definitely true is that he had superior pace early in the race (close to half a second a lap on the field) as has been said on the race thread, so either he ran out of tyres, ran out of fuel, ran out of physical endurance as he says, or a combination of 2 or more of these.



I am keeping an open mind, as you wouldn't expect him to admit to running out of tyres. I guess events will provide the proof, particularly if he continues to have relatively poor results by his standards not improved by addressing the chatter problem or treating the putative arm-pump. I could point out that he did have a few races like this last year from which similar conclusions were hastily drawn, but this did not stop him winning 10 other races.
 
There seem to be quite a few people desperate for stoner to have had tyre problems at the end of the Qatar race. Since this is counterbalanced by also quite a number still death-riding valentino I guess there is no great cause for complaint.



What is definitely true is that he had superior pace early in the race (close to half a second a lap on the field) as has been said on the race thread, so either he ran out of tyres, ran out of fuel, ran out of physical endurance as he says, or a combination of 2 or more of these.



I am keeping an open mind, as you wouldn't expect him to admit to running out of tyres. I guess events will provide the proof, particularly if he continues to have relatively poor results by his standards not improved by addressing the chatter problem or treating the putative arm-pump. I could point out that he did have a few races like this last year from which similar conclusions were hastily drawn, but this did not stop him winning 10 other races.



Desperate is right.....16th consecutive podium after leading the majority of the race is a really poor effort Casey. Everyone expects you to win every race these days and you let us all down badly.
 
There seem to be quite a few people desperate for stoner to have had tyre problems at the end of the Qatar race. Since this is counterbalanced by also quite a number still death-riding valentino I guess there is no great cause for complaint.



What is definitely true is that he had superior pace early in the race (close to half a second a lap on the field) as has been said on the race thread, so either he ran out of tyres, ran out of fuel, ran out of physical endurance as he says, or a combination of 2 or more of these.



I am keeping an open mind, as you wouldn't expect him to admit to running out of tyres. I guess events will provide the proof, particularly if he continues to have relatively poor results by his standards not improved by addressing the chatter problem or treating the putative arm-pump. I could point out that he did have a few races like this last year from which similar conclusions were hastily drawn, but this did not stop him winning 10 other races.



It isn't rocket science Michael.

Almost all the posts stating he burnt his tyres & that he is lying about arm pump, come from supporters of a certain Italian who does impressions of a Ducati rider.
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It isn't rocket science Michael.

Almost all the posts stating he burnt his tyres & that he is lying about arm pump, come from supporters of a certain Italian who does impressions of a Ducati rider.
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Not very good ones either....best stick to doing Bozo impressions from now on - at least he was talented at that.
 
There seem to be quite a few people desperate for stoner to have had tyre problems at the end of the Qatar race. Since this is counterbalanced by also quite a number still death-riding valentino I guess there is no great cause for complaint.



What is definitely true is that he had superior pace early in the race (close to half a second a lap on the field) as has been said on the race thread, so either he ran out of tyres, ran out of fuel, ran out of physical endurance as he says, or a combination of 2 or more of these.



I am keeping an open mind, as you wouldn't expect him to admit to running out of tyres. I guess events will provide the proof, particularly if he continues to have relatively poor results by his standards not improved by addressing the chatter problem or treating the putative arm-pump. I could point out that he did have a few races like this last year from which similar conclusions were hastily drawn, but this did not stop him winning 10 other races.





I could still remember before my own eyes how StoWner broke JLO heart when he overtook at 180MPH at Laguna Seca , and how Stoner demoralized JLO at Phillips Island with superior bike and riding skills...Casey always rode beyond the limit-that's giving problem to him..



It is still early in the championship but it is good to start the season with Casey, Pedrosa and JLO all have the chance to win the championship this year

 

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