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Dont be to harsh on the lad curve. He has never had a real job on regular pay. A family to feed and a mortgage to pay. You cant expect him to realise how lucky he is when he has never experianced adulthood like the rest of us.

Would you expect Paris Hilton to understand the single mum working on the supermarket checkout ?

Have you ever read the Stoner's story,. Nothing in it remotely compares to the life of Paris Hilton, who was literally born with a billion dollar spoon in her mouth. One worked his ... off to get to where he is, the other, well, not so much.
 
Have you ever read the Stoner's story,. Nothing in it remotely compares to the life of Paris Hilton, who was literally born with a billion dollar spoon in her mouth. One worked his ... off to get to where he is, the other, well, not so much.

Paris Hilton has worked her ... off.
 
Have you ever read the Stoner's story,. Nothing in it remotely compares to the life of Paris Hilton, who was literally born with a billion dollar spoon in her mouth. One worked his ... off to get to where he is, the other, well, not so much.

Stoner parents worked their ..... off to realise their sons dream. How do you think they feel hearing this son threaten to jack. Its like cartman from southpark not getting his own way. "Am Goin Home".

Are you telling me Stoner knows what 9 to 5 5 days a week on minimum wage. Having to work overtime on the weekends to feed and keep a roof over his familys head ? I put the Hilton part in because i knew a Neo bopper like you would jump on that rather that the point about stoner talking about pissing aways a life most normal men can only dream of. Would you have the luxury of jacking because your boss now wants to sell cars instead of boats ?
 
Hey Andy - Lex has offered a reasonable alternative. I think it runs along the lines of - all the fuel you want and run-what-ya-brung!!! Ooops - plus multiple tyre compounds and/or tyre manufacturers.



I appreciate the endorsement, but I think you've taken numerous unrelated solutions/dreams and combined them into a single sensational formula
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Overall, I think MotoGP has quite a few options to solve their problems. In another thread, IIRC, I said that MotoGP suffers from anti-competitive forces. As competitors fall out, the sport becomes less competitive, and growing consensus allows the manufacturers to create sterile competition. The governing body will never have the ability to split a dominant manufacturer into multiple teams, but they can create an environment that encourages competition.



Rather than trust-busting regulations, they could put restrictions on the winners. Everyone gets nine engines. If you win dry races, you get six. If you are the defending champ, 5 engines. Two-time champs, 4 engines. The purpose of winner's regulations is to provide steeply diminishing marginal returns just like anti-trust or anti-monopoly regulations. It could also spice up the entertainment b/c riders might leave teams after winning multiple championships which improves the competitive environment. Furthermore, the value of long dynasties increases as time goes on rather than decreasing as the manufacturers hoard and the fans get bored. The value of Doohan's 5-year run with a single manufacturer would have made him the GOAT along with Honda. Reducing fuel capacity could also be another form of anti-monopoly regulation.



In addition to creating unconventional anti-monopoly regulations, MotoGP could create an incubator to hatch additional fire-breathing dragons. By creating an 800cc Moto1 class with sensible regulations like 24L-800cc-specECU-16,000rpm, Dorna would have a place for FB Corse, Motocycsz, InMotec, Ilmor, etc to incubate. They'd also have a place for the independent chassis builders and riders to learn Bridgestone tires. If someone gets injured in MotoGP, replacement riders aren't hard to find. The exposure of Moto1 generates sponsorship revenues to fuel development so the smaller manufacturers can eventually create a MotoGP-worthy machine. Dorna could help the process along by paying companies to lease engines to other private teams.



An arrangement like the one I've outlined could allow MotoGP to have stable regulations for long periods of time. I can hear the manufacturers crying foul from here, but their complaints would merely reinforce my point about MotoGP suffering from anti-competitive forces.
 
Dont be to harsh on the lad curve. He has never had a real job on regular pay. A family to feed and a mortgage to pay. You cant expect him to realise how lucky he is when he has never experianced adulthood like the rest of us.

Would you expect Paris Hilton to understand the single mum working on the supermarket checkout ?

This is one of the lamest lines of argument I have ever seen from anyone, and particularly surprising coming from you. Like anyone in any job, if he has enough money to support his family and does not wish to continue for whatever reason, but particularly if he loses the urge to compete/function at the highest level in a dangerous sport like motogp, then it is perfectly reasonable to retire. Doctors happy with what they have achieved but no longer wanting the stress retire young all the time. John surtees went to F1 and won there. Rossi threatened to leave motogp for F1 or rallying or whatever for a number of years, as he was perfectly entitled to do.



Far more sportsmen go too long rather than retire too early, even the very great like ali in boxing.
 
This is one of the lamest lines of argument I have ever seen from anyone, and particularly surprising coming from you. Like anyone in any job, if he has enough money to support his family and does not wish to continue for whatever reason, but particularly if he loses the urge to compete/function at the highest level in a dangerous sport like motogp, then it is perfectly reasonable to retire. Doctors happy with what they have achieved but no longer wanting the stress retire young all the time. John surtees went to F1 and won there. Rossi threatened to leave motogp for F1 or rallying or whatever for a number of years, as he was perfectly entitled to do.



Far more sportsmen go too long rather than retire too early, even the very great like ali in boxing.

Im really seeing you in a different light. jum may say your diplomatic but i think you follow the pack but are clever enough to disguise it. what you have writen is pure spin and address none of the points Are you now saying he wants to quit because the job he does is dangrous or that he has made his money so .... it ?

You take my post how you want to use it but ignore what the post was replying too. The way the man in a dead end job views the cavilier attitude of the rich and famous. Curve said he wished he could retire at a moments notice, ie resentment to how some piss away others dreams or just take their great life for granted. I likened it to paris Hilton not or cant understand how a single mum working on a checkout lives, dreams and survives.

You call that lame ? then you join the ranks of the Neo boppers !
 
I've often wondered why there's no MotoGP in Canada. There's plenty of club racing and ....-loads of sportbike enthusiasts up there; not to mention a healthy economy.



I would lose my .... if we got one but I don't think (and I may be wrong here) we have any world class racing facilities. I know on the west coast we don't. The local tracks are .... and I'm not sure about in the east but I imagine the freeze/thaw would play hell on the track surface.



The Vancouver Indy was always held on public roads and I think the one in Montreal is the same.
 
Im really seeing you in a different light. jum may say your diplomatic but i think you follow the pack but are clever enough to disguise it. what you have writen is pure spin and address none of the points Are you now saying he wants to quit because the job he does is dangrous or that he has made his money so .... it ?

You take my post how you want to use it but ignore what the post was replying too. The way the man in a dead end job views the cavilier attitude of the rich and famous. Curve said he wished he could retire at a moments notice, ie resentment to how some piss away others dreams or just take their great life for granted. I likened it to paris Hilton not or cant understand how a single mum working on a checkout lives, dreams and survives.

You call that lame ? then you join the ranks of the Neo boppers !





Well it's like when I said that having worked with kids in horrific situations, and being part of the mechanism that takes them away, I didn't think Stoner had anything to greet aboot, I was told I was just talking crap because Stoner beat Rossi. And then folk greet because I say they can't understand what they are reading. Unreal mate
 
Im really seeing you in a different light. jum may say your diplomatic but i think you follow the pack but are clever enough to disguise it. what you have writen is pure spin and address none of the points Are you now saying he wants to quit because the job he does is dangrous or that he has made his money so .... it ?

You take my post how you want to use it but ignore what the post was replying too. The way the man in a dead end job views the cavilier attitude of the rich and famous. Curve said he wished he could retire at a moments notice, ie resentment to how some piss away others dreams or just take their great life for granted. I likened it to paris Hilton not or cant understand how a single mum working on a checkout lives, dreams and survives.

You call that lame ? then you join the ranks of the Neo boppers !





Well it's like when I said that having worked with kids in horrific situations, and being part of the mechanism that takes them away, I didn't think Stoner had anything to greet aboot, I was told I was just talking crap because Stoner beat Rossi. And then folk greet because I say they can't understand what they are reading. Unreal mate
 
Well it's like when I said that having worked with kids in horrific situations, and being part of the mechanism that takes them away, I didn't think Stoner had anything to greet aboot, I was told I was just talking crap because Stoner beat Rossi. And then folk greet because I say they can't understand what they are reading. Unreal mate



Well I just reread your post a few times, and I'm having trouble understanding what I am reading.
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Well it's like when I said that having worked with kids in horrific situations, and being part of the mechanism that takes them away, I didn't think Stoner had anything to greet aboot, I was told I was just talking crap because Stoner beat Rossi. And then folk greet because I say they can't understand what they are reading. Unreal mate

Mind boggling pete, Its not only the known berks but what i once concidered the higher thinkers too.
 
Stoner parents worked their ..... off to realise their sons dream. How do you think they feel hearing this son threaten to jack. Its like cartman from southpark not getting his own way. "Am Goin Home".

Are you telling me Stoner knows what 9 to 5 5 days a week on minimum wage. Having to work overtime on the weekends to feed and keep a roof over his familys head ? I put the Hilton part in because i knew a Neo bopper like you would jump on that rather that the point about stoner talking about pissing aways a life most normal men can only dream of. Would you have the luxury of jacking because your boss now wants to sell cars instead of boats ?



Now that everyone is financially set for life, they would probably be tickled to death if their son quit risking his life to bring home a check.
 
Now that everyone is financially set for life, they would probably be tickled to death if their son quit risking his life to bring home a check.

You assume he is set for life. From what he said at ducati he was not earning that much. Ducati did not offer much to him after his Rookie 06 year when he signed his contract and that was reported at the time. One year at HRC is worth what ? Maybe you are like the others in your cult where you know what he is thinking, what cars are in his garage and know his bank balance.
 
You assume he is set for life. From what he said at ducati he was not earning that much. Ducati did not offer much to him after his Rookie 06 year when he signed his contract and that was reported at the time. One year at HRC is worth what ? Maybe you are like the others in your cult where you know what he is thinking, what cars are in his garage and know his bank balance.



i guess 5 million (which is less than what he gets right?) is enough to secure any family for life.

you're really obsessed with stoner fans aren't you
 
i guess 5 million (which is less than what he gets right?) is enough to secure any family for life.

you're really obsessed with stoner fans aren't you

I call it as i see it !

You guess 5 million. 5 million what, £ $us $au ? yen
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. I doubt that would last a lifetime with the lifestyle expected from a 2 time wc but if he is content then good luck to him. I doubt 5 mil would buy a pad on the gold coast let alone keep a superstar and his famuily for there lives.

Its all guessing, from his bank ballence to his inner thoughts buy his fans. Anyone who questions it is attacked by the rabid hounds.

This thread should be a sticky for future referance. The bizarre claims and denials by the neo boppers are fantastic !
 
I'm not sure i understand where this topic has got to. Are folks saying that if Casey were to quit it would make him ungrateful for his relatively fortunate position and to all the people who have helped him along the way? He may not have had to struggle financially in his adulthood but there are far greater struggles in life than that, which he surely faces just like anyone else does.
 

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