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Those dogs are gold!!



I had a red cattle who was death to all snakes from the day we got her as a pup. She was so good to have around with babies in the house. When she was a tiny pup I walked past her outside and she was lying on her belly wrenching at licorice straps ........... licorice straps!!??? I thought ..... I went back and found that the licorice straps were about 8 baby black snakes she had got into and was sitting there and stripping the skin off each one and eating them.
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She was a dopey dog but gee she was magic with snakes.

My Rita didn't eat them as far as know but loved to bury them under the neighbour's house... Trophies to show her doggy friends?
 
My Rita didn't eat them as far as know but loved to bury them under the neighbour's house... Trophies to show her doggy friends?





Awww yuck ........ I gotta say, as much as I am not attracted to live snakes ..... dead snakes have a very special "extra pungent" aroma ...... bet your neighbour loves your dog
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Long ago we had a cat who would bring up live snakes and funnelwebs to the back door. I swear it was cos he was pissed with us if we were out and missed his feed time ........ nothing so instantly recogniseable as the crunch of a funnel web under a bare heel if you took a stroll outside in the dark ........ makes you put shoes on faster ( ie. thongs aka flip flops
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) I has a rule with my kids, come August they always had to wear some footwear outside.
 
Our cat in Canada loved to leave us presents of rodent entrails... I thinks she thought it was a badge of courage! Every freakin' morning my daughters would say, "dad, clean that up before I puke", then let the kitter come snuggle and clean herself on their laps! Kids!
 
Talking of snakes



here's a little fella I found sunning himself in the backyard last summer.



I like to keep them around, keeps the mouse/rat population down.
 

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There it is!
 
Thank you guys from the Australian anti chamber of commerce. My tickets to Oz are now on ebay. CHEAP.

We have these awful Bufo Toads here. Just like everything bad in nature, there not indigenous to the region. Thank Mick D. They come from your hood.

There big fat and ugly. If you pick one up or bite one they secrete poison that kills most dogs within a half hour.

Theres not a person here who doesnt know someone who lost a dog from them. I rushed my neighbors Yorkie to the er clinic 20 minutes from me. Poor Pookie was DOA.

My male daschund is a dumb ... and bites about ten a year. The telltale signs is foaming of the mouth. When you see that the clock is ticking.

He bit one good a few years back and by the time I got him to the ER he wasnt moving. 24 hours and 2 grand later we had our dog back alive.

By all accounts we were lucky. These liitle evils drop full grown labradors. Hounds are some stubborn ... dogs and I think that is what kept him alive

A year later he bit another one and was foaming good and we rushed him to the ER. By the time we got there he seemed ok but I wasnt sure. The vet came out to take him inside. I told him when I see him keel over on the lobby floor I will then hand him over the counter but not before. I was not going to spend another 2 grand for nothing. Sure enough I sat in the lobby for an hour and he was ok. Cheapest vet visit ever

The vet says dogs dont develop an immunity to the poison but after that bad episode he hardly ever foams when he bites one.

I swear hes developed an immunity

Bunyip obviously has the knowledge on all this, but very few people actually die of snake bite in Australia. Antivenene is widely available, and all the hospitals even the small ones have well established protocols. I think far more people die in India and Africa, partly because of greater overlap of snake and human habitats, and partly because of lesser availability of antivenene and perhaps more debilitation in some of the bitten. I don't know whether cobras, mambas etc are more aggressive than Australian snakes. The fierce snake/inland taipan reputedly has the most deadly venom in the world, but afaik there are no reports of them killing anyone, or even biting anyone in the wild; there are no people where they are, and they are apparently timid. Nevertheless an adult woman was recently reported in the general press to have died from a brown snake bite despite antivenene. Those buggers grow quite large, have venom very deadly to mice at least and can be quite aggressive I am told.



I am a city slicker and not enamoured of snakes, but you see redbellied black snakes in the vicinity of creeks even on inner city golf courses in Sydney; they are generally fine unless you step on them and not as deadly as some. I did once play on a golf course at Coolum on the Queensland Sunshine Coast where the rough was signposted as being snake habitat; since this would likely involve coastal taipans there seemed to be little enthusiasm in general to search for lost golf balls, and none at all from me.
 
F-O-R-E !!!!!

It did always strike me despite my lack of proficiency as a golfer that a golf club would be a useful implement with which to combat a snake, not that I would advocate being proactive about it.
 
It did always strike me despite my lack of proficiency as a golfer that a golf club would be a useful implement with which to combat a snake, not that I would advocate being proactive about it.

michael, have you checked out my politically correct December Greeting in the Lounge...?
 
Bunyip obviously has the knowledge on all this, but very few people actually die of snake bite in Australia. Antivenene is widely available, and all the hospitals even the small ones have well established protocols. I think far more people die in India and Africa, partly because of greater overlap of snake and human habitats, and partly because of lesser availability of antivenene and perhaps more debilitation in some of the bitten. I don't know whether cobras, mambas etc are more aggressive than Australian snakes. The fierce snake/inland taipan reputedly has the most deadly venom in the world, but afaik there are no reports of them killing anyone, or even biting anyone in the wild; there are no people where they are, and they are apparently timid. Nevertheless an adult woman was recently reported in the general press to have died from a brown snake bite despite antivenene. Those buggers grow quite large, have venom very deadly to mice at least and can be quite aggressive I am told.



I am a city slicker and not enamoured of snakes, but you see redbellied black snakes in the vicinity of creeks even on inner city golf courses in Sydney; they are generally fine unless you step on them and not as deadly as some. I did once play on a golf course at Coolum on the Queensland Sunshine Coast where the rough was signposted as being snake habitat; since this would likely involve coastal taipans there seemed to be little enthusiasm in general to search for lost golf balls, and none at all from me.



Funny how being a few hours from said hospitals tips ones resolve to perhaps deciding to try to not get bitten as opposed to rely on the medical infrastructure
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Funny how being a few hours from said hospitals tips ones resolve to perhaps deciding to try to not get bitten as opposed to rely on the medical infrastructure
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Sure. It remains a fact that 2 or 3 people die from snakebite in Australia yearly though, as opposed to thousands in Asia and Africa.



My father was brought up on a dairy farm in the first irrigation project in australia, which was very much snake central, and in his youth the attitude was to kill snakes at any opportunity. He says he regrets it now.



Your experience is doubtless great and mine minimal, and where children are involved obviously anyone would consider they come first, but I am still told snakes mostly leave you alone if you leave them alone.
 
Sure. It remains a fact that 2 or 3 people die from snakebite in Australia yearly though, as opposed to thousands in Asia and Africa.



My father was brought up on a dairy farm in the first irrigation project in australia, which was very much snake central, and in his youth the attitude was to kill snakes at any opportunity. He says he regrets it now.



Your experience is doubtless great and mine minimal, and where children are involved obviously anyone would consider they come first, but I am still told snakes mostly leave you alone if you leave them alone.



I'd agree with that. I can remember the last snake I killed. Don't know why I had never thought about not killing one before but I for some reason I decided I really had no reason to kill it, and actually felt quite bad about having killed this one. That was about 20 years ago. Now i tend to remove them by other means. Eg. One day my son was outside ( age about 6 ) and I heard him start to scream in terror, when I ran outside he was running toward me yelling snake and in a panic. I grabbed him, in a bit of a panic myself, and gave him a shake and said "where did it bite you!", he stopped and said rather clearly and in the calmest voice "oh no dad it didn't bite me" at which I calmed down too
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We then retraced his steps and found the snake. And watched it for a while as it headed toward a damp shaded part of the garden. It was a pretty dry period and we figured he was thirsty so we turned on the mist sprinklers, in a spot not far from him. In a few minutes he was in that spot and just basking in the drips of water and taking in as much as he could. When he'd had his fill he moved of and I never saw him again. Besides we had an huge ( 8 to 9 foot ) diamond python living at our place ( in the roof space mostly.) he tended to shift off the interlopers and was an "ok" rat catcher before we got cats.



Apart from their venom, they were really not much different from our somewhat tame diamond python, so we thereafter shift them rather than kill them. Better to train the kids than attempt to kill all snakes is probably the best way. As i said in an earlier post my reaction these days is usually just to start a bike up ( I usually seem to have one at hand ).



But to be honest, if hit, I still think its better to not rely on the thought that there will be imminent medical attention. I had a grand uncle who was chopping wood in his youth, he was bitten by a snake as he grabbed the next piece to split. According to my grandfather the uncles next action ( on the down stroke of the ace was to take off the bitten finger). It was the area to the northeast of Lismore NSW ( kinda near Andyroo ) so the trip to Lismore Hospital was an "iffy" few hours, and I gather there were no antivenins back then.

Regardless of whether or not we believed him as children the fact was that he was there to tell us the story, and since he told us the story we tended to take on the ethos of "act fast and don't wait for "help", in some occasions" ..... I'm still a bit like that today really. I think the biggest mistake you can make is think " she'll be fine an ambo will come .... " .



So don't worry, I'm not a snake killer. When I say "start a bike" its just to scare a snake off, its just the vibration of the engine thumps to scare them away ........ non-contact. Snakes have every right to exist by me. I've even removed a shoelace sized one peaceably, from inside the house, discovered in the strobe flash of a lazer tag set whilst the kids had all the lights off and playing ...... but thats another story. I'm even careful when slashing/mowing these days, not for my sake but for the snakes, folk forget that sure snakes can be dangerous ........ but humans are a far greater danger to them.

Besides they do good, they eat rats ( I don't need rats, nor their damage, and feel no remorse over their demise ), and the baby snakes will even eat funnelwebs ....... those I can't abide.
 
Do you get many tigers barry?



When I was growing up they where the only ones I'd kill, blacks and pythons I'd move. But i didn't trust tigers after I had a baby (2-feet) chase me.
 
I always thought tigers were not in my area, but I was getting some extensions done for the house and had roof sheets sitting in the front of the house and when cleaning up, only a week after they had been put there, I carefully lifted the remaining packing and spare sheets, expecting the usualy infestation of black or brown snakes and !!!! tiger!!! I was a bit stunned ( maybe tigers scare other snakes too LOL). So we get them but thats the only one I've ever seen here "in the wild" so to speak. It was a youngy so I guess there must be parents around, but gee they must be timid and secretive.



Oh and for the non-snake cohabitants....... if you want to see a snake ........ leave a sheet of roofing iron on the ground ( or even just close to the ground ) Wait a week and lift the sheet carefully from one corner ...... being ready to run .....
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Most I've seen was about 20 youngons, some few years ago now, when my prim and proper cousin was showing me around her farm ...... and she said "oh and we always get snakes ..... look" ( she lifted an old sheet of roof iron in the middle of the paddock ) .....!!! about 20 young browns scattered in all directions ....... I screamed and ran like a girl ....... she in her flowing long sandy blonde hair, light floral summer skirt, and gumboots stood there laughing at me
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Yea they are timid and secretive all they way up until you piss them off then they are rather aggressive!
 
Do you get many tigers barry?



When I was growing up they where the only ones I'd kill, blacks and pythons I'd move. But i didn't trust tigers after I had a baby (2-feet) chase me.



im from california.. used to catch what we called gopher snakes in my youth that look alot like the pics some of you put up.. and where i live now, you get those and rattlesnakes which look pretty similar.. except for the head shape and rattle.. but what're tigers? any pics?



edit: btw.. scariest encounter for me was while swimming in a lake, watching a watersnake.. no idea what kind, swimming on top of the water toward me.. sorry.. you serve no purpose.. i'd nuke the lake
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