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This is the biggest load of sophomoric, antagonistic Bopper ........ and you guys are so unimaginative that you constantly recycle the same line of bogus crap. Tell me, or anyone here with a straight face that if you were being paid millions of dollars to win

championships, had worked your entire life since the age of 11 and sacrificed anything and everything, spent

countless hours, weeks, months, years training and training and training and suffered through multiple serious,

painful injuries and undergone numerous surgeries and committed yourself heart and soul to one purpose and

one purpose only... to win that race - that after being knocked down by an irresponsible clown - you would just

pat him on the back and say "There there old chap, think nothing of it - in fact why don't you pop by my place

later for a spot of tea?" This demonizing of Stoner for simply speaking his mind - is a totally disingenuous

straw man fantasy on your part and and you know it as well as I do.



I agree.







I still believe that Rossi requires at minimum a warning from the officials. This type of move is becoming a regular occurrence from Rossi and at this level of racing is unacceptable. It can happen down the back of the field or in Moto2 as much as they like but at the front with riders riding for championships, history and big money on bikes worth bigger money irresponsible moves such as this one should not be encouraged and a lack of action by officials just says that it is fine.



As far as Rossi being capable of winning the race, well I have doubts. The front 3 riders were pretty much coasting at the time of the ......... move. Stoner was definitely just coasting and waiting to get further into the race before putting the hammer down. Watching the race I commented that I couldn't believe how slow Stoner was riding. Rossi on the other hand was trying to catch the front guys before they ran away so was obviously going at 100% and rightly so.



Talpa and the other ....... who think Stoners comments were unjustified and will have a negative impact on Stoner are unbelievable. Rossi has punched a fellow competitor before!!!!!!!!!!!!



Stoner will go down in history as being the only rider to have owned Rossi off the track as well as on it.



I say it again.... Rossi's legacy is starting to look like ....!
 
I agree.







I still believe that Rossi requires at minimum a warning from the officials. This type of move is becoming a regular occurrence from Rossi and at this level of racing is unacceptable. It can happen down the back of the field or in Moto2 as much as they like but at the front with riders riding for championships, history and big money on bikes worth bigger money irresponsible moves such as this one should not be encouraged and a lack of action by officials just says that it is fine.



As far as Rossi being capable of winning the race, well I have doubts. The front 3 riders were pretty much coasting at the time of the ......... move. Stoner was definitely just coasting and waiting to get further into the race before putting the hammer down. Watching the race I commented that I couldn't believe how slow Stoner was riding. Rossi on the other hand was trying to catch the front guys before they ran away so was obviously going at 100% and rightly so.



Talpa and the other ....... who think Stoners comments were unjustified and will have a negative impact on Stoner are unbelievable. Rossi has punched a fellow competitor before!!!!!!!!!!!!



Stoner will go down in history as being the only rider to have owned Rossi off the track as well as on it.



I say it again.... Rossi's legacy is starting to look like ....!



I'm afraid Rossi will never be owned by Stoner off the track. Stoner lost all credibility those couple of occasions he sat down and cried when it got too much for him.



On the track, it is possible but Stoner needs to do it for a lot longer to get there. He hasn't done it yet and in fact I think Rossi owns Stoner as he seems a little scared of Rossi when he comes along trying to pass him.
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100% right Mental.



Casey's comment about Rossi's ambition outweighting his talent shows how he no longer looks with awe at Valentino. He is just another racer in his way to the championship. He knows he has Rossi's measure on the track & now he owns him off the track as well. It's about time all the riders stood up to him instead of letting him running roughshod over them. They are all his equal, he's no better than Elias, Pedro or Lorenzo & the sooner he realises that, the better it will be & some lost respect will be returned.



Move over Mrs Stoner, Casey has a new ..... & her name is Valentino...................... off Uccio, your done.
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Anyone else check out that really tall blonde podium girl, the one one the left. Damn she had to be 10 feet tall. Im in love
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I agree.







I still believe that Rossi requires at minimum a warning from the officials. This type of move is becoming a regular occurrence from Rossi and at this level of racing is unacceptable. It can happen down the back of the field or in Moto2 as much as they like but at the front with riders riding for championships, history and big money on bikes worth bigger money irresponsible moves such as this one should not be encouraged and a lack of action by officials just says that it is fine.



As far as Rossi being capable of winning the race, well I have doubts. The front 3 riders were pretty much coasting at the time of the ......... move. Stoner was definitely just coasting and waiting to get further into the race before putting the hammer down. Watching the race I commented that I couldn't believe how slow Stoner was riding. Rossi on the other hand was trying to catch the front guys before they ran away so was obviously going at 100% and rightly so.



Talpa and the other ....... who think Stoners comments were unjustified and will have a negative impact on Stoner are unbelievable. Rossi has punched a fellow competitor before!!!!!!!!!!!!



Stoner will go down in history as being the only rider to have owned Rossi off the track as well as on it.



I say it again.... Rossi's legacy is starting to look like ....!





Honestly, its this kinda ..... thats ruining this forum. Rossi races hard, always has. Yesterday he made a mistake, even Stoner admits it was a racing incident. How do you know Stoner was definitely coasting before puting the hammer down? Did he tell you that? His tyres might of been ......, you dont know! Rossi could have won the race and ...... it up by being a little too eager. As for Rossi punching a felow competitor, i'd be doing more than punching if someone forced me onto the grass at 150mph... So many people on this forum have the blinkers on(Stoner fans as well as Rossi fans), its ....... pathetic.



As for his legacy looking like ...., utter, utter pish!
 
I think Rossi owns Stoner as he seems a little scared of Rossi when he comes along trying to pass him.
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I agree - I am fairly sure Casey regards Rossi with utter contempt and views him as both dangerous and desperate. Rossi's recent track record suggests he may be correct in that assumption.



I dont think Valentino will get close enough for Stoner to be able to test that theory in the short term - unless we see similar conditions at another track in the next few months.
 
Honestly, its this kinda ..... thats ruining this forum. Rossi races hard, always has. Yesterday he made a mistake, even Stoner admits it was a racing incident. How do you know Stoner was definitely coasting before puting the hammer down? Did he tell you that? His tyres might of been ......, you dont know! Rossi could have won the race and ...... it up by being a little too eager. As for Rossi punching a felow competitor, i'd be doing more than punching if someone forced me onto the grass at 150mph... So many people on this forum have the blinkers on(Stoner fans as well as Rossi fans), its ....... pathetic.



Yes, it was quite obvious his tyres were completely shagged after 3 laps. He was on the verge of crashing for the 2 previous laps as his tyres disintergrated so Rossi did the field a favour by taking the dangerous whinger out & making it a safe race for everyone. Thanks for saving Moto GP again Vale, you are my hero too!
 
Yes, it was quite obvious his tyres were completely shagged after 3 laps. He was on the verge of crashing for the 2 previous laps as his tyres disintergrated so Rossi did the field a favour by taking the dangerous whinger out & making it a safe race for everyone. Thanks for saving Moto GP again Vale, you are my hero too!





HAR HAR. He backed of the pace at around 7 laps, Rossi caught him on the 8th. Who knows why he was backing off, you certainly dont!
 
The main thing thats still quite funny is the fact that stoner fans cannot get over whats happened, and accept that it was a basic accident, involving a little over eagerness and an apology...



Really nothing further is required.



People making grand dramatic statements of what the rider has gone through in life "just to be taken out"....is frankly laughable, nothing more.



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HAR HAR. He backed of the pace at around 7 laps, Rossi caught him on the 8th. Who knows why he was backing off, you certainly dont!



You're right, I do have no idea but I thought the comment about his tyre being stuffed was amusing. No biggie spook-just tryng to lighten the mood.
 
Honestly, its this kinda ..... thats ruining this forum. Rossi races hard, always has. Yesterday he made a mistake, even Stoner admits it was a racing incident. How do you know Stoner was definitely coasting before puting the hammer down? Did he tell you that? His tyres might of been ......, you dont know! Rossi could have won the race and ...... it up by being a little too eager. As for Rossi punching a felow competitor, i'd be doing more than punching if someone forced me onto the grass at 150mph... So many people on this forum have the blinkers on(Stoner fans as well as Rossi fans), its ....... pathetic.



As for his legacy looking like ...., utter, utter pish!



Ruining this forum? For who? Rossi Boppers? Guess what it is not me or anyone else ruining this forum for Rossi Boppers. It is Rossi himself that is doing that. The last 18 mths has been telling for Rossi. His desperation gets worse every day. The motorcycling world is moving on from the One Rider Series that has been MotoGP for most of the last decade. Rossi doesn't like it just like any spoilt child who has there toys taken away.



Maybe if you actually watched the racing you would have been able to observe the body language of the bike and Stoner on the track. I am not sure what you do when you watch MotoGP but when I do I am observing the riders and the bikes and how they perform. As it is with the intellect of many species of mammals they learn by observation. Maybe you should spend less time idolising and more time following the sport and you to could learn something and one day make an observation too.



Rossi could have won the race? Well from my observation Rossi was unable to do the lap times he was attempting because he fell off. So in my opinion no he couldn't have because I believe that Stoner, Lorenzo and Pedrosa could have run with more pace than Rossi was when he FELL off.



So this is the big problem. Rossi was justified in being angry because of .......... (what ever excuse that can be thought of)..... yet Stoner, odds on favourite to win the championship, riding along holding a position comfortably, willing to let anyone through because he was not looking for a fight so early in the race and therefore gives plenty of room, gets bowled over by an over ambitious school boy who prematurely shoots his load, is not allowed to have any opinion or make any comment or show any emotion about loosing a very likely 25 point hall and accompanying 10 point lead in the WC.



It is also really funny how you suggest that me offering an observation that Stoner was coasting is claimed to lack proof however you are happy to offer up your own speculation on what could have been as proof I am wrong.
 
You're right, I do have no idea but I thought the comment about his tyre being stuffed was amusing. No biggie spook-just tryng to lighten the mood.



Ah ken mate! His tyre was probably ok at that stage, but judging by the state of the tyres at the end you never know!
 
The main thing thats still quite funny is the fact that stoner fans cannot get over whats happened, and accept that it was a basic accident, involving a little over eagerness and an apology...



Really nothing further is required.



People making grand dramatic statements of what the rider has gone through in life "just to be taken out"....is frankly laughable, nothing more.



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Almost as funny how you keep thinking your opinion resembles any sort of reality when faced with virtually 100% of opinion being contrary to that belief. I think you would find on a count back on this thread that you have the overwhelming majority of posts. I know because I don't bother reading 99% of what you dribble so it takes no time to skim through this thread.
 
Ruining this forum? For who? Rossi Boppers? Guess what it is not me or anyone else ruining this forum for Rossi Boppers. It is Rossi himself that is doing that. The last 18 mths has been telling for Rossi. His desperation gets worse every day. The motorcycling world is moving on from the One Rider Series that has been MotoGP for most of the last decade. Rossi doesn't like it just like any spoilt child who has there toys taken away.



Maybe if you actually watched the racing you would have been able to observe the body language of the bike and Stoner on the track. I am not sure what you do when you watch MotoGP but when I do I am observing the riders and the bikes and how they perform. As it is with the intellect of many species of mammals they learn by observation. Maybe you should spend less time idolising and more time following the sport and you to could learn something and one day make an observation too.



Rossi could have won the race? Well from my observation Rossi was unable to do the lap times he was attempting because he fell off. So in my opinion no he couldn't have because I believe that Stoner, Lorenzo and Pedrosa could have run with more pace than Rossi was when he FELL off.



So this is the big problem. Rossi was justified in being angry because of .......... (what ever excuse that can be thought of)..... yet Stoner, odds on favourite to win the championship, riding along holding a position comfortably, willing to let anyone through because he was not looking for a fight so early in the race and therefore gives plenty of room, gets bowled over by an over ambitious school boy who prematurely shoots his load, is not allowed to have any opinion or make any comment or show any emotion about loosing a very likely 25 point hall and accompanying 10 point lead in the WC.



It is also really funny how you suggest that me offering an observation that Stoner was coasting is claimed to lack proof however you are happy to offer up your own speculation on what could have been as proof I am wrong.



The fact that in that particular corner he was over eager and came off, in no way means he wasnt or couldnt continue to put great lap times in.



He saw an opening that was just a bit too much and got a rush of blood...at that moment.



The way he was going all it would have taken is just a little more petience.



As for the last 18 months being telling, what a crock of .....



For the last 12 months alone he has had a shoulder issue, and the year previous he was champ.
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The main thing thats still quite funny is the fact that stoner fans cannot get over whats happened, and accept that it was a basic accident, involving a little over eagerness and an apology...



Really nothing further is required.

People making grand dramatic statements of what the rider has

gone through in life "just to be taken out"....is frankly laughable,

nothing more.



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it is laughable, but I believe they are more pissed at Rossis speed and the easy at which he caught the almighty Stoner on his superior Honda, even having to pass half the field in the process! which directly contrasts all the ........ they've been

posting for the past 4 months. This racing incident serves only

as a front for them, most are still eating feces and can't bare to post....
 
The fact that in that particular corner he was over eager and came off, in no way means he wasnt or couldnt continue to put great lap times in. Really? Falling off doesn't mean that you are going faster then you can? Interesting.



He saw an opening that was just a bit too much and got a rush of blood...at that moment. Oh, so you are channelling him now?



The way he was going all it would have taken is just a little more petience. No .... sherlock. Patience and Stoner would have still been in the race. Isn't patience the cornerstone of RACECRAFT?



As for the last 18 months being telling, what a crock of .....



For the last 12 months alone he has had a shoulder issue, and the year previous he was champ.
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HAHAHAHAHA. Now that is funny. Thank you for making my point for me.
 
Ruining this forum? For who? Rossi Boppers? Guess what it is not me or anyone else ruining this forum for Rossi Boppers. It is Rossi himself that is doing that. The last 18 mths has been telling for Rossi. His desperation gets worse every day. The motorcycling world is moving on from the One Rider Series that has been MotoGP for most of the last decade. Rossi doesn't like it just like any spoilt child who has there toys taken away.



Maybe if you actually watched the racing you would have been able to observe the body language of the bike and Stoner on the track. I am not sure what you do when you watch MotoGP but when I do I am observing the riders and the bikes and how they perform. As it is with the intellect of many species of mammals they learn by observation. Maybe you should spend less time idolising and more time following the sport and you to could learn something and one day make an observation too.



Rossi could have won the race? Well from my observation Rossi was unable to do the lap times he was attempting because he fell off. So in my opinion no he couldn't have because I believe that Stoner, Lorenzo and Pedrosa could have run with more pace than Rossi was when he FELL off.



So this is the big problem. Rossi was justified in being angry because of .......... (what ever excuse that can be thought of)..... yet Stoner, odds on favourite to win the championship, riding along holding a position comfortably, willing to let anyone through because he was not looking for a fight so early in the race and therefore gives plenty of room, gets bowled over by an over ambitious school boy who prematurely shoots his load, is not allowed to have any opinion or make any comment or show any emotion about loosing a very likely 25 point hall and accompanying 10 point lead in the WC.



It is also really funny how you suggest that me offering an observation that Stoner was coasting is claimed to lack proof however you are happy to offer up your own speculation on what could have been as proof I am wrong.



Easy Mental! You're having a go at me because you think i'm having a dig at Stoner? I aint a bopper (though i am a Rossi fan) and i admire Casey, i couldnt even give a .... about Caseys lack of tact when dealing with incidents/press - everyone is different and not everyone wears their heart on their sleeve.



My dig at the Stoner boppers however is you use every single chance available to hate on Rossi(same for Rossi boppers too mind), your desperation to hate is almost as bad as your percieved notion that Rossi is desperate to succeed on the ...... Duc, regardless of the fact that it is indeed ....... He made a mistake, your boy caught the thick end of it, he'll bounce back because he's the quickest out there, dry your eyes Mental, he'll be OK!



As for Rossi winning the race, if he hadnt gone too deep he could have won, alas, he did run too deep and he ...... up. It wouldnt have the first time he's come from way back to win though, would it? The school boy comment makes me laugh, the daft little school boy who's been schooling everyone for the last 10years give or take...
 
it is laughable, but I believe they are more pissed at Rossis speed and the easy at which he caught the almighty Stoner on his superior Honda, even having to pass half the field in the process! which directly contrasts all the ........ they've been

posting for the past 4 months. This racing incident serves only

as a front for them, most are still eating feces and can't bare to post....





So Talpa, a question (or mabe even a few) for you.



Was Rossi's speed excessive?



I would think the answer has to be yes as he did fall off did he not?



Given that Stoner fell a number of times last year after losing the front and he was referred to unflattering terms with regards to his racecraft, should VR also now rethink his strategy along lines of the advice supplied to Stoner last year via forums like this?











Gaz
 
So Talpa, a question (or mabe even a few) for you.



Was Rossi's speed excessive?



I would think the answer has to be yes as he did fall off did he not?

Given that Stoner fell a number of times last year after losing

the front and he was referred to unflattering terms with regards to his racecraft, should VR also now rethink his strategy along

lines of the advice supplied to Stoner last year via forums like

this?



Gaz



the point is not if rossi's speed was excessive, obviously in turn 1 lap 8 it was, the point is that the majority here have been adamantely adopting the opinion that this kind of dominant speed wasn't possible, that this accident could never have been possible because Stoner would always be so far ahead, and that only Stoner could ride the Duck,

VR is the new Melandri and so on. Well much earlier than expected it's all been exposed for the ........ it always was. That's the point....
 

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