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A number of sites are saying that Shanghai is definitely gone for 2009 ... and beyond. What a shame ... not!

I'm sure the Dalai Lama won't be crying about that decision!
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Let's hope the ......s at DORNA bring back Istanbul!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ Apr 9 2008, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A number of sites are saying that Shanghai is definitely gone for 2009 ... and beyond. What a shame ... not!

I'm sure the Dalai Lama won't be crying about that decision!
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Let's hope the ......s at DORNA bring back Istanbul!
hear, hear!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ Apr 9 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Let's hope the ......s at DORNA bring back Istanbul!

That is not in the hands of Dorna. Bernie Ecclestone bought the circuit last year and raised the fee from 3 million to 25 million, thus making it unaffordable for DORNA.
I agree that it should come back, it is the only decent Tilke track and it works for F1 and MotoGP.

I vote for South-Africa or Brasil, ok timezones for TV and I haven't visited those continents yet anyway so good for a trip too.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ Apr 9 2008, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A number of sites are saying that Shanghai is definitely gone for 2009 ... and beyond. What a shame ... not!

I'm sure the Dalai Lama won't be crying about that decision!
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Let's hope the ......s at DORNA bring back Istanbul!
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Happy to see Shanghai go as well. I vote for adding back in another Euro track, so we get more back to back racing. How about Monza, but make it a nostalgia race where all the riders have to ride retro bikes from the 60's, time to separate the men from the boys. But seriously, I liked Istanbul, would like to see that one back. Brands Hatch perhaps, I think it's been discussed before as being too small. Magny Cours perhaps?
 
One less 6am alarm, I'm cryin'.

Going back to Brazil would be nice, Interlagos, perfect.
 
Really pleased to see they are getting rid of a Tilke track.

Maybe they are finally walking the walk when it comes to improving safety. It starts and ends with the circuit. Very little can be achieved by messing with the bikes.
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Anyway, I hope they bring back Brazil at the Autodromo Nelson Piquet. The circuit is scheduled for demolition but maybe it will be spared if Dorna go back?
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Another cool idea would be to run the same circuit twice. For instance, run Jerez on the first weekend of the season then again on the last. It would be cool to see how much the bikes progress over the course of one season. It would be interesting to see how much the race outcome changes over 1 year of bike and tire development, rider injuries, and team experience.

Rotate the opening round so we don't get sick of seeing the circuit 3 times in 12 months.
 
good. really never cared much for the track. tilke tracks suck (except istanbul of course). think i'd like to see welkom back on the calander. sucks for dazza tho...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Apr 9 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>good. really never cared much for the track. tilke tracks suck (except istanbul of course). think i'd like to see welkom back on the calander. sucks for dazza tho...
welkom or rio
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Apr 9 2008, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That is not in the hands of Dorna. Bernie Ecclestone bought the circuit last year and raised the fee from 3 million to 25 million, thus making it unaffordable for DORNA.

Well, as everywhere else the market is driven by availability and demand. With his initial price there can't be much other than F1 racing there. If Dorna want to get it back on the schedule I'd say they have a fair chance by negotiating the price.
As you say it's not the only alternative and that should give them a strong position in negotiations.
I guess it's in the interest of Bernie to have MotoGP there both as the top of motorcycle racing and also as motorcycles are the least abusive to the track.
 
good, shanghai is a .... track...

send it to Welkom but only if they iron out some of the bumps and improve the pits

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ Apr 9 2008, 07:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A number of sites are saying that Shanghai is definitely gone for 2009 ... and beyond. What a shame ... not!

I'm sure the Dalai Lama won't be crying about that decision!
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Let's hope the ......s at DORNA bring back Istanbul!

If they can afford Big Bernie's track fee at Istanbul.

Austin, I believe Suzuka got the cut, because the bikes just got too fast for the track, and after Daijiro Kato's fatal accident.
 
i'd like to see motogp at spa francochamps in belgium.. that would be a good replacement for shangai...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bill88 @ Apr 9 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'd like to see motogp at spa francochamps in belgium.. that would be a good replacement for shangai...

Same thing with Suzuka. Even with the modifications made that winter, the track still lacks the adequate run offs for the bikes. Eau Rogue is dangerous for cars, imagine with a bike going the same speed, if not faster?

If this is true, the best track would be Istanbul or Welkhom Park in South Africa.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Apr 9 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Austin, I believe Suzuka got the cut, because the bikes just got too fast for the track, and after Daijiro Kato's fatal accident.
I know but from what I understand Suzuka has made a few upgrades since MotoGP left after Kato's death. It's a beautiful track and if the safety has been improved then I would love to see the series go back.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Apr 9 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know but from what I understand Suzuka has made a few upgrades since MotoGP left after Kato's death. It's a beautiful track and if the safety has been improved then I would love to see the series go back.

Oh, I didn't know that. If the track had some proper run offs on every, or nearly every corner, it could be run, but then you run into two Japanese races. True most teams run bikes from Japan, the luster for bike racing is not big in Japan though. So two races would be tough, same with two USGP's.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Apr 9 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh, I didn't know that. If the track had some proper run offs on every, or nearly every corner, it could be run, but then you run into two Japanese races. True most teams run bikes from Japan, the luster for bike racing is not big in Japan though. So two races would be tough, same with two USGP's.


where ever you heard japan doesnt like bike racing you heard wrong... Ive lived in north america and japan its MUCH MUCH MUCH more popular there then north america... also in north america you dont get the races live half the time you get those edited 1 hour speedtv or whatever its called show of just the motogp race where as they show the races live in japan from the begining 125s to motogp

so please check your information before you assume!
 

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