<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Oct 31 2009, 11:35 AM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>.... off you ####!! There is so much ........ here I can smell it through the aether!!! Just to reference recent times-Who beat Stoner throughout most of 2008, when he was not 'SICK'? Especially at Laguna Seca when he (CS) was a second ahead of the field in FP1-2 and QP? Brno, Misano, Mugello, Motegi, Herez, Catalunya, Le Mans- need I go on to make you look like an even bigger ....! Who beat Stoner through most of 2009? Who also failed to score points at 2 rounds this year and is 70 points ahead of Stoner, and world champion-AGAIN? You missed math class too? JL also has failed to score points at 3 rounds this year if I'm not mistaken, he is also 40 odd points clear of cs, and a relative rookie on the BS's compared to his rivals. Missed this one too, you should check the points table, they show it at the end of each race, you can also find it online at Motogp.com whenever you need to, you will also find last years results there-take a look, it will be good for you
Are we watching the same sport or are you mistaking you PS3 version where you ride as CS one handed, as the other one is busy pumping the purple-headed warrior!!
The only one out of their mind is you.......
actually not true, there are a few more here as well
Here, let me reply for you (even though chockmoose may feel I belong in the 'sand in ......' crowd), as I had this typed up yesterday but then thought to let you guys fire first, although I did have a picture of veins popping when you guys read the comments
It is very easy to hypothesise as to the 'what if' scenario given the absence of Stoner this year, but the truth and facts are that one cannot know with certainty where Stoner (be he fully fit, or still suffering) would have finished or indeed if he would have finished.
What also needs to be considered in any such argument/discussion is that Rossi fell during one of these races where Stoner was absent, and as such his loss of points negated Stoner's absence.
So, for a little more discussion I decided to look at 'average points per pointscoring race' of the 'top 4' in the 800cc era (just for kicks). The results were :
Rossi
Pointsore Races: 47
Total Pointscore: 900
Average Points per Race: 19.14 per race
Total non-Pointscore Races: 5
Stoner
Pointsore Races: 46
Total Pointscore: 867
Average Points per Race: 18.84
Total non-Pointscore Races: 6
Pedrosa
Pointsore Races: 44
Total Pointscore: 700
Average Points per Race: 15.90
Total non-Pointscore Races: 8
Lorenzo (2008/9 only)
Pointsore Races: 25
Total Pointscore: 435
Average Points per Race: 17.40
Total non-Pointscore Races: 9
One may draw their own conclusions but it does make interesting reading.
Now Talpa, just to debate your post a little.
CS is actually 25 points behind JL at this point and as such, if CS wins Valencia and JL DNF's, CS finishes second in the WC behind Rossi. That said, I can bet you a house that CS doesn't care about second, just as JL has no care about the place either as both only think of first (what FIAT Yamaha have to say is not known). But, it also need to be remembered that JL has had 4 non-pointscoring rides in season compared to Stoner's 3 non-pointscoring rides.
So for me irrespective of personal feelings or any patriotism, (some reading this may want to sit down for a second
) JL deserves second place in the title and personally I hope he rides smart and achieves it.
On the note you mention of the Bridgestones, it is one major reason why I have this year so enjoyed watching Lorenzo battle it with Rossi (not always successfully) as he is a novice/rookie on the Bridgestones compared to the headstart of the other top 4 (Stoner 2 years, Rossi 1 year, Pedrosa 4 races). Yes, certainly I accept that these particular Bridgestones are likely not that as used in 2007/8 by the others, but for mine the performance of Lorenzo on these tyres is quite close to that of Rossi last year when he changed - very impressive.
The 'what it' discussion that so seems to have upset chockmoose will however go on a long time due to Stoner's absence (irrespective of what people think as individuals) and is nothing new as a number of championships have had the 'question' (term used loosely) due to injuries suffered by other competitior (ie. Criville due to Doohan etc)
Gaz
