Rossi vs Schumacher

Is Rossi a greater champion the Schmacher

In my opinion most definatly, 1st and formost Rossi is a sportsman, Schumacher has been a bad sportsman on serveral occasions, actually so many that I can't list them all here (I just keep thinking of more and more), the worst ones have been his deliberate crashing into opponents to secure world title. Hill/Villeneuve, and in the Villeneuve case he had all his years point deducted. Also Schumacher is a member of the GPDA, when all drivers have had saftey issues this year Schumacher has not been there about saftey, Rossi is always on about saftey.

2. I have never seen one of Rossi's team mates move over and let him win or ride obstruction for him, I can't count the times Scumacher has been aided in this way, plus all the other unscuplouse things that on in the Ferrari pit to effect the mighty Schumacher getting infront of his team mate. Every other team allowes there team mates to race each other, not Ferrari.

3. IMHO Schumacher does not rate hight against previous F1 champions he may have more titles but with all the assistance as described above he falls well short. The same cannot said Rossi he rates well with previous champions, he is debatably probably the best ever.

Overall Ferrari have a lot to do with the ungreatness of Schumacher, if they had let him race as all other racers before have he may well have be able to show his greatness in a genuien way.

Hope Rossi dosn't go to Ferrari and F1, I would have to start cheering for Ferrari

.... I'm going out the back to shoot myself

Cheers

Rossi gets my vote anytime, anywhere!!

I agree with nº2 and nº3, not that much with nº1. Jerez 2005 rings your bell? Assen 2004??? Rossi has pushed Sete out twice.

I agree, Rossi is just the ultimate and doesn't have to be called worse than Schumacer, just because not as much people watch moto gp

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyd @ Aug 16 2005, 09:45 AM)<div class='quotemain'>I agree, Rossi is just the ultimate and doesn't have to be called worse than Schumacer, just because not as much people watch moto gp

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I`m not an F1 fan but they both excel in their own sport

True they both kick ..., Rossi is better IMO but.... bit of a pointless post on GP forum

To each their own. It is very hard to compare who is a greater champion or sportsman between two different sports because each series has it's own politics and rules which may lead fans to look down on one or the other. Any way you slice it Schumacher and Rossi have won a lot of world championships and will be considered as some of the greatest in their sport.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Aug 16 2005, 04:52 AM)<div class='quotemain'>I agree with nº2 and nº3, not that much with nº1. Jerez 2005 rings your bell? Assen 2004??? Rossi has pushed Sete out twice.
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thats called racing very entertaining racing at that. i know being spanish that was hard to take. i just wish sete would dish it back to valentino

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kev58 @ Aug 16 2005, 04:36 PM)<div class='quotemain'>thats called racing very entertaining racing at that. i know being spanish that was hard to take. i just wish sete would dish it back to valentino
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Depends on who does it, when it's Hopkins doing it, then it's a dangerous manouver and Hopkins gets sanctioned, if it's Tamada the same happens.
If it's Rossi then it's just racing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Aug 16 2005, 01:39 PM)<div class='quotemain'>To each their own.  It is very hard to compare who is a greater champion or sportsman between two different sports because each series has it's own politics and rules which may lead fans to look down on one or the other.  Any way you slice it Schumacher and Rossi have won a lot of world championships and will be considered as some of the greatest in their sport.
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Put em in karts,they both have experience of it,then get em together at one of those Paris-Bercy stadium events

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Aug 16 2005, 12:10 PM)<div class='quotemain'>Depends on who does it, when it's Hopkins doing it, then it's a dangerous manouver and Hopkins gets sanctioned, if it's Tamada the same happens.
If it's Rossi then it's just racing.
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i agree with you on that. both were screwed royaly! very unfair! let's not forget loris caparossi's take out at motegi last year. same as hopkins from previous year with worse result's yet nothing. i guess it pays to be italian or spanish in gps. remember it was checa complaining that got hopper & gibernau that got tamada!

I was just going to mention Loris Capirossi, don't forget his unpunished actions. These sanctions that MotoGP hands out for accidents is so inconsistant they should be non-existant. They are all results of racing and should be handled as so. I say to hell with fining or suspending a rider for causing a crash.

That Loris incident was unbelievable...I was so outraged when I saw that bonehead maneuver.

teomolca mate you have rose tinted specticales, Jerez was a racing incident in my own biased opinion

Cheers

I think that's what Teo is trying to say, Marbles. That is was a part of racing. The point Teo is making is that when other riders do it they get sanctioned and when Rossi does it nothing happens. That is why I say no sanctions or suspensions or fines for instances such as those.

Yes couldn't agree more Ooost I hate it when official get all punative like that, but hey Teo is spanish Rose titnited specticles has to be.

I love spaninsh fans though, sp passionate, could teach us dried out old kiwi's a thing or too

Cheers

Actually I'm not a fan of Sete, but to me the incident at Jerez was similar to the ones of Hopkins and Tamada and probably all of of them are racing incidents, but only Rossi gets out with a slap on the wrist.

Rossi is really smart and he knows he can go a little bit tougher than the rest without being punished and he used that advantage in Jerez and Assen. And I think it's not a honourable way of winning for Rossi, probably the best rider ever.

So I think in that way he is like Schumacher, with that agressive "win-at-all-costs" attitude.

Schumacher is awesome...but with the new tire regulations this year Ferrari hasn't been winning like they used to.

Put Rossi on a ...... bike and he'll still win. THAT is what makes a champion.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Aug 18 2005, 06:22 AM)<div class='quotemain'>Actually I'm not a fan of Sete, but to me the incident at Jerez was similar to the ones of Hopkins and Tamada and probably all of of them are racing incidents, but only Rossi gets out with a slap on the wrist.

Rossi is really smart and he knows he can go a little bit tougher than the rest without being punished and he used that advantage in Jerez and Assen. And I think it's not a honourable way of winning for Rossi, probably the best rider ever.

So I think in that way he is like Schumacher, with that agressive "win-at-all-costs" attitude.
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rossi needs to get what he dishes out ! plain & simple

if sum 1 can fight with rossi until the last lap then slip up the inside then fair enough but u have to b a winner for that to happen, it was a tough inccident but theres worse in gp im sure... we have only 8 races left or is it 7 and we r still talking race 1 SAD PEOPLE WE RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR