Whatever was said / was in a pm. Not in a public forum. It was Rog - who embarrassed himself by speaking of it publicly - in order to make himself out the martyr and then (typically) laid it on thick with extreme exaggeration. A mountain out of a molehill. Something JP now specializes in.
This admission is quite stunning and quite typical of a bully. Bullies and other abusers often attack their victims outside the view of others, behind closed doors, in private. They smile for the public but take jabs in private.
Kesh isn't denying he attacked Roger, he is saying he did it privately! Then tried to shame the victim when they went public! This is classic bully behavior and should give anybody who reads Keshav's post above pause to reassess their thoughts on this situation. How this got missed is disturbing. Its why victims often feel ashamed to go public, because the feelings of complicity that the bully will introduce to contaminate and deflect from the real perpetrator. Its no wonder Roger left, especially when I consider how I stood quiet at the time, rationalizing not to get involved.
Notice how Kesh tries to paint Roger going public by painting it as "self- embarrassment" and planting the seed of dubious intention by accusating the victim of playing it up as a "martyr" and for good measure says the victim "exaggerated". If any of you have studied bullying or been bullied, you'll recognize this tactic. I didn't write the words in Keshav's post, I'm pointing out the shocking truth about it.
What the .... business is it of yours what I do while waiting for a train?...
Kesh, listen, you're on vacation, I think you have 4 weeks left. For now, may I offer some advice: Enjoy the rest of it by disconnecting, that's what vacations are for, we will still be here so you can resume the flame war when you settle back home. Disconnect, stop looking for wifi to visit the forum, in fact put down electronic devices. Dont worry, you can continue this spat later, for now take a break. Have some fun without interruptions of any kind. It's not fair to those you're around trying to enjoy a holiday, I'm sure visiting this thread must be causing some affect. For now, clear your thoughts and emotions and be present in the moment with your companion.