Rossi sure he can win another title

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64501

Valentino Rossi is sure he can return to title winning form in MotoGP, even though he concedes he is facing the toughest rivals of his career at the moment.

The Italian finished third overall in the standings last year, in a season dominated by Casey Stoner on the Ducati.

And although Rossi admits he has questioned whether he feels he can add to his tally of seven world titles, he is convinced that he still has what it takes to be number one.

"Sure, there is no doubt about this - all riders when they don't win anymore or don't win a lot ask themselves the question: 'will I be able to win again?'" he told Motor Cycle News.

"For me the answer is yes, because I hope to win the world title again. I really want to get it again."

Rossi claims the threat from young rivals Stoner and Dani Pedrosa is greater than that posed by former title contenders Max Biaggi and Sete Gibernau.

"The rivals now are better than in the past," he said. "Biaggi and Gibernau were very strong riders, but today Stoner and Pedrosa are of a new generation and they are stronger.

"I am in the middle of the two generations. I don't feel worse than in the past and I still think I am very fast. But I need everything to be in the right place. My rivals are very strong and you can't give them an inch."

Let the onslaught from all the Rossi haters begin.

Good thing Vale is good at drawing out the hate on this forum, and looking forward to 08. So blow it out your .....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Traverser @ Jan 2 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]105647[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Let the onslaught from all the Rossi haters begin.

Good thing Vale is good at drawing out the hate on this forum, and looking forward to 08. So blow it out your .....



hell yes the only thing i have a problem with is the part about biaggi and gibernau, sorry but neither of those riders dani/casey would have a cat in hells chance of beating those 2 back then on that machinery, on todays machinery yes back then no chance..............

i think rossi has more than one title in him, i hope he stays for more than one. i just think he will have to adapt his style for todays machinery, oooops i meant electronics.......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Traverser @ Jan 3 2008, 04:04 AM) [snapback]105647[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Let the onslaught from all the Rossi haters begin.

Good thing Vale is good at drawing out the hate on this forum, and looking forward to 08. So blow it out your .....



Well I don't know what your problem is but that's the most rational thing I read that rossi has said all season!!


At least now maybe he will concentrate on himself and not everything but himself ..... only then do I see him "pulling a rabbit out of a hat" and winning another WC. And I believe he is right .... these new guys are a lot faster than much of the competition he has had in the past.

He has willpower to do it again. Just wait and see how M1 spec 08 goes

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryMachine @ Jan 2 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]105649[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
And I believe he is right .... these new guys are a lot faster than much of the competition he has had in the past.



no i think you missed the point.

they are only faster because they are learning on the bikes the way they are now, they are learning on the new gen machines not going throuh a transition, every rider that is coming from the past are having trouble with todays bikes/electronics

the machines are easier to ride for noob's and they are not used to old habbits, i think rossi meant that if gib and biaggi were racing now in motogp then yes the new gen would be quicker, but wouldnt be quicker on the older bikes.

Well of course Rossi believes he can still do it, if not..what the point?
I do think he can do it, but it will be really hard. After almost winning in 06, I thought he'd win last year, but he wasn't able to do so. Stoner was simply too good. This season will be interesting. Will Stoner be as dominant like he was in 07?? Will the gap between Ducati and Yamaha decrease?? If he has the bike, he (Rossi) can do it. Time will tell..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 2 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]105662[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
no i think you missed the point.

they are only faster because they are learning on the bikes the way they are now, they are learning on the new gen machines not going throuh a transition, every rider that is coming from the past are having trouble with todays bikes/electronics

the machines are easier to ride for noob's and they are not used to old habbits, i think rossi meant that if gib and biaggi were racing now in motogp then yes the new gen would be quicker, but wouldnt be quicker on the older bikes.


Rossi's english is still quite bad for someone who lives in England... anyway i think your right about it.

Also i think he needs a competitive bike not one nearly competitive to race at this level today.

If one bike is electronically spot on, the other needs to be equally as good because its arguable if the difference can be made up by the rider now.

Maybe a speed disadvantage is still not too big a problem 5km or less.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Franco Fangio @ Jan 2 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]105664[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Well of course Rossi believes he can still do it, if not..what the point?
I do think he can do it, but it will be really hard. After almost winning in 06, I thought he'd win last year, but he wasn't able to do so. Stoner was simply too good. This season will be interesting. Will Stoner be as dominant like he was in 07?? Will the gap between Ducati and Yamaha decrease?? If he has the bike, he (Rossi) can do it. Time will tell..


the yamaha has to be quicker this season without a doubt, but im also thinking back to assen when the tyres actually held out for the whole race,
is that why he went for bridgestones ??? better durability ??? cos even on the yam at assen he still managed to get 1st from 11th because his tyres held out and the bike worked well.

he still has the capability's so lets hope he gets the tools.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 2 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]105648[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
hell yes the only thing i have a problem with is the part about biaggi and gibernau, sorry but neither of those riders dani/casey would have a cat in hells chance of beating those 2 back then on that machinery, on todays machinery yes back then no chance..............

i think rossi has more than one title in him, i hope he stays for more than one. i just think he will have to adapt his style for todays machinery, oooops i meant electronics.......



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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 3 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]105662[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
no i think you missed the point.

they are only faster because they are learning on the bikes the way they are now, they are learning on the new gen machines not going throuh a transition, every rider that is coming from the past are having trouble with todays bikes/electronics

the machines are easier to ride for noob's and they are not used to old habbits, i think rossi meant that if gib and biaggi were racing now in motogp then yes the new gen would be quicker, but wouldnt be quicker on the older bikes.



No that's what you meant not him.
It's a simple interview with simple statements.
Why do you guys insist on putting your own spin on it?
If you haven't worked out Dani and Casey are tougher nuts to crack than Sete and Max were, then you haven't been watching. You can blame whatever helps you sleep at night for that, but no matter what the regulations, Dani and Casey on factory bikes are going to be a huge challenge for him every single race. For what it's worth I still think he has at least another WC left in him despite the competition. Lorenzo may be another to challenge in future and I'd love to see Dovi on a factory bike in the not too distant future as well just to see what he's capable of. Something tells me he might be top shelf as well on the right machinery.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frizzle @ Jan 2 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]105683[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
No that's what you meant not him.
It's a simple interview with simple statements.
Why do you guys insist on putting your own spin on it?


It wouldn't be the first time the media take something Rossi says and twists it.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frizzle @ Jan 2 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]105683[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
If you haven't worked out Dani and Casey are tougher nuts to crack than Sete and Max were, then you haven't been watching.


Sete and Max were there before Rossi so why would they be any easier to him than Dani and Casey who have 2yrs experience.

Its because Sete and Max rode and understand the way Rossi does and Dani and Casey have moved along with the technical Advancements of the sport.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 2 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]105667[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
the yamaha has to be quicker this season without a doubt, but im also thinking back to assen when the tyres actually held out for the whole race,
is that why he went for bridgestones ??? better durability ??? cos even on the yam at assen he still managed to get 1st from 11th because his tyres held out and the bike worked well.

he still has the capability's so lets hope he gets the tools.


Don't forget Sachsenring too. Yeah, Rossi binned it, but the Michelins were clearly stronger. I think Rossi may have had a chance in that race as well, even though Pedrosa was on a mission.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frizzle @ Jan 2 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]105683[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
No that's what you meant not him.
It's a simple interview with simple statements.
Why do you guys insist on putting your own spin on it?
If you haven't worked out Dani and Casey are tougher nuts to crack than Sete and Max were, then you haven't been watching. You can blame whatever helps you sleep at night for that, but no matter what the regulations, Dani and Casey on factory bikes are going to be a huge challenge for him every single race. For what it's worth I still think he has at least another WC left in him despite the competition. Lorenzo may be another to challenge in future and I'd love to see Dovi on a factory bike in the not too distant future as well just to see what he's capable of. Something tells me he might be top shelf as well on the right machinery.


lol what, you think he meant casey and dani back then, casey could'nt even stay on a 990 and it was just to brutal for dani's little arms so why would you think rossi meant they could compete back then??? he was talking about NOW! the 800cc with the electronics.


sure casey is king of the hill on the duke and good luck to him, but accept he was extremly lucky to have a bike that suited him from day one, some other riders cant even get there bike setup for the whole season....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 3 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]105662[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
no i think you missed the point.

they are only faster because they are learning on the bikes the way they are now, they are learning on the new gen machines not going throuh a transition, every rider that is coming from the past are having trouble with todays bikes/electronics

the machines are easier to ride for noob's and they are not used to old habbits, i think rossi meant that if gib and biaggi were racing now in motogp then yes the new gen would be quicker, but wouldnt be quicker on the older bikes.


can you really believe all that crap you come up with?

Every rider out there now has come up with "electronics" .... even Capi and Barros ....

They all have TC Rossi included

They all went 800

Stoner was the only one to perform on Bridgestones



Watch this vid. .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9elCd9z62Y

and look at that ride and tell me the guy can only ride/win because he has "electronic help"

The last person I saw ride that impressively was Rossi at his peak ..... then Doohan before him

Rossi needs to get back to riding like that if he ever wants to be at the front again.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryMachine @ Jan 3 2008, 04:12 AM) [snapback]105699[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
can you really believe all that crap you come up with?

Every rider out there now has come up with "electronics" .... even Capi and Barros ....

They all have TC Rossi included

They all went 800

Stoner was the only one to perform on Bridgestones
Watch this vid. .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9elCd9z62Y

and look at that ride and tell me the guy can only ride/win because he has "electronic help"

The last person I saw ride that impressively was Rossi at his peak ..... then Doohan before him

Rossi needs to get back to riding like that if he ever wants to be at the front again.


im not taking nowt away from stoner i just like twisting the knife a little like you do to us rossi fans, ive seen that video before it is impressive but im sure if we had the onboard view of rossi at assen like that would look just as impressive, also the angry roar of the ducati makes it even more intense.
trouble is with stoner hes a agressive rider and doesnt know his limits thats were the electronics come into play, there for has already taken to much away from a rider not knowing his own limits.
i know they have had traction control in past but now they are just gettin to carried away with it, yes rossi will have to up his game to beat him and dani, if he gets the bike he needs you will witness him doing so.

no hard feelings just different opinions

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 3 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]105701[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
im not taking nowt away from stoner i just like twisting the knife a little like you do to us rossi fans, ive seen that video before it is impressive but im sure if we had the onboard view of rossi at assen like that would look just as impressive, also the angry roar of the ducati makes it even more intense.
trouble is with stoner hes a agressive rider and doesnt know his limits thats were the electronics come into play, there for has already taken to much away from a rider not knowing his own limits.
i know they have had traction control in past but now they are just gettin to carried away with it, yes rossi will have to up his game to beat him and dani, if he gets the bike he needs you will witness him doing so.

no hard feelings just different opinions


Then why do you not compalin about Rossi winning ( or even riding ) with the aid of "electronics" ?? They have been around for years and Rossi is the king of electronics aids, to complain about them seems nothing short of ridiculous. I therefore tend to think a guy at Rossi is more likely to come out with such as the self improvement statements as we see above. Either that or the pressure of two years of not being the top guy has got to him a bit and he is coming out with these ridiculous claims. You have to go back furter than Rossi to get to the "non-electronic aid" riders thats for sure!

So quit complaining about them as if Stoner could not have done it without electronic aids. Only a select few folk know what Stoners or Capi's or Rossi's or whomsoever's TC did for each race so it is pure drivel to spout out about them.

If you want to complain about Stoner not winning on his merits then perhaps look closer at the 800cc change that would be more productive .... both he and Pedrosa are physically "slighter" guys than say Rossi so I could believe that was harder for Ross ... but TC or engine mapping ???? ridiculous.


PS. Even if Rossi or anyone was disadvantaged by TC or EMS's then its there own fault for not setting it up right for each race in the first place. Both Stoner and Rossi run the same system anyway

Don't get me started on "Standard ECU's" that also will be "the death" ..... imagine making manufacturers put the same ECU in for every car!! ..... stupid! unless they run the exact same engine ..... thats not what Grand Prix racing has ever been about .....

All that aside I don't believe Rossi would win on a non-TC bike anyway ... these new guys and Pedrosa are more attuned to not riding with TC ( 250 class ) ( hence why Stoner has his setup so "odd" ) so Rossi would get a shock after so many years on a bike dependent on TC. Hell even the yamaha engineers came out and put fuel on the "crazy fire" buy informing us that the Yamaha TC uses GPS to change the electronics at different parts of the track. Hows Rossi going to go now if that is switched off??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryMachine @ Jan 2 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]105699[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9elCd9z62Y


This vid is awesome but somewhat misleading. No doubt Stoner is a man on a mission and an incredible talent but we saw this type of spirited riding from Capi in 06 at Brno.

Resurfaced tracks are usually low grip like brno. Bridgestone/Ducati destroys on low grip circuits b/c no other team can match the way the Ducati electronics complement the Bridgestones. Watch the Czech round from 06, you will see another man riding just like this. It seemed unreal at the time, just as this lap seems unreal.

I'm not going to lie, Casey is an incredible talent, but people need to quit trying to slam a square peg thru a round hole. The kid will grow up and race, his career will be his legacy.

Many people have said he doesn't deserve to win, blah blah blah. You can't win 10 races if you're a scrub, the kid can obviously ride better than most on the grid on any given day.

But you have to admit, considering his complete disregard for the laws of physics, there is a good chance electronics have helped steepen his learning curve just as much as his new B-stones.

How can you tell? Many race this season looked like Qatar 06, only this season his tires rarely melted when he tries to win the race on the first lap.

One way or another he needs to continue. I'm going to be disappointed if there is a new champion in 2009 and he didn't have to get through Stoner to win it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Traverser @ Jan 2 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]105647[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Let the onslaught from all the Rossi haters begin.

Good thing Vale is good at drawing out the hate on this forum, and looking forward to 08. So blow it out your .....

I'm not sure what's the big controversy. So he said he can win another title. That sounds totally realistic and not really news. If he would have said, he doesn't think he can win another title, well that would be news worthy.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mylexicon @ Jan 3 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]105708[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
This vid is awesome but somewhat misleading. No doubt Stoner is a man on a mission and an incredible talent but we saw this type of spirited riding from Capi in 06 at Brno.


so how many wins did Capi take to get the title in 06 then?? ...... Stoner rode like a "beestung pup" on many races at the beginning of the season .... then began to look a bit more confident .... thats racing .... thats what Rossi was like when he was at his prime ..... thats what most other WC winners have exhibited ..... haven't seen Capi do that for a long run of several races for a while now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Jan 3 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]105709[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I'm not sure what's the big controversy. So he said he can win another title. That sounds totally realistic and not really news. If he would have said, he doesn't think he can win another title, well that would be news worthy.




thats about the crux of it..... I think it really is a very realistic statement to make .... perhaps the most realistic we have heard all year