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Im pretty sure once Vale visits this fabled race he is going to want to race it. being the compiteter that he is i wouldnt doubt seeing him race the Isle of man in a year or 2 or maybe definetly when he finishes with Motogp
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The California Kid @ May 14 2009, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im pretty sure once Vale visits this fabled race he is going to want to race it. being the compiteter that he is i wouldnt doubt seeing him race the Isle of man in a year or 2 or maybe definetly when he finishes with Motogp
He once said years ago that he flirted with the idea but his managment said no.
I think he will look at all the TT greats that have lost there lives there then look at his lavish life style and ask himself whats to be gained and lost. Aint ever going to happen me thinks.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 14 2009, 06:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah a parade lap for yamaha marketing purpose. Pitty he aint going to race.

I don't think Rossi has the balls to really race it out with these guys. These guys that race in the Isle of Man TT have big balls to compensate for their lack of skills on actual roadcourses, not to say they aren't decent racers..... but put these guys on actual race tracks against pro riders and they look nothing more than your average weekend warriors. And I doubt Rossi was ever serious about racing in the Isle of Mann TT if he ever did contemplate it, probably just said it so that people won't think he's intimidated by it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ May 14 2009, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't think Rossi has the balls to really race it out with these guys. These guys that race in the Isle of Man TT have big balls to compensate for their lack of skills on actual roadcourses, not to say they aren't decent racers..... but put these guys on actual race tracks against pro riders and they look nothing more than your average weekend warriors. And I doubt Rossi was ever serious about racing in the Isle of Mann TT if he ever did contemplate it, probably just said it so that people won't think he's intimidated by it.
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Are you for real ?? So you dont know off joe Dunlop and dave jefferys just to name a couple.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ May 14 2009, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't think Rossi has the balls to really race it out with these guys. These guys that race in the Isle of Man TT have big balls to compensate for their lack of skills on actual roadcourses, not to say they aren't decent racers..... but put these guys on actual race tracks against pro riders and they look nothing more than your average weekend warriors. And I doubt Rossi was ever serious about racing in the Isle of Mann TT if he ever did contemplate it, probably just said it so that people won't think he's intimidated by it.

You heard of Carl Fogarty ?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 14 2009, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Are you for real ?? So you dont know off joe Dunlop and dave jefferys just to name a couple.

Exactly.. Haliwood, Hislop, Fogarty, Read, Surtees oh yeah and a certain guy named Agostini are others that come to mind.

Your a ....... ...... SS56, go do some history before making ........ posts. On the other hand it is good entertainment seeing you make a complete ... out of yourself over and over and over etc....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ May 14 2009, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't think Rossi has the balls to really race it out with these guys. These guys that race in the Isle of Man TT have big balls to compensate for their lack of skills on actual roadcourses, not to say they aren't decent racers..... but put these guys on actual race tracks against pro riders and they look nothing more than your average weekend warriors. And I doubt Rossi was ever serious about racing in the Isle of Mann TT if he ever did contemplate it, probably just said it so that people won't think he's intimidated by it.

WTF SS56 ?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ May 14 2009, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't think Rossi has the balls to really race it out with these guys. These guys that race in the Isle of Man TT have big balls to compensate for their lack of skills on actual roadcourses, not to say they aren't decent racers..... but put these guys on actual race tracks against pro riders and they look nothing more than your average weekend warriors. And I doubt Rossi was ever serious about racing in the Isle of Mann TT if he ever did contemplate it, probably just said it so that people won't think he's intimidated by it.
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Are you not aware that the Island used to be part of the Grand Prix calendar? Are you similarly unaware of names like Carlo Ubbiali, Geoff Duke, Les Graham, Carl Fogarty, Steve Hislop, Phil Read, Mick Grant, Jim Redman, Gary Hocking, John Surtess...and here's two that even you might have come across despite your overwhelming stupidity - Giacomo Agostini and one Mike Hailwood do they not ring a bell? All of which I think you'll find could just about hold their own on the short circuit.

Is someone sponsoring you to be an ..... of such immense magnitude?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 14 2009, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Are you not aware that the Island used to be part of the Grand Prix calendar? Are you similarly unaware of names like Carlo Ubbiali, Geoff Duke, Les Graham, Carl Fogarty, Steve Hislop, Phil Read, Mick Grant, Jim Redman, Gary Hocking, John Surtess...and here's two that even you might have come across despite your overwhelming stupidity - Giacomo Agostini and one Mike Hailwood do they not ring a bell? All of which I think you'll find could just about hold their own on the short circuit.

Is someone sponsoring you to be an ..... of such immense magnitude?

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I am sure that Agostini bloke was half decent. Hailwood.....apparently he was OK as well
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 14 2009, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>so you see ss56 you know ..... stick to what you know. Wanking.

hahahahahahahahaha Quality Rog..subtle as ever
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 14 2009, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Are you not aware that the Island used to be part of the Grand Prix calendar? Are you similarly unaware of names like Carlo Ubbiali, Geoff Duke, Les Graham, Carl Fogarty, Steve Hislop, Phil Read, Mick Grant, Jim Redman, Gary Hocking, John Surtess...and here's two that even you might have come across despite your overwhelming stupidity - Giacomo Agostini and one Mike Hailwood do they not ring a bell? All of which I think you'll find could just about hold their own on the short circuit.

Is someone sponsoring you to be an ..... of such immense magnitude?
The Island has an exceptional racing heritage, of that there's no doubt. There is still the question of what the abilities of the current participants are relative to the best world-class riders compared to when the participants were the best world-class riders. I don't think any of us will deny that certain aspects of racing have changed a lot over the past 2 or 3 decades. Safety at pretty much everywhere except the Island has gotten a lot better. Money's gotten bigger, and the bigger names have specialized more. To pick another random name and event, Eddie Lawson was world champ and Daytona 200 champ in 1986. Would a world champ contender likely entertain the idea of competing in that race today? No. It's a race for domestic support series riders these days. I'm not at all suggesting that the races on the Isle of Man have suffered a similar downfall - but I want to make it clear that the schedule of todays top racers and those of the top racers of the past are a lot different.

Today, a top rider contesting a race like the Isle of Man TT would expose himself to greatly elevated danger relative to "normal" racing and impose a significant financial risk on his sponsors and team. Your list is heavy on guys that raced a long time ago, with some relatively recent national-level champions as well. There's enough reason for most world-class riders to stay away these days. It doesn't mean it's not an amazing race and spectacle, but to claim that racers like Agostini, Read, Ubbiali, etc represent an accurate sample of the racers that contest the TT in modern times is more than a bit of a stretch. An outside "elite" rider contesting the TT these days is the excpetion rather than the rule.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ May 14 2009, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Island has an exceptional racing heritage, of that there's no doubt. There is still the question of what the abilities of the current participants are relative to the best world-class riders compared to when the participants were the best world-class riders. I don't think any of us will deny that certain aspects of racing have changed a lot over the past 2 or 3 decades. Safety at pretty much everywhere except the Island has gotten a lot better. Money's gotten bigger, and the bigger names have specialized more. To pick another random name and event, Eddie Lawson was world champ and Daytona 200 champ in 1986. Would a world champ contender likely entertain the idea of competing in that race today? No. It's a race for domestic support series riders these days. I'm not at all suggesting that the races on the Isle of Man have suffered a similar downfall - but I want to make it clear that the schedule of todays top racers and those of the top racers of the past are a lot different.

Today, a top rider contesting a race like the Isle of Man TT would expose himself to greatly elevated danger relative to "normal" racing and impose a significant financial risk on his sponsors and team. Your list is heavy on guys that raced a long time ago, with some relatively recent national-level champions as well. There's enough reason for most world-class riders to stay away these days. It doesn't mean it's not an amazing race and spectacle, but to claim that racers like Agostini, Read, Ubbiali, etc represent an accurate sample of the racers that contest the TT in modern times is more than a bit of a stretch. An outside "elite" rider contesting the TT these days is the excpetion rather than the rule.

At least this guy knows what I'm talking about somewhat. Like I said.. Most riders who did race there with 'NAME' did do it while or after they were successful racer in 'road course' racing, especially back then when riders would raced with limited safety protection, heck they wore leather helmets.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 14 2009, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is someone sponsoring you to be an ..... of such immense magnitude?

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faaacking hilarious
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ May 15 2009, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>At least this guy knows what I'm talking about somewhat. Like I said.. Most riders who did race there with 'NAME' did do it while or after they were successful racer in 'road course' racing, especially back then when riders would raced with limited safety protection, heck they wore leather helmets.


Thats nothing like what you said in your first post!!

Matt made some good points and you tried to make them your own
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You said nothing of past riders "These guys that race in the Isle of Man TT have big balls to compensate for their lack of skills on actual roadcourses".

To say that John McGuinness, Steve Plater, Bruce Anstey, Ryan Farquhar, Guy Martin, Cameron Donald... etc are lacking in skill is absurd and only shows what you really know about racing which is nothing
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 14 2009, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Are you not aware that the Island used to be part of the Grand Prix calendar? Are you similarly unaware of names like Carlo Ubbiali, Geoff Duke, Les Graham, Carl Fogarty, Steve Hislop, Phil Read, Mick Grant, Jim Redman, Gary Hocking, John Surtess...and here's two that even you might have come across despite your overwhelming stupidity - Giacomo Agostini and one Mike Hailwood do they not ring a bell? All of which I think you'll find could just about hold their own on the short circuit.

Is someone sponsoring you to be an ..... of such immense magnitude?
These are all names Rossi is associated with on the Track being that hes one of the greats if not the greatest. But Rossi is not your typical road racer and he has nothing to prove on the track or at the bank$$$$ So i think after hes done with moto gp and bord at home he'll go out and prove something by wining the tt. I think being that most succesful racers stray from the tt due to all the risks is what attracts Rossi to it
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The California Kid @ May 15 2009, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>These are all names Rossi is associated with on the Track being that hes one of the greats if not the greatest. But Rossi is not your typical road racer and he has nothing to prove on the track or at the bank$$$$ So i think after hes done with moto gp and bord at home he'll go out and prove something by wining the tt. I think being that most succesful racers stray from the tt due to all the risks is what attracts Rossi to it


It would be great for Rossi to give the TT a go, but in a few years when he is done with Gp's will he really have the desire to do it(win the TT). I cant see him walking in and winning it in his first year. Its where the real passion of road racing is(not the short circut racing that SS56 confuses himself with thinking thats real road racing) I can see him doing it for the love and fun of it but I reckon hes going to go to rally.

Check out this thread, scroll down to post 5. Joey and David Jefferies talks us thru a lap
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