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Randy Mamola Thread

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the championship is all but over...However, we saw at Indianapolis that Valentino Rossi is human

there is pressure on Rossi and it is going to stay on because every single session is a fight between him and Lorenzo. There will be no relenting until the end of the season in what has become a ... for tat battle: ‘anything you can do I can do better’.

James Toseland and Chris Vermeulen – two hugely talented riders, World Champions in their own right, who we should not be saying goodbye to at this stage. Lots of people like to take a pop at the guys who aren’t scoring the top results and I’d like to remind those people of how close this sport is

in this case I don’t think the likes of Álvaro Bautista, Marco Simoncelli or Hector Barberá are going to be any better than the guys we look set to lose. The ideal scenario is for them to come up and join those guys!

Some riders aren’t able to get as much out of the softer tyres as others. A classic example is Alex de Angelis, who showed excellent race pace in practice, couldn’t improve on the softer rubber and then made a desperate start from seventh on the grid, taking Nicky Hayden and Colin Edwards out with an ill-advised lunge in the second turn. That was a real shame by the way because those three guys all had good pace and could have been slinging mud at each other for the whole race.

As for Ben Spies, I would like him to come, you would like to think he wants to come and you would have to think Dorna want him to come too - we know Yamaha do! I know Speed TV in America have started to show same-day broadcasts of his races, which is a sign of his popularity over there, and having been as dominant as he has in WSB, this is the natural step. You read different things in different places but the Yamaha press release leaves any possibility open. As far as I know, the agreement is that if he becomes World Champion he’s most likely to come to MotoGP.

Casey Stoner get your butt back here - we need some more colour at the front of these races!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Sep 12 2009, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>James Toseland and Chris Vermeulen – two hugely talented riders, World Champions in their own right, who we should not be saying goodbye to at this stage. Lots of people like to take a pop at the guys who aren’t scoring the top results and I’d like to remind those people of how close this sport is
Thanks for the reminder, Randy... In fact its so close (midpack) that any one of thirty or so riders could fill those seats with the same results... I'm for new blood.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Sep 12 2009, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>in this case I don’t think the likes of Álvaro Bautista, Marco Simoncelli or Hector Barberá are going to be any better than the guys we look set to lose. The ideal scenario is for them to come up and join those guys!
Ideally there'd be thirty bike son the grid, but that ain't gonna happen, Randy... Again go with variety... it IS the spice of life after all...
 
ty clark good read.
yeah randy spies has a clause if he wins WSBK.its got to be that
that's why TECH3 are waiting to announce 2nd rider
good point will the rookies all ready signed up be better than the riders all ready there .?
as usual new blood will come in that cant be bad really.and it free's seats up in moto2.etc
allowing the usual 125 riders moving up a class & 250/moto2 riders feeding the motogp class as a rule
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Sep 11 2009, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks for the reminder, Randy... In fact its so close (midpack) that any one of thirty or so riders could fill those seats with the same results... I'm for new blood.

Ideally there'd be thirty bike son the grid, but that ain't gonna happen, Randy... Again go with variety... it IS the spice of life after all...

I am a fan of Vermuelen simply by sheer nationality so I don't like the idea of him disappearing into the ether and going to another category, so am somewaht disappointed with the rookies replacing him. But, there is a time when results speak louder than any potential of a rider and where one can only survive based on past results for so long (CV remaining the only Suzuki race winner in MotoGP).

How good would it be to one day have the 30 or so bikes on teh grids of th good old days when true privateers existed and raced these guys, but sadly as you know it will not happen anytime soon due to the pure costs of the sport nowadays.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Sep 11 2009, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>good point will the rookies all ready signed up be better than the riders all ready there .?
as usual new blood will come in that cant be bad really.and it free's seats up in moto2.etc

Onthe rookies, I just hope that they are not judged purely on a first year basis when measured against those whom they replace, as they should all be given a minimum of 2 years just to give a truer indication of their abilities and place within MotoGP.

The MotoGP comment is interesting as could we start to see the likes of CV/JT and others who lose or potentially lose seats in MotoGP looking at Moto2 aboveWSBK?






Gaz
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Sep 12 2009, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks for the reminder, Randy... In fact its so close (midpack) that any one of thirty or so riders could fill those seats with the same results... I'm for new blood.

Ideally there'd be thirty bike son the grid, but that ain't gonna happen, Randy... Again go with variety... it IS the spice of life after all...

Mick in the Colin Edwards thread you had a go at me because I think he's had his time and should move on...what's goin on in that head of your mick too much Thia buddha?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lad @ Sep 11 2009, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Mick in the Colin Edwards thread you had a go at me because I think he's had his time and should move on...what's goin on in that head of your mick too much Thia buddha?
I think everyone is for new blood, the more riders into the sport the better. However CE deserves a place. He's consistently been amongst the top two or three riders outside of Rossi etc., doesn't chuck it down the road that often and he offers tremendous feedback. He's a good guy to have in your garage and so long as he can finish in that fifth to eighth place range, he deserves a GP ride. Same goes for Cappers.
 
Time will tell. I am not going to postulate that one guy is better than another especially at Suzuki but new blood is new blood. There will be a difference when Bautista gets in the saddle simply because he has no history and will not be disgruntled. Sure CV deserves to be but guess what it is a free world and he could have moved long ago. I am not a guy that wants to see tenure in the motogp world I want results and where one guy matches one bike or another is a big deal and hard to see beforehand but easy to see in hindsight. What is not working is not working and never will. Clearly the guys getting the boot have been there for a while with a decent chance to be in the bigs. I think they all have had a fair chance with none being turfed after one year. Sorry....next.

Stoner yes come back the whole motogp world is not right without you kicking Rossi's spoiled ......unless of course you don't want to anymore and then that is another whole thing and then all I can say is try the salted tubes you won't be disappointed. Anyway, Mamola and I at least agree on that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lad @ Sep 12 2009, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Mick in the Colin Edwards thread you had a go at me because I think he's had his time and should move on...what's goin on in that head of your mick too much Thia buddha?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 12 2009, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think everyone is for new blood, the more riders into the sport the better. However CE deserves a place. He's consistently been amongst the top two or three riders outside of Rossi etc., doesn't chuck it down the road that often and he offers tremendous feedback. He's a good guy to have in your garage and so long as he can finish in that fifth to eighth place range, he deserves a GP ride. Same goes for Cappers.
Weird... Oost are you some kind of mind reader? Your reply succinctly captured my thoughts, so I guess all I have to add is... I like Colie & Capirex!!
 
Chris Vermeulen is a big disappointment I must say, I expected alot more from the guy. All his teammates has gotten the best of him, John Hopkins who some say is highly overrated and an aging past his prime Loris Caparossi. IMO Vermeulen should get the axe and make room for the young and upcoming riders. Would be interesting to see how Vermeulen does in WSBK if he's to go back there.

I don't know what it is about Vermeulen, to me it seems he's just got a too laid back personality which carries over onto the bike.... he needs to flick the switch and become a monster on the machine if he's to ever be taken seriously as a rider.
 
I for one believe (no evidence) that Capirex forced the issue when he came to Suzuki that there be some heirarchy in development and treatment in the garage.

CV and Hoppers did duel. Sometimes Hoppers cameout on top sometimes CV.
Capirex would not have made the jump if he wasn't going to run development....
All of this is speculations.. What I do know is that Capirex is getting the new parts and CV is campaigning for them. Capirex is getting the new engine and CV was begging for the upgrades..

CV. I rate him better than Toseland. Just as good as CEII. Did anyone rate him better than Melandri last year.

For Motogp the gaps are down to setup, bike, tyres and electronics. (and bike development)
I am sure that Dovisioso would run with Lorenzo on a Factory Yamaha. He is struggling on the Pedrosa 800.

Vermi would run with CEII on the Tech3 machine, he may even be faster and give Dovi a run for the money..
It's a shame to see him go...
 

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