I am a notorious Rossi/Stoner/Marquez/Pedrosa/Lorenzo fanboy/hater.
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I am a notorious Rossi/Stoner/Marquez/Pedrosa/Lorenzo fanboy/hater.
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Nothing friendly about Rossi. He puts a much better face on things now than he used to. His unfriendlyness is legendary. That's why I started this thread.
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Yeah!! That a boy.
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let me ask you this...do you think motoGP would be more interesting if VR would retire?
mind you - the first race i ever watched was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY9mrKR5SkA
which i totally wish i would have started sooner, but i was youngster back then. so i don't think i've been around the scene long enough to truly understand your deep rooted opinion.
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I'm not a Rossi fan so wether or not he stays or goes would do nothing to effect my viewership of the series. That being said, I know millions of people feel differently. He's a rare combination of charisma and skill. He wields them both simultaneously to get his way and manipulate both friends an foe.
As for whether or not MotoGP would have less intrigue without him, sure, for a time until other personalities stepped up. When Stoner left I was disappointed, that lasted a season and now it seems like 100 years ago. Millions think Rossi is "cute" with his antics. I think he's a master manipulator and has often shielded his true intention to undermine and stifle his most serious competitors (Biaggi, Gib, Stoner). I think there's a chance we'll see that come out again if the points situation stays close.
Make no mistake, I wanted Rossi to catch Marquez in Argentina. I want to see race craft and close battles no matter if it's Rossi, MM, Dovi or Lorenzo. Rossi is good for the series for several reasons, none of which make me terribly passionate about him. I'm not foolish enough to claim that Rossi does not make there series more interesting. Clearly he does.
The "GOAT" got tons of interest and press circling the track in 10th position on a bike Stoner delivered to the podium weekend after weekend. All the while he was loved and called a living legend. That's the cult of personality he's cultivated.
Rossi's relationship with MotoGP/Dorna is symbiotic at this point. Dorna would have Rossi racing a wheelchair if they could. I'm not at odds with it.
EDIT: Yes, like most of you who've been here for years, I'm pretty sure our "littlesparrows" is someone we're all familiar with but I'm going with it for now.
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wait - wait - wait...so you think i'm someone else?
rest assured levigarrett - i'm someone you've never met & have never known.
I think MM has done some villainous things, in particular the Willairot incident to which reference has already been made, but imo he is hitherto far from having been allotted the role of the new "villain" of the circus; in fact when he has looked untouchable for much of his first 2 seasons he has been much closer to being the new hero, and probably with considerable justification.
I agree there is now some potential for him to become the villain if Valentino goes down to him in a close championship, but if he keeps making manouevres like the one in Argentina he will deserve that status imo.
As for Rossi, he is a ruthless on-track comeptitor but that goes with the territory of being a (very) great rider. The only undeniably "dirty" move he has ever pulled imo is the Gibernau last corner thing, but even that wasn't reckless or particularly dangerous. I didn't mind the antics when he was a teenage 125 rider, but considered them to be becoming tired by his mid 20s. Not very keen on his not very tacit encouragement of the demonisation of some of his closest competitors, as has been mentioned, by that element of his fandom
I agree there is now some potential for him to become the villain if Valentino goes down to him in a close championship, but if he keeps making manouevres like the one in Argentina he will deserve that status imo.
As for Rossi, he is a ruthless on-track comeptitor but that goes with the territory of being a (very) great rider. The only undeniably "dirty" move he has ever pulled imo is the Gibernau last corner thing, but even that wasn't reckless or particularly dangerous. I didn't mind the antics when he was a teenage 125 rider, but considered them to be becoming tired by his mid 20s. Not very keen on his not very tacit encouragement of the demonisation of some of his closest competitors, as has been mentioned, by that element of his fandom
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We have a highly entertaining history here of multi user names. Additionally, we tend to scare off newbies with some regularity. You on the other hand seem to have jumped in with both feet and are immune to the vitriol. That is suspect alone save the fact that you're a women. Hmm, jury out. No offense intended if I'm wrong. Either way, good times.
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I don't hate Rossi, I'm impartial to most of the riders for I just want to see good close racing. I'm just not a Rossi is the only thing that matters fanboy and realise that MotoGP is bigger than him alone. He's good, and I admire his skills, but when he gets beaten fair and square I applaud the person who did it.
His on screen persona is very different to his behind the scenes one from what I've heard, agreed.
Maybe not immediately, but it would recover. As I say, no rider is bigger than the sport. In many motorsport categories, pilots have retired/died and the sport still goes on. For sure right now, Rossi is the only one cosistently challenging Marquez and thus making it more interesting. But in 2013 it was Lorenzo bringing up the challenge to Marquez. So, swings and roundabouts, someone else will always come along.
Right now however, I'm more concerned with how Ryichi Kyonari has TOTALLY ...... me over in the MCN fantasy league, the .......!!!
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hey - to each his own. i'll keep on keepin' on...
i mean hell - dovi & iannone are making this year more interesting. i'm just happy that finally there are more riders challenging the baby champ.
also - i'm obviously a newbie or maybe not
just taking in information & points of view from my fellow motogp lovers. it's interesting to see other peoples POV rather than the only 2 other people i can actually discuss motogp with.
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i mean hell - dovi & iannone are making this year more interesting. i'm just happy that finally there are more riders challenging the baby champ.
also - i'm obviously a newbie or maybe not
Exactly, it's good to see Ducati up there. It's good to see Suzuki being relatively competitive. Aprilia are where they expected to be right now, but in a few years will hopefully be mixing it up too. I want to see a healthy competitive championship where each weekend 5 or 6 riders are in with a shot of winning, and that doubles if the weather plays a card. Too much lately we've see only 2 riders tops able to realistically win and since 2007 if you've been on a non factory bike, forget it.
I think thats why people (myself included) look back on 2006 with fondness. The last season of the firebreathing 990's, Satelite riders winning races and mixing it up, Suzuki and Ducati competitive, Melandri and Elias winning on Gresini Honda's, Kenny Roberts up there with the Roberts racing KR211V and Stoner getting poles and podiums in the LCR Honda (Think of it as like this season if Scott Redding was got pole at round 2 and nearly won at round 3 this yr on the VDS Honda).
I totally agree, differing views are what make places like this flourish
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Maybe...... it doesnt take much to get a degree. If Rossi thinks hes a doctor then Im going to call myself a gynocologist because I can spot cancerous ....... a mile away.
I have followed Hayden his entire career ( well except the year I was incarcerated ). I can tell you that I have only seen one marketing item from him in all those years. I was walking through the mall one day and I saw a life-size cardboard cutout of him outside of a jewelry store.
It was an advertisement for Tissot watches. I went inside and asked the manager if they would give me the cardboard cutout when they were done so I could glue it to the front of my blowup doll. I was going to role-play and dress up as HRC president and .... Hayden.
Sadly they never gave it to me but I do see a Bradl cutout has replaced the Hayden one. So Nicky gets the exact amount of marketing exposure as Stefan Bradl in America
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Jeeezzus, keeping track of the alter ego's is getting fuking hard around here. I estimate there are actually only 4 people using this board. Standby, I'm going to create my own alter...
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don't get butt hurt - it's just the internet.
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Don't mouth off to me Jumkie or I'll kick your ... in Indy!
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Just human nature (for some) that once they've been in the spotlight they have a difficult time returning to a life of anonymity. People get addicted to the attention. He doesn't need the money - and he's not getting any glory from winning races. He just can't face being a has-been and living in rural Kentucky with the hillbillies. That's what I liked about Stoner. He'd made his mark and was not sucked in by the shallow glamor of showbiz. He stayed true to his roots and had no trouble turning his back on the glitz and bling. Like Roberts, Lawson, and Schwantz - he was about the racing. They all had very strong personalities; the kind that didn't require hot and cold running umbrella girls, champagne and layouts in GQ in order to fill fulfilled. They did what they were destined to do and then moved on.
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