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Iowegian said:
I would imagine even his position on the grid, he is still brining in a pretty good amount of money. I wouldnt have the slightest idea what Aspar pays him, but he is still in some Dainese ads and is prominent in Tissot's promotion.
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I thought he was paid by American Honda, Dorna and little bit by Aspar. He is pretty much riding to sell bikes in the USA, and at the pleasure to Dorna in America....

Kropotkin said:
I don't know for certain. The impression I get is that his wrist is ....... But Hayden gets very cagey if you ask him questions about it, says it's just fine. Which means it's ....... But that is just my guess, so don't quote me on it.
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So in short, he is riding to keep the American audiences happy to their ignorance of his inability to ride at his best.....Time for Nicky retire before he hurts himself further....
 
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Oh no, please don't tell me you're a Rossi boppa!!?!?
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holy .... - i had to urban dictionary "boppa" because i didn't know what the .... you were saying.

and who the .... cares? MM is an adorable baby rider, iannone is an adorable little hipster in his tight pants & vans and dani is so tiny i can scoop him up.

when all ya'll gawk at the paddock .... - i gawk at motogp riders.

so - suck it.
 
MigsAngel said:
I thought he was paid by American Honda, Dorna and little bit by Aspar. He is pretty much riding to sell bikes in the USA, and at the pleasure to Dorna in America....



So in short, he is riding to keep the American audiences happy to their ignorance of his inability to ride at his best.....Time for Nicky retire before he hurts himself further....
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You honestly think anyone in the US watches MotoGP because Nicky is in it? I don't know any of those types to he honest. Sure, my main man Jumkie is a fan but he'll still be watching long after Nicky is gone and so will everyone I know.

Additionally, I have never seen a billboard in the US with Nicky's face on it. I have however seen them in both Spain and Italy. Not long ago either. Why Nicky remains in GP I suspect is about making a living. Would you turn down the money? Why sponsors and teams want him is about marketing I suppose. I don't really see it but I'm not a MotoGP team principle looking to pay the bills. Clearly someone somewhere thinks he's a better option than the next best guy and until he's consistently being beaten by those riding the same equipment, he's got an argument for continuing.

Nobody on here complains about Kerel Abraham who's never done a single thing in GP except light his fathers money on fire. Can any of you tell me why Bradl is still around (who happens to be nearly in last place after 4 events)? I suspect it has something to do with his German passport. Why was Miller brought up from M3 so early? Again, passport. Like I said in another thread, this series needs international entrants for various reasons. We've got one American, one German, one French, one Aussi and one Columbian. None of which will podium this year...
 
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levigarrett said:
You honestly think anyone in the US watches MotoGP because Nicky is in it? I don't know any of those types to he honest. Sure, my main man Jumkie is a fan but he'll still be watching long after Nicky is gone and so will everyone I know.

Additionally, I have never seen a billboard in the US with Nicky's face on it. I have however seen them in both Spain and Italy. Not long ago either. Why Nicky remains in GP I suspect is about making a living. Would you turn down the money? Why sponsors and teams want him is about marketing I suppose. I don't really see it but I'm not a MotoGP team principle looking to pay the bills. Clearly someone somewhere thinks he's a better option than the next best guy and until he's consistently being beaten by those riding the same equipment, he's got an argument for continuing.

Nobody on here complains about Kerel Abraham who's never done a single thing in GP except light his fathers money on fire. Can any of you tell me why Bradl is still around (who happens to be nearly in last place after 4 events)? I suspect it has something to do with his German passport. Why was Miller brought up from M3 so early? Again, passport. Like I said in another thread, this series needs international entrants for various reasons. We've got one American, one German, one French, one Aussi and one Columbian. None of which will podium this year...
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I am not denying there are a more than a few grid fillers that get their rides due to their passports. However, only Nicky is a former MotoGP champion...
In my view, MotoGP should clear the decks of the also rans ... and allow more room for young guys to come in to the championship.....

The USA surely can find 1 guy to take Nicky's passport slot on the grid....but
it would seem the cant....and while Nicky is keeps the seat then there is no motivation for Dorna or any team to find another American...

K.Abraham should never be where he is....nor should Bas or Yonny.....
Bradl earned his slot, but now he should lose it...but mostly likely he will end up on the KTM in 2017...

And no I wouldnt turn down the money if i needed it.....but does Nicky really need the money? I suspect not....and if he does then that make the situation that much sadder for him...

And if Nicky doesnt sell bikes in the USA then why does American Honda keep backing him to be in GPs?
 
Nicky sells hondas in the US??? I a motorcycle dealer and have been to a lot of shows in the US in the last couple years, I have yet to see any porters or marketing material with him on it... ironically I still a lot of nicky merchandise being sold by ducati vendors
 
MigsAngel said:
I am not denying there are a more than a few grid fillers that get their rides due to their passports. However, only Nicky is a former MotoGP champion...
In my view, MotoGP should clear the decks of the also rans ... and allow more room for young guys to come in to the championship.....

The USA surely can find 1 guy to take Nicky's passport slot on the grid....but
it would seem the cant....and while Nicky is keeps the seat then there is no motivation for Dorna or any team to find another American...

K.Abraham should never be where he is....nor should Bas or Yonny.....
Bradl earned his slot, but now he should lose it...but mostly likely he will end up on the KTM in 2017...

And no I wouldnt turn down the money if i needed it.....but does Nicky really need the money? I suspect not....and if he does then that make the situation that much sadder for him...

And if Nicky doesnt sell bikes in the USA then why does American Honda keep backing him to be in GPs?
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I've got no real problem with any of this. I do not believe that Nicky is an effective marketing tool in the US but a cannot disprove your theory. I'd also like to see the series clean of guys who cannot compete but that's not a financial reality because many of these guys are here for a reason. Also, if MotoGP were going to attempt to have a more uniform field of riders down the ranks, we'd need more uniform bikes at the same time.

I don't think you can keep top quality riders near the bottom of the sheet if the best their bike can do is run 2.5 seconds a lap slower than the RCV/Ducati/Yam. If and when Suzuki and Aprillia mature, perhaps we'll see better customer bikes avail. I'm really not sure.
 
Kropotkin said:
Except win a Moto2 race, of course...
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Yes, true. I like Abraham, he seems like a genuinely nice guy but I don't think there's a compelling argument to be made for the length of his tenure in GP. If you'd like to make one I'm all ears. TBH, I'm not against guys like him filling the ranks and never winning. I don't see a clear alternative to the current setup, particularly when we don't have race winning machines available to all the participants.
 
levigarrett said:
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In the last year or so there's been, in my estimation, a real change in Rossi's behavior and demeanor toward his fellow competitors. Rossi's jabs and mental maneuvers in past years are legendary. Now he seems genuinely open to having reasonable relationships with not only his teammate but his direct competition for the championship. Has there been a change in what you've seen in the paddock?

Why all the friendliness and is it genuine? When and why the change?
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Thank you for your question Mr Garrett. I believe I have the answer for you. You have to remember that this all started when Marquez broke into GP. Before that Kropo was in a decade long love affair with Valentino. They had quite a long and fruitfull relationship. Krop would write lengthly and passionite missives weekly, praising Rossi's abilities. The problem was Rossi long suspected that Krop was cheating, and because of this he was defensive and unhappy.
When Marquez came along Kropos boy crush on him was apparent. As soon as Marquez was old enough to play with men, Krop dumped Rossi for Marquez. Rossi soon found out that all those years Krop was sucking Dornas ..... All of the stories Krop had been telling everyone were ........ and fabricated for the benefit of his Sugar Daddy Dorna.
Rossi is now happier and more relaxed now that his lying and cheating boyfriend is out of his life.
 
littlesparrows said:
holy .... - i had to urban dictionary "boppa" because i didn't know what the .... you were saying.

and who the .... cares? MM is an adorable baby rider, iannone is an adorable little hipster in his tight pants & vans and dani is so tiny i can scoop him up.

when all ya'll gawk at the paddock .... - i gawk at motogp riders.

so - suck it.
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I like you, you'll get on well here :)

P.S. I'm alll about the bikes in the paddock, except for Dani...he fascinates me in a dwarf ....star kinda way
 
It's quite simple. Rossi is a smart guy, and has a lot of experience. There are a few versions of Valentino and he chooses the best in any situation. Vale alfa, Vale beta...

As said, Lorenzo hasn't managed to create a single good version of himself (speaking about media skills here)
 
The flip side to that is that riders aren't paid to be media clowns. In Rossi's defence he's made it work for him but they are primarily employed to win bike races. So I'm sure Jorge's 2 MotoGP WC's make up for him not create a single good media personality....
 
rotondas said:
It's quite simple. Rossi is a smart guy, and has a lot of experience. There are a few versions of Valentino and he chooses the best in any situation. Vale alfa, Vale beta...

As said, Lorenzo hasn't managed to create a single good version of himself (speaking about media skills here)
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IMO, although Vale somewhat "steals the show" - he makes light of almost every situation (or at least from what i've seen as a viewer) - Lorenzo is happy when he wins - pouts when he doesn't win. which, fine - i understand you can be hard on yourself, but all-in-all Lorenzo is a technically smooth & great rider. i know people who hated him, then after going to race realizing he's an amazing rider. I just wish he wasn't such a boner sometimes & would be happy, less awkward & not do hover hands & not always worry about his receding hairline.
 
JohnnyKnockdown said:
Thank you for your question Mr Garrett. I believe I have the answer for you. You have to remember that this all started when Marquez broke into GP. Before that Kropo was in a decade long love affair with Valentino. They had quite a long and fruitfull relationship. Krop would write lengthly and passionite missives weekly, praising Rossi's abilities. The problem was Rossi long suspected that Krop was cheating, and because of this he was defensive and unhappy.
When Marquez came along Kropos boy crush on him was apparent. As soon as Marquez was old enough to play with men, Krop dumped Rossi for Marquez. Rossi soon found out that all those years Krop was sucking Dornas ..... All of the stories Krop had been telling everyone were ........ and fabricated for the benefit of his Sugar Daddy Dorna.
Rossi is now happier and more relaxed now that his lying and cheating boyfriend is out of his life.
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And amazingly during much of his phase of pro-Rossi bias he simultaneously had a strong pro-Stoner bias.
 
I'm talking about audience and interest. Look, Lorenzo is a very good rider, no doubts, but for the show he sucks, he is just a number and nothing more.

The hero does not need more than 1 vilain. Marquez took the crown from Casey. Jorge never was considered a vilain, only a "route deviation". Lorenzo is just one more good rider and that is it, just like Dovizioso.

I mean that Valentino Rossi x currently vilain is what really sells tickets, TV audience and stuff, is what really moves the event from a "good" show to a rocket fantastic show. General people around the world (outside OUR world of bike and fanatism) wants to see the hero. Who is the hero? There are only one. Still, VR.

I don't like Rossi that much, but we need them so much in MotoGP. VR shakes this sport SO much, but SOOOO much that the day he quits, MotoGP will suffer badly from lack of public interest. Fanatism beside, let's just admit it, ok?

When I say "nobody", I mean the "vast majority" of public fans of the sport. Rossi is the hero and period. Marquez is the current vilain, just like Biaggi, Gibernau, and Stoner.

Lorenzo is just like Capirossi and Hayden. Nobody gives a .... and thinks that their winning was just and accident. And he will never had public attention because he does not have the appeal.
 
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oh please - MM the villain...that's the funniest .... i've seen on here.

that little ...... is just an entertaining rider, shaking up the dynamic of motogp. kicking ... & taking names. since he's been destroying everyone on the track the past few years - i'm seeing this year as VR being the underdog. he's the old ......, who used to be like MM but is nearing an end & is trying to take back his glory.

PS. do you all have psychology degrees?
 
Of course MM is the villain, for he is the one who at the moment stops MotoGP being MotoRossi, the Rossi boppers would love to see Rossi get every pole, fastest lap and race win, hell they'd even be happy if it was just the Open Hondas out there against Rossi on a Factory Yam, for he'd win all the time, even with no competition, they don't care.

MM is the villain atm, just like Lorenzo was before him, Stoner was before him and Hayden was before that.
 
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Of course MM is the villain, for he is the one who at the moment stops MotoGP being MotoRossi, the Rossi boppers would love to see Rossi get every pole, fastest lap and race win, hell they'd even be happy if it was just the Open Hondas out there against Rossi on a Factory Yam, for he'd win all the time, even with no competition, they don't care.

MM is the villain atm, just like Lorenzo was before him, Stoner was before him and Hayden was before that.
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i guess if you hate rossi that much and want there to be a villain for him. i see it more as friendly competition. i really enjoy the battles that have been happening so far this year. especially since ducati has also stepped up! to say the least, it makes it way more interested than last year - :sleep:
 

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