Pedrosa, what do you think ?

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2 wins?
mostly podium finishes?
good rider that doesnt fight alot?

and still win the world championship????

Hayden did it......

Haha
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain Snow @ Jul 7 2008, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>2 wins?
mostly podium finishes?
good rider that doesnt fight alot?

and still win the world championship????

Hayden did it......

Haha
YEah Hayden did it with that little ....... wreckin into him at estoril to. Little piece of .....
 
Dani will just run along no fuss ...... and if the top three are close by the end and it comes down to who wins Valencia then 08 is Pedrosas.

But> There;s a long way till then ..... and if 07 is anything to go by:

Rossi ...... starts the season well but dwindles after about half way

Pedrosa just rambles on ...

Stoner starts great .... then bawbles .... then hit hard after half way through the season ( just like the Ducati power curve
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and Pedrosa rambles on ....

Pedrosa rambles on then grows balls/kahunas/2 feet taller, and is unbeatable at home.
 
Maybe we need the cone of silence to mention "you know who", "you know what" and "you know where" , compared with "you know who", "who did what" and "you know who did what with who knows who".
Getting back to someone who can be mentioned, ie Pedrosa, he's definately a contender, but he needs a bit more aggression when things start heating up at the front. Consistency wins titles but if you have 2 rivals who are very close in the points standing, then chances are that you're going to need to be able to win the occasional dog fight to stay ahead of the rest. To me he hasn't shown that aggression yet. He's still young, but to me Stoner and Lorenzo (of the young brigade) show a lot more of the fighting attitude needed to be a champ.
Saying that, Hayden did it, so what do I know!
 
They say if you have nothing nice to say then not to say anything at all. But I say .... that. We all know Pedrosa is fast, but it doesn't matter because he is still an ........ It will take a few more disasters by Rossi and Stoner for this dwarf to win a title. I'm betting he will sport the #3 next year. If he had one DNF like Stoner and Rossi have had (well at least virtually) then the points picture would look very different. Somebody here said his bike "suits" him, well no ...., that's what happens when you custom design a bike for a 98 pound midget.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 7 2008, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They say if you have nothing nice to say then not to say anything at all. But I say .... that. We all know Pedrosa is fast, but it doesn't matter because he is still an ........ It will take a few more disasters by Rossi and Stoner for this dwarf to win a title. I'm betting he will sport the #3 next year. If he had one DNF like Stoner and Rossi have had (well at least virtually) then the points picture would look very different. Somebody here said his bike "suits" him, well no ...., that's what happens when you custom design a bike for a 98 pound midget.
hahahaha.......oh man.......I admit, I pretty much danced around this point in my post. I've really given up on understanding how a guy can be racing the best guys in the world, and show ABSOLUTELY no pleasure in his accomplishments.....I'd be ...... doin cartwheels if I beat any one of these guys.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 8 2008, 06:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They say if you have nothing nice to say then not to say anything at all. But I say .... that. We all know Pedrosa is fast, but it doesn't matter because he is still an ........ It will take a few more disasters by Rossi and Stoner for this dwarf to win a title. I'm betting he will sport the #3 next year. If he had one DNF like Stoner and Rossi have had (well at least virtually) then the points picture would look very different. Somebody here said his bike "suits" him, well no ...., that's what happens when you custom design a bike for a 98 pound midget.

Hmm I always wondered why some Nicky fans hate Dani so much. The Portugal incident at the end was not decisive since Nicky won the title and I'm sure Nicky has been knocked down by other riders in his career.
I guess it all boils down to the fact that Dani was so much faster than Nicky from day one, even with the 990cc and they have to come up with hundreds of unbeliavable excuses to try and explain why Dani beats Nicky pretty much always.
It's quite sad you cannot accept when a better rider comes by and beats your rider. I myself lied to myself for a while in 2001 when Rossi beat Criville but hey it's still 2 years and you guys still live in denial. It's about to time you open your eyes and notice Nicky is simply not as good as Dani.
 
I don't think Dani will get the title, he reminds me of Max a reliable 3rd, there's 2 people in front of him with a little more fight in them.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 8 2008, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's about to time you open your eyes and notice Nicky is simply not as good as Dani.

don't get your hopes up buddy
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 8 2008, 06:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's about to time you open your eyes and notice Nicky is simply not as good as Dani.

ummm, who won the Moto GP Championship in 06?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jul 8 2008, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ummm, who won the Moto GP Championship in 06?
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In 2006 Nicky was the better rider, but that doesn't make it the still the case.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 8 2008, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In 2006 Nicky was the better rider, but that doesn't make it the still the case.

I agree, not on a POCKET bike.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jul 8 2008, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ummm, who won the Moto GP Championship in 06?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>In 2006 Nicky was the better rider, but that doesn't make it the still the case.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I agree, not on a POCKET bike.

and the circle is complete!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 8 2008, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmm I always wondered why some Nicky fans hate Dani so much. The Portugal incident at the end was not decisive since Nicky won the title and I'm sure Nicky has been knocked down by other riders in his career.
I guess it all boils down to the fact that Dani was so much faster than Nicky from day one, even with the 990cc and they have to come up with hundreds of unbeliavable excuses to try and explain why Dani beats Nicky pretty much always.
It's quite sad you cannot accept when a better rider comes by and beats your rider. I myself lied to myself for a while in 2001 when Rossi beat Criville but hey it's still 2 years and you guys still live in denial. It's about to time you open your eyes and notice Nicky is simply not as good as Dani.
Ya know man what does it matter all the spanish riders put together don't even come close to Italians anyway. Or Americans, British, .... even Aussies. Got a long way to go bro and I hope you pray alot if you think that little shitass pedrosa is going to take the title. I hope Hayden gets his revenge in Estoril especially if he still has the lead by then. What comes around goes around.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Jul 8 2008, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and the circle is complete!

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Would you consider that a WIN for me?
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...cause that would be 3 for 3 today against TOM!
SUCK IT TOM! SUCK LONG AND SUCK IT HARD!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 8 2008, 05:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmm I always wondered why some Nicky fans hate Dani so much. The Portugal incident at the end was not decisive since Nicky won the title and I'm sure Nicky has been knocked down by other riders in his career.
I guess it all boils down to the fact that Dani was so much faster than Nicky from day one, even with the 990cc and they have to come up with hundreds of unbeliavable excuses to try and explain why Dani beats Nicky pretty much always.
It's quite sad you cannot accept when a better rider comes by and beats your rider. I myself lied to myself for a while in 2001 when Rossi beat Criville but hey it's still 2 years and you guys still live in denial. It's about to time you open your eyes and notice Nicky is simply not as good as Dani.

Teo, you don't understand because you think this is the only egregious act Dani has done to Nicky. Most people who think Hayden fans don't like Pedrosa make an error in thinking its only because of the Portugal incident. And even if that were the case, it’s still enough not to like him. That crash was caused because jealousy blinded the arrogant fool, and showed as much in his reaction after the crash. His continued antics and talking .... about Hayden has only served to prove his lack of decent character and hence why Hayden fans and fans of other riders do NOT respect him. He's a prideful son of a ..... who has a sense of entitlement; unfortunately, those around him like Puig and team Repsol cater to this flaw. I don't think its a matter of bland personality, I thing he really believes he is superior to his competitors in ability and status. You say we are cross because he is "faster", and say we make up excuses. Well answer this question. Was the 07 bike designed for Dani or Nicky in mind? (The answer is a no brainier, there is plenty of evidence to answer this question, the only way you could say it was for both would be to deny reality thus showing your blind bias). I don’t know yet what your answer is, but if its like most that would admit it was designed for Pedrosa, then this might give you some insight to why he is “faster” as you say. I don’t really know how you could say he was better than Nicky in 06, last I checked he didn’t win the title, or runner up. Obviously this topic has been written about much, but you and people like you still manage to say it was 'solely' because of the Portugal crash. But where have you been the last two years? Have you not read time and time again the arrogant comments by a man who as of yet NOT won jack ....?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 7 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well I think he's definately good enough to beat both cause he already did it, he beat Vale last year and he beat Stoner (1st motoGP season, though you can argue Stoner didn't have an HRC bike like him and in 250cc)

This year IMO he has the handicap of the bike. The Ducati is a bike hard to judge due to the results of the other Ducati riders, but clearly the Yamaha is a better bike. We've seen a rookie win with it, we've seen Edwards do his best season so far, we've seen a full Yamaha podium. What have the other Honda's done?

If Honda doesn't improve I think it will be hard for Dani to keep Rossi and Stoner behind. If Honda does fix their pneumo engine and advance as HRC usually does Dani should win this championship, or if he doesn't it will be his fault.
I agree ,after the summerbrake in Brno we will see who gets the best upgrades on their bikes.Probarbly every factory bike will be better then,maybe the HRC Honda is going to turn out to be the best one. In other words Pedro's:dntknw:
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 8 2008, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Teo, you don't understand because you think this is the only egregious act Dani has done to Nicky. Most people who think Hayden fans don't like Pedrosa make an error in thinking its only because of the Portugal incident. And even if that were the case, it’s still enough not to like him. That crash was caused because jealousy blinded the arrogant fool, and showed as much in his reaction after the crash. His continued antics and talking .... about Hayden has only served to prove his lack of decent character and hence why Hayden fans and fans of other riders do NOT respect him. He's a prideful son of a ..... who has a sense of entitlement; unfortunately, those around him like Puig and team Repsol cater to this flaw. I don't think its a matter of bland personality, I thing he really believes he is superior to his competitors in ability and status. You say we are cross because he is "faster", and say we make up excuses. Well answer this question. Was the 07 bike designed for Dani or Nicky in mind? (The answer is a no brainier, there is plenty of evidence to answer this question, the only way you could say it was for both would be to deny reality thus showing your blind bias). I don’t know yet what your answer is, but if its like most that would admit it was designed for Pedrosa, then this might give you some insight to why he is “faster” as you say. I don’t really know how you could say he was better than Nicky in 06, last I checked he didn’t win the title, or runner up. Obviously this topic has been written about much, but you and people like you still manage to say it was 'solely' because of the Portugal crash. But where have you been the last two years? Have you not read time and time again the arrogant comments by a man who as of yet NOT won jack ....?
Nah to me he hasn't done any egregius act to Nicky at all. He ...... up at Estoril and took down another rider, it was unfortunate that the other rider was his teammate but it happens all the time. He did act as a teammate the next race staying put behind Nicky to maximise Nicky's title chances and it all worked fine.
All the nonsense about antics and .... talking I wont ever bother discussing I completely disgree, everything I've hear him say in all his career is what any other rider would say, maybe you should read something else than superbikeplanet et al that seem so biased and false I wonder it they were written by Nicky's mom.
I don't know if HRC developed the 07 bike to suit Dani (I really doubt it since this projects start more than a year before they are on track, and by the time Dani wasn't even in MotoGP) but anyway if they fine tuned the design to suit Dani I find a very reasonable thing to do since it became obvious to them, and to all the rest of the world (that isn't a Nicky fan) who was the better rider for the future.
As you correctly quoted I said faster, not better, Nicky was the better overall rider in 2006 (I mean between teammates, obviously Rossi was better).
Oh and by the way, Dani is a 3x world champion, which is far from "NOT winning jack ....", I will not write an example of what not winning jack .... is cause I don't have anything against Nicky and it would be cruel to him to point the finger at him just to piss you off like you pretend to do the other way round.
I wish Nicky the best, he seems a decent guy and and he is a good rider.
 
I don't care for #2. I don't want to look at it or smell it. #2 says it all.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 8 2008, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmm I always wondered why some Nicky fans hate Dani so much. The Portugal incident at the end was not decisive since Nicky won the title and I'm sure Nicky has been knocked down by other riders in his career.
I guess it all boils down to the fact that Dani was so much faster than Nicky from day one, even with the 990cc and they have to come up with hundreds of unbeliavable excuses to try and explain why Dani beats Nicky pretty much always.
It's quite sad you cannot accept when a better rider comes by and beats your rider. I myself lied to myself for a while in 2001 when Rossi beat Criville but hey it's still 2 years and you guys still live in denial. It's about to time you open your eyes and notice Nicky is simply not as good as Dani.
All power to you for standing up for your guy, not a popular stance on this forum. I gather he is a fellow countryman, which is a strong reason for many of us even on here to support the riders we do. I guess the non-italian rossi fans can argue they have the moral high ground
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I don't particularly like or dislike dani, but I think he is an excellent rider with a strong chance of winning the world championship. I warm more to hayden, but I think to be engaging and witty in your third or fourth language when you are just out of your teens and all you have done since your early teens is race motorbikes is quite difficult. Rossi could do it, but as many on here keep saying (and I keep agreeing with them) he is quite exceptional, and probably a desendant of the florentine princes who invented modern politics.

Does anybody really believe the hayden thing, whilst strategically unsound in the circumstances at the very least, was anything other than an attempt to beat hayden in that race? It was also his first season, and most if not all have taken out other riders in their careers, although doing so to your own team-mate is admittedly less common. The other point if honda are as malevolent as is perceived to be the case by many, including me to an extent, is that honda may not have issued any team orders.
 

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