Pedrosa to Ducati!

http://www.solomoto.es/

Basically it says: Pedrosa has not singed with Honda even if Tetsuo Suzuki said a basic agreement was there… Italian media says Pedrosa would end up at Ducati!

....!

Do these journalist have a shred of integrity? Geez, what next, ROSSI TO DUCATI?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 20 2009, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> ....!

Do these journalist have a shred of integrity? Geez, what next, ROSSI TO DUCATI?

It is getting worst than a Reality Show, isn’t it?

if this does actually happen i will shred my sack and post pics in the "lounge"

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J708 @ Aug 21 2009, 08:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>if this does actually happen i will shred my sack and post pics in the "lounge"

It won't happen. But would love to see Pedrosa riding that Ducati on the 13rd grid, with Puig holding the umbrella......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J708 @ Aug 20 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>if this does actually happen i will shred my sack and post pics in the "lounge"
WTF

Anyway, if Lorenzo does go to Ducati, I have a question. Will the Rossi boppers (inam & talpa, & co.) finally realize just how extraordinary Stoner is as a rider if Lorenzo goes like Melandri & Hayden? Will they finally say, yup, the Ducati is ....? Or will they still hold to their crazy idea that somehow the Ducati had some special clairvoyant power gifted to Stoner?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 21 2009, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> ....!

Do these journalist have a shred of integrity? Geez, what next, ROSSI TO DUCATI?

lol maybe Stoner to Fiat Yam No 2 seat.

Do you know I think that 80% of the rumours around the paddock started their life on 'Powerslide'

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 21 2009, 06:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>WTF

Anyway, if Lorenzo does go to Ducati, I have a question. Will the Rossi boppers (inam & talpa, & co.) finally realize just how extraordinary Stoner is as a rider if Lorenzo goes like Melandri & Hayden? Will they finally say, yup, the Ducati is ....? Or will they still hold to their crazy idea that somehow the Ducati had some special clairvoyant power gifted to Stoner?

Or if Lorenzo is super fast will you declare that Stoner is not the evangelical messiah that you continually claim he is? Nope - thought not.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Aug 21 2009, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Or if Lorenzo is super fast will you declare that Stoner is not the evangelical messiah that you continually claim he is? Nope - thought not.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Aug 21 2009, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Or if Lorenzo is super fast will you declare that Stoner is not the evangelical messiah that you continually claim he is? Nope - thought not.



Oh, my turn.

And if Lorenzo is blidningly fast will you and the others say that Stoner can develop a bike that others can ride fast?

Nope, thought not.








Gaz

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Aug 21 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh, my turn.

And if Lorenzo is blidningly fast will you and the others say that Stoner can develop a bike that others can ride fast?

Nope, thought not.








Gaz


one-upmanship tennis brilliant!

can we all watch?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Aug 21 2009, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>

one-upmanship tennis brilliant!

can we all watch?




Tickets please.




Gaz

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Aug 21 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh, my turn.

And if Lorenzo is blidningly fast will you and the others say that Stoner can develop a bike that others can ride fast?

Nope, thought not.








Gaz

I will say that Stoner is a developmental genius who can develop bike that one person (other than himself) out of three established world champions (one a Moto GP world champion) can be remotely successful on!

I don't have a problem with admitting Stoner's talent. He owned everyone in his world championship season and did the same in parts in 08 until the pressure got too much and he started parking it. The pressure has clearly continued to get him; leading to his current absence from Moto GP.

Clearly there is something about the Ducati that he can get to grips with that others cannot. Melandri has proved this year that he still has talent on probably the worst bike in the field; he just didn't get on with the Ducati. Whilst Hayden is making progress; he doesn't look likely of finding the podium on the Ducati any time soon. The Ducati is not short of power; it seems Stoner's ability is to be able to channel this power.

As for the tyre debate. Does anyone believe that Honda did not move heaven and earth in an attempt to stop Rossi winning on his first season on a Yamaha? I think that Honda probably have more influence with Michelin than any rider?

It always makes me laugh when the Rossi haters go on about the Rossi boppers - they are two sides of the same "none so blind as those that don't want to see" coin.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Aug 21 2009, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As for the tyre debate. Does anyone believe that Honda did not move heaven and earth in an attempt to stop Rossi winning on his first season on a Yamaha? I think that Honda probably have more influence with Michelin than any rider?

Big statement and whilst I can see your logic behind it I cannot see that Michelin would have played the game you suggest.

I say this as Rossi at that time was the rider, the world champion and the revered one, thus Michelin stood to win a lot of kudos by ensuring as best they could that Rossi would win the title, for the saem reasons as VR himself.

Michelin had an opportunity to show the world that they could make tyres for any bike that were both competitive and could win championships, thus they would have moved heaven and earth to ensure that VR got what he required to win that championship (same goes for Yamaha and all otgher influential aspects of that time). Reality and logic would also say that in 2008 Bridgestone would have made the same efforts for Rossi once he came on board as he is seen by many as representing the sport itself.

Failure by either Michelin or Bridgestone to move everything for Rossi would have meant a failure in their business as both recognise who the goose that lays the golden egg is.




<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Aug 21 2009, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It always makes me laugh when the Rossi haters go on about the Rossi boppers - they are two sides of the same "none so blind as those that don't want to see" coin.

Absolutely but many of those that see 'Rossi boppers' are not in many ways 'Rossi haters' so much as 'bopper haters' irrespective of the rider for whom those people are boppers (reference the continued attacks on Pinky and the late CSCVAW as examples and these are not Rossi fans).







Gaz

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Aug 21 2009, 03:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh, my turn.

And if Lorenzo is blidningly fast will you and the others say that Stoner can develop a bike that others can ride fast?

Nope, thought not.








Gaz

Or we will say that Nicky in one year developed a ridable bike. Casey didn't develop much but a doctors bill. Thats sounds right.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 21 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>WTF

Anyway, if Lorenzo does go to Ducati, I have a question. Will the Rossi boppers (inam & talpa, & co.) finally realize just how extraordinary Stoner is as a rider if Lorenzo goes like Melandri & Hayden? Will they finally say, yup, the Ducati is ....? Or will they still hold to their crazy idea that somehow the Ducati had some special clairvoyant power gifted to Stoner?

I will be a bopper all you want Jumks… but I insist it is just ‘one year’ (not a decade, or even 2 years as you insist). Perhaps Ducati can be shitier than Yamaha as of today (It has wan races this year).But only considering 2007, with the change on rules and cylinders… Ducati got it right, above every other manufacturer, that one year!

Year in which by the way, Yamaha got it wrong, even with engine failures. If we take Ducati, not only Stoner, both out of the equation, Yamaha is not ‘First’ but still behind Honda in the Manufacturer’s Championship. And Yamaha is ‘3rd’, behind Honda and even Suzuki in the Team’s Championship.

So, even if you want to extend that period, it was just that ‘One’ year (2007) when Ducati was better than Yamaha (with facts to prove it).

Now, talking only about Ducati; well yes, Stoner is the ‘Only One’ rider that got the Ducati right. I will give you that one. Meaning that Ducati got ‘One’ year right and only ‘One’ rider got it right. Quite simple.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Aug 21 2009, 03:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>one-upmanship tennis brilliant!

can we all watch?

Easy, can Stoner ‘Boppers’ admit it was just one year? (2007)

Nop, did think so.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Aug 21 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Or we will say that Nicky in one year developed a ridable bike. Casey didn't develop much but a doctors bill. Thats sounds right.

Return of server.

And if Lorenzo is blindingly mid=pack, can we blame Hayden for not developing the bike.

nope, thought not




<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Aug 21 2009, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Easy, can Stoner ‘Boppers’ admit it was just one year? (2007)

Nop, did think so.

What was one year - that he won the title.,

It is fact so it has to be admitted does it not.

Or, do you mean it was only the one year that CS could ride the bike like no other - as if so facts show otherwise.

Well, what is it man, for god sake, what is the question.










Gaz

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Aug 21 2009, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, what is it man, for god sake, what is the question.

Gaz

Man, you lost the plot… In the same post as the question, I was saying: “So, even if you want to extend that period, it was just that ‘One’ year (2007) when Ducati was better than Yamaha (with facts to prove it)”.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Aug 21 2009, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>…At the end, no matter what, the first 800cc Ducati was the best bike in 2007.

Constructors 2007 Championship:
1.- Ducati 394.
2.- Honda 313 (Without 14 from KR212V).
3.- Yamaha 283 (111 point difference to Ducati).
4.- Suzuki 241 (42 point difference to Yamaha).

Teams 2007 Championship:
1.- Ducati Marlboro 533.
2.- Repsol Honda 369.
3.- Rizla Suzuki 368 (Yes, above Yamaha… no mistake, Suzuki 3rd).
4.- Fiat Yamaha 365 (Oh well, that was what Rossi had then).

Guess what Jumkie; no one can make Ducati look bad in 2007!

http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/...ld+standing.pdf

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…I will be a bopper all you want Jumks… but I insist it is just 'one year' (not a decade, or even 2 years as you insist). Perhaps Ducati can be shitier than Yamaha as of today (It has wan races this year). But only considering 2007, with the change on rules and cylinders… Ducati got it right, above every other manufacturer, that one year!

Year (2007) in which by the way, Yamaha got it wrong, even with engine failures. If we take Ducati, not only Stoner, both out of the equation, Yamaha is not 'First' but still behind Honda in the Manufacturer's Championship. And Yamaha is '3rd', behind Honda and even Suzuki in the Team's Championship.

So, even if you want to extend that period, it was just that 'One' year (2007) when Ducati was better than Yamaha (with facts to prove it, see above).

Now, talking only about Ducati; well yes, Stoner is the 'Only One' rider that got the Ducati right. I will give you that one. Meaning that Ducati got 'One' year right and only 'One' rider got it right. Quite simple.

<u>Easy, can Stoner 'Boppers' admit it was just one year? (2007) </u>

Nop, did think so.