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GPOne.com is reporting that Jorge Martinez of Aspar may look elsewhere for MotoGP bikes for 2009. Aspar has made no secret of his intention to enter MotoGP next season, and his name has long been linked with Suzuki.

Now, however, Martinez is saying that Suzuki are asking for too much money for the privilege of running a third bike, and he may be forced to look elsewhere. Quite where Aspar could find other machinery is a bit of a mystery, as the other manufacturers have made it clear that they are pretty much at maximum effort supporting the current crop of bikes on the grid. Kawasaki is thought to be the only real alternative, as they are under pressure from Dorna to supply at least one more machine to help fill the grid.

An entirely speculative option is that Honda could possibly provide one more machine, as they managed to provide the extra sets of engines for Team KR during the 2006 and 2007 series. As the engine is by far the most expensive and time-consuming part of a motorcycle, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that Honda would be capable of supporting a 7th satellite RC212V.

Martinez also made it abundantly clear that he wanted to retain Alvaro Bautista, the young Spanish rider widely tipped to win the 250 world championship this year. If they cannot retain Bautista, however, Gino Borsoi, spokesman for the team, hinted that their preference would be for another Spanish rider. This statement is the clearest sign of problems for Ben Spies, who will be attempting to get a ride in MotoGP for 2009, and who had previously been linked with the Aspar team. Unless Spies can raise the money to fund the Suzuki factory bike for Aspar, his prospects of getting a ride look to have become more distant.
 
Is Schwantz starting a MotoGP team in 2009? Seems like I heard that before, or was that a wild rumor? If so, Spies would certianly be a favorite to ride for them.
 
Somebody remind me, did Spies turn down a ride for 08 in MotoGP and opted to take his chances for 09?
 
Spies will be in Moto GP 2009....Aspar or not....see ya later Loris....maybe even CV.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Apr 8 2008, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Spies will be in Moto GP 2009....Aspar or not....see ya later Loris....maybe even CV.
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Uhm, that may be a possibility Curve.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 8 2008, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Uhm, that may be a possibility Curve.


Not sure he turned anything down,i believe it was the binding contract he had with Yoshimura.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bull Goose @ Apr 8 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Povol, are you in fact Kropotkin from Motogpmatters.com? Because what you posted here is exactly what was posted on that site on April 3.

No,but that is where i copied and pasted from.Is that a no-no?
 
I just thought you should give credit where credit is due, with something like: "Hey everyone, I saw this on Motogpmatters.com" (with a link)

(then the article)

Back to the issue at hand, Mladin will get a huge psychological advantage over Spies if Spies doesn't even get a shot at Moto GP. That's assuming he sticks around for a few more years.
 
if Schwantz runs the team....his name alone will bring in sponsors for Spies...he'll be there.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bull Goose @ Apr 8 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I just thought you should give credit where credit is due, with something like: "Hey everyone, I saw this on Motogpmatters.com" (with a link)

(then the article)

Back to the issue at hand, Mladin will get a huge psychological advantage over Spies if Spies doesn't even get a shot at Moto GP. That's assuming he sticks around for a few more years.

Im kinda old and this internet stuff is still kinda new to me.In the future i will do just that.I figured anyone who has read my post and seen my sentence structure and spelling would automatically know i didnt write it.
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Getting back to the story,you guys might be right on an opening at Suzuki.There has been talk of Capirossi retiring and Vermy just isnt getting it done at the moment.There could possibly be 2 open seats next year.The next question is who is going to get West's seat cause he is as good as gone at Kawasaki.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Apr 8 2008, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im kinda old and this internet stuff is still kinda new to me.In the future i will do just that.I figured anyone who has read my post and seen my sentence structure and spelling would automatically know i didnt write it.
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Getting back to the story,you guys might be right on an opening at Suzuki.There has been talk of Capirossi retiring and Vermy just isnt getting it done at the moment.There could possibly be 2 open seats next year.The next question is who is going to get West's seat cause he is as good as gone at Kawasaki.

I believe Spies will be in. I don't expect much from him but what I do think is he will earn a factory ride at Laguna. I think Spies is a decent rider but NOT Hayden quality. However I have to hand it to Spies, the man can fly around Laguna and I bet he shocks some people in his wild card appearence.

As far as kwak goes... With a lack of up and comers, Roger lee might be a good fit especially with the new Monster deal since he is sponcered by them as well. All they really need is a better rider then West and I believe Roger is at least that, plus he brings more money form monster with him. It wouldn't be a shock move to me anyway. However if Spies comes over and Edwards sticks around, the grid would be too packed with Americans and Dorna might step in and squash that. All the europeans wouldn't want to tune in and watch the American cup.
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I believe Caparossi only has a one year contract with suzuki ? I think he will make way for spies ! And as for there is to many americans on the grid if spies joins ? The europeans might not tune in ? What a load of bollocks ! What about the glory days of the 500cc ? More american champs then, but still hugely supported by Europeans.
Edwards Out - Batista in
Caparossi Out- Spies in.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Apr 8 2008, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Edwards Out - Batista in
Caparossi Out- Spies in.

Bautista? for what? for being 11th in the championship right now? He had better start coming with some serious A game for that to happen. Right now 250's being won by a rookie with a gimp arm! (no offence to Pasini, the man is a great talent)

Like I said. I don't see any up and comers and I havent been sold on Bautista yet, he hasn't proven to be consistent.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Apr 8 2008, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>easy fix...how bout more ....... bikes on the grid...18 sucks ......
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (projekZERO @ Apr 8 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Bautista? for what? for being 11th in the championship right now? He had better start coming with some serious A game for that to happen. Right now 250's being won by a rookie with a gimp arm! (no offence to Pasini, the man is a great talent)

Like I said. I don't see any up and comers and I havent been sold on Bautista yet, he hasn't proven to be consistent.


Well he was headed for the win in Jerez until his engine crapped out, and he apparently got a defective tire at Qatar. It's kind hard to write someone off after 2 rounds. (Except Stoner, he's finished, hahaha.)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (projekZERO @ Apr 8 2008, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Bautista? for what? for being 11th in the championship right now? He had better start coming with some serious A game for that to happen. Right now 250's being won by a rookie with a gimp arm! (no offence to Pasini, the man is a great talent)

Like I said. I don't see any up and comers and I havent been sold on Bautista yet, he hasn't proven to be consistent.


i'm not sure what races you're watching, but Bautista is easily the strongest rider in the 250 lineup for '08.
 
I'd rather have JT than CV any day. CV has proven he is no great qualifier. He has to fight from mid pack all too often and he is not aggressive enough. He HAS to pick it up this year.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drumfu @ Apr 8 2008, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'm not sure what races you're watching, but Bautista is easily the strongest rider in the 250 lineup for '08.

Well I'm not sure about easily but certainly he is the strongest rider. Will he be on a MotoGP bike? I think he will, but i doubt it next year. And im not so sure he will win the title this year either, but possibly.
 

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