No more Petronas!

I think it's fair to say that the Petronas bikes were doomed from the start. On paper they never stacked up and this has been played out on the track. Yea it has ruined careers for sure but the one guy who did something with the bike was Corser. He said that because of the bikes sheer naffness (not his words, lol), it made him rider harder and better to compensate. Ultimately ending up with the WSB title again.

With all due respect for Foggys riding abilities, TT, WSB etc. the guy is too much of a gobshte for any serious manufacturer to pick up as a team manager. He always cited that he should be in GP's riding a factory 500 (but was only given wildcards which of the three times he rode, he crashed them twice). Sure he matured as a rider but his his off-track personality did him in. I mean who says in an autobiograhy "I was better than Sheene" and seriously mean it. The guy's a child and always will be....

That's my rant over I'm sure this will court some controversy.

PS. I am grateful to Foggy for what he bought to the sport in his career, 120k people at Brands etc. he put bike racing back on the map for the UK

He has shown interest in running a MotoGP team. He'd be a good personality to have in the paddock, don't know who would give him bikes or money though. But could you imagine a Foggy Team with Max Biaggi as the rider? It would be the most spectacular team in history.

good post pinkers

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinkers @ Feb 23 2006, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>With all due respect for Foggys riding abilities, TT, WSB etc. the guy is too much of a gobshte for any serious manufacturer to pick up as a team manager. He always cited that he should be in GP's riding a factory 500 (but was only given wildcards which of the three times he rode, he crashed them twice). Sure he matured as a rider but his his off-track personality did him in. I mean who says in an autobiograhy "I was better than Sheene" and seriously mean it. The guy's a child and always will be....

That's my rant over I'm sure this will court some controversy.
naa... agree 100%!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Feb 23 2006, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>. But could you imagine a Foggy Team with Max Biaggi as the rider? It would be the most spectacular team in history.
spectacular!!... circus freak show is more like it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Feb 23 2006, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I never liked the petronas bike, it's ruined too many careers,

Richo, after todays racing you have to worry about Craig Jones now. His confidence will be at an all time low. Even Whitham was quite frank about the bike on the commentary on Eurosport.

Let's hope it doesn't do Jones in!

When you're running a junk like that you need to be smart and don't kill yourself trying to follow guys with REAL bikes, your aim should be beating your teammate.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinkers @ Feb 25 2006, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Richo, after todays racing you have to worry about Craig Jones now. His confidence will be at an all time low. Even Whitham was quite frank about the bike on the commentary on Eurosport.

Let's hope it doesn't do Jones in!
kid made a huge mistake takin this ride.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinkers @ Feb 23 2006, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I mean who says in an autobiograhy "I was better than Sheene" and seriously mean it. The guy's a child and always will be....

PS. I am grateful to Foggy for what he bought to the sport in his career, 120k people at Brands etc. he put bike racing back on the map for the UK

You have gotta be gratefull wether we like him or not, that is right. Plus what he said about himself being better than sheene- Think about it, would he have won 4 world titles if he had never thought he was the best?.... think about it, to be the best at your game you have to believe that!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Feb 27 2006, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, and Rossi surely thinks he's better than Doohan. And he might be, but you don't go mouthing off about it. Especially riders like Sheene. Maybe one of his rivals, but it just proves the lack of respect Foggy has for...... anyone. IMO ex-champions like Sheene (Who is now dead, I remind you) Should be afforded great respect. Foggy had no business coming out in public and saying he's better than a rider who raced in a different championship to him 2 decades before him. Even if he thought that to give himself a mental edge, its not somthing he should make public.
just shows a lack of any kind of class.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RallyeRon @ Feb 27 2006, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You have gotta be gratefull wether we like him or not, that is right. Plus what he said about himself being better than sheene- Think about it, would he have won 4 world titles if he had never thought he was the best?.... think about it, to be the best at your game you have to believe that!!

Absolutely, but the question is his conduct off track not his ability on track. Every racer out there believes he is the best otherwise they'd never get up in the morning. Foggy just perpetuates his own idiocy by mouthing off through the press making irreleavent statements like the 'Sheene' thing. Different era makes it impossible to compare but if you ask any joe in the street....name a famous motorcycle racer they'll all say Sheene. Let's face it, stupid statements like that sell books the fact that he believes it makes it all the more sad!

I can't think of any other rider that has acted or continues to act the way that Foggy did/does. Biaggi comes close. Did you see Bayliss/Corser giving each hell after the race, slagging each other off through the press. No, they shake hands and chat something that was nigh on impossible for Foggy.

Hate was his fuel which he is frank about in his book (which I failed to finish) His whole approach to racing was to pick his closest rival and then attempt to assainate them through the press, often with success.

In his book he questions why he never got a factory ride? He was a marketing nightmare for most other manufacturers, he believed his own hype which is dangerous.