Nicky Hayden

I have been hearing a lot of criticism about Nicky which may be true but I wanted to say that if it wasnt for him, this season would not be very exciting.

On another day Nicky could have won the title a long time ago but due to his so called 'choking' the season will go down to the wire.

<u>thats from a interview:</u>

Q: How painful was the criticism from your competitors like Rossi or Edwards?

A: This is a part of the game. When you start and you are able to get the first good results then you get every support from the whole world. But when you have regular success the attitude of your opponents change and they start to criticize you. It’s obvious that many people don’t like it when you defeat a superstar.
Motocross driver Ricky Carmichael is a good friend fo mine. He has the same situation with Jeremy McGrath. As long as he was behind McGrath, McGrath was nice and friendly but when he starts to overtake him, he attacked him all the time.
The current situation don’t bother me, it’s OK like it is.
But it shows the level I’ve reached. I’m mental strong enough to cope with such attacks.

Interesting. Very true. Hopper is better.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pacman @ Oct 2 2006, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have been hearing a lot of criticism about Nicky which may be true but I wanted to say that if it wasnt for him, this season would not be very exciting.

On another day Nicky could have won the title a long time ago but due to his so called 'choking' the season will go down to the wire.

Not only hayden made the season exciting...there were a mix of situations: rossi's DNFs and injury, the rookies performance (Pedrosa Stoner specially), capirossi's good form in the beggining and now in the end plus the catalunya crash that took off two title contenders, melandri's victorys and so on... lots of thing made the season exciting.

Actually i'd bet if it weren't for hayden still there would be an intresting season...

hayden could easily won it and he could have easily lost it allready.... he was lucky at PI, at motegi...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Christiane @ Oct 3 2006, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'><u>thats from a interview:</u>

Q: How painful was the criticism from your competitors like Rossi or Edwards?

A: This is a part of the game. When you start and you are able to get the first good results then you get every support from the whole world. But when you have regular success the attitude of your opponents change and they start to criticize you. It’s obvious that many people don’t like it when you defeat a superstar.
Motocross driver Ricky Carmichael is a good friend fo mine. He has the same situation with Jeremy McGrath. As long as he was behind McGrath, McGrath was nice and friendly but when he starts to overtake him, he attacked him all the time.
The current situation don’t bother me, it’s OK like it is.
But it shows the level I’ve reached. I’m mental strong enough to cope with such attacks.
This is the first time I have heard of this, where did you get this from? and what kind of criticism?

Edwards? arent they ment to be cool?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xB Rida @ Oct 3 2006, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hopper is better.
no he's not.

lol! Aren't opinions great?!?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xB Rida @ Oct 4 2006, 05:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hopper is better.

Ok, XB, fair comment, Hopper is better than Hayden, who is leading the championship in front of five time world champ and, arguably the best rider ever, Rossi. But Hopper's rookie teammate on the same machinery beat him to a podium, and beat Hopper in his home race. So from this you can draw the conclusion that Vermulen is better than Hopper, who is better than Hayden, who is better than Rossi who is the best in the world. Which makes Vermulen the best rider ever...

If only the real world worked like my logic does

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xB Rida @ Oct 4 2006, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>lol! Aren't opinions great?!?Like backsides, we all got 'em.

I think Hayden will win the championship still - mainly not through him winning but through Rossi not being able to get in two wins. And that's my beef with Hayden, he's just not a great rider. After his win at Assen he claimed that he needed to win outside Laguna...but everyone else was injured! I mean - Edwards pushed him for the race win so the pace cant have been that hot.
I think Nicky's been good, not great and very lucky.

Hoppers is better? I think he is too. I also believe Vermin is better. And if we're talking of teammates Hayden's been outclassed by Pedrosa. When did Hayden put in a Donington like performance outside of Laguna?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stuey99 @ Oct 4 2006, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Hayden will win the championship still - mainly not through him winning but through Rossi not being able to get in two wins. And that's my beef with Hayden, he's just not a great rider. After his win at Assen he claimed that he needed to win outside Laguna...but everyone else was injured! I mean - Edwards pushed him for the race win so the pace cant have been that hot.
I think Nicky's been good, not great and very lucky.

Hoppers is better? I think he is too. I also believe Vermin is better. And if we're talking of teammates Hayden's been outclassed by Pedrosa. When did Hayden put in a Donington like performance outside of Laguna?
Since when has Hopper put in a performance like Pedrosa?

How is Nicky lucky, its not his fault that people like Rossi have had failures, he has made the most of it which is why he is the championship leader

I think people are being way too harsh on Nicky. He has impressed many people this season and its been his best season aswell. For me, I was surprised at how he took the fight to Rossi at Catalunya, Quatar and Mugello. Even though he lost out, he still showed how much he has improved over the years. People also need to remember that Nicky has finished ahead of Pedrosa, Melandri etc on many occasions this season but nobody wants to take that into consideration.

P.S. How many points does Rossi need to win the championship, how many points does 2nd place get and does Nicky need to beat Rossi at all?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Electric Mofo @ Oct 4 2006, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think people are being way too harsh on Nicky. He has impressed many people this season and its been his best season aswell. For me, I was surprised at how he took the fight to Rossi at Catalunya, Quatar and Mugello. Even though he lost out, he still showed how much he has improved over the years. People also need to remember that Nicky has finished ahead of Pedrosa, Melandri etc on many occasions this season but nobody wants to take that into consideration.

P.S. How many points does Rossi need to win the championship, how many points does 2nd place get and does Nicky need to beat Rossi at all?

He needs 12 points to tie and win the championship on number of wins or 13 points to win it outright.

Second place gets 5 points less than first. 1st gets 25 2nd gets 20.

Nicky does not need to beat Rossi, he can finish behind as long as they are both very well in the back so Rossi does not gather the necessary points. (All mathematically and in reality Rossi barely ever finishes that far back.) Finishing higher than him is extremely recommended! Or to finish right behind him to control the damage.

Am I right? If I'm not someone please correct me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Clutch time for Hayden

Championship leader Nicky Hayden has been assured that the clutch problems which have dogged him over recent races will be eradicated for the final two outings of the season.

Honda Racing's president Suguru Kanazawa has had to step in to calm Hayden's fears that technical problems could ruin his chances of winning his first Moto GP title.

The American rider's lead at the top of the standings has been cut to just 12 points after disastrous races at Phillip Island and Motegi, and now the American is under pressure from Valentino Rossi with just two races left.

An emergency meeting was called in Japan after last week's home GP, and now, after testing some new clutch parts, Honda are confident they have the right formula to see Hayden over the finishing line.

"We debriefed with Kanazawa and I was impressed with that," Hayden said. "I was impressed with the effort they made to come into the meeting and really want to hear what is happening.

"They've said there is something for Estoril and I'm sure they can come up with something. We tried different plate combinations but we still haven't cured our problem.

"There's nothing new really, but the order in which they were running the plates and different thicknesses of the plates.

"I used the standard clutch for most of the test, which has always been not too bad for the starts, but then it won't backshift out on the track, so that's still the same."

Hayden races in Estoril this weekend, and the season's finale comes two weeks later with a trip to Valencia.

http://www.eurosport.com/motorcycling/port...sto978203.shtml

Hayden could just Kamikaze Rossi on the first turn in both races. If they both DNF both times, Hayden wins.

^ that wouldn't work if capi, pedders or melandri win both races

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Oct 4 2006, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ok, XB, fair comment, Hopper is better than Hayden, who is leading the championship in front of five time world champ and, arguably the best rider ever, Rossi. But Hopper's rookie teammate on the same machinery beat him to a podium, and beat Hopper in his home race. So from this you can draw the conclusion that Vermulen is better than Hopper, who is better than Hayden, who is better than Rossi who is the best in the world. Which makes Vermulen the best rider ever...

If only the real world worked like my logic does

i like this logic... YEEHA VERMUEL'S

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Oct 5 2006, 08:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden could just Kamikaze Rossi on the first turn in both races. If they both DNF both times, Hayden wins.

But then he wouldn't be Nicky, he would be Michael Schumacher.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Oct 5 2006, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But then he wouldn't be Nicky, he would be Michael Schumacher.



I remeber what he did to Damon Hill too...............the git

Hayden's not a bad guy really, I wish he'd just forget about his other endorsements & actually prove that he deserves to be champ, 'cause I don't think he deserves it yet frankly.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Oct 5 2006, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden could just Kamikaze Rossi on the first turn in both races. If they both DNF both times, Hayden wins.
niether would win the title! melandri, cappers or even pedrosa would win it! would be very baazar for sure tho!