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MotoGP and fans must learn from Formula 1 by retaining MotoGP popularity

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Valentino Rossi's MotoGP career lifespan will towards tail-end as Valentino Rossi on the brink of retirement. MotoGP and fans must learn what F1 did in the past when F1 lost Michael Schumacher by retirement after 2006 but the popularity was stable and no effect.

MotoGP must stable the popularity when Valentino Rossi retires.

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He is no longer a factor to be considered for title contention and race wins.

Some great talent coming through.
MotoGP is looking great [emoji41]
 
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I daresay the majority of the people VR brought into GP are a detriment to racing overall.

They will leave when he does because they don't care about the sport...give me a Stoner any day.
 
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Valentino Rossi's MotoGP career lifespan will towards tail-end as Valentino Rossi on the brink of retirement. MotoGP and fans must learn what F1 did in the past when F1 lost Michael Schumacher by retirement after 2006 but the popularity was stable and no effect.

MotoGP must stable the popularity when Valentino Rossi retires.

Your opinions?

VR has stayed while his performance declined and as the 'new guard' came to fruition. We have the next generation riders already present and demonstrating that they are more than capable of providing great entertainment going forward. The diehard fans who cannot do without Rossi on the grid will go and so does the fan base cycle. As Rossi diehards go, other diehards emerge etc. On the background will be the MotoGP diehards who aren't tied to to any particular rider.
 
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Yes, it does seem that the eternal conceit of those who live vicariously through celebrities is they they convince themselves that their “relationship” with a celebrity is symbiotic, rather than merely parasitic, and that the host will shrivel and die without them.
 
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Honestly it will be fine. I have noticed some VR fans coming around to Marquez, the shoulder not to mention some of the championship documentaries being a reason for that. I work with a Rossi fan (not an insane one), we were speaking about motogp and he told me he didn't really like Marquez because he doesn't show much personality etc but then watched one of those behind the scenes docos they do for whoever wins the championship and started to see his personality and like him. After this weekend we were on the phone and he couldn't stop talking about how amazing the win was, how great he thought it was to see etc. So I think some are coming around, the ones that will continue to follow the sport but will always hate Marquez have moved on from Mav and are now jumping on the FQ bandwagon or pinning their hopes to Acosta.

The sport will be fine, for every Rossi fan that won't watch without him there will be new fans that come along.
 
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Honestly it will be fine. I have noticed some VR fans coming around to Marquez, the shoulder not to mention some of the championship documentaries being a reason for that. I work with a Rossi fan (not an insane one), we were speaking about motogp and he told me he didn't really like Marquez because he doesn't show much personality etc but then watched one of those behind the scenes docos they do for whoever wins the championship and started to see his personality and like him. After this weekend we were on the phone and he couldn't stop talking about how amazing the win was, how great he thought it was to see etc. So I think some are coming around, the ones that will continue to follow the sport but will always hate Marquez have moved on from Mav and are now jumping on the FQ bandwagon or pinning their hopes to Acosta.

The sport will be fine, for every Rossi fan that won't watch without him there will be new fans that come along.
If they remain predominantly fans of VR rather than fans of the sport after more than 20 years then I fear there is no keeping them, even leaving aside the question of whether they are worth keeping.

I guess it will be bad for Dorna, and to some extent the riders although I suspect only a few top riders get large money, if there is less money in the sport, but from a personal viewpoint having very much enjoyed the sport when I first started following it in earnest in the golden era 500 two stroke days I strongly suspect I will continue to do so.

The media coverage is better now I guess although I don’t use most of the features on my Dorna subscription except the live timing with even the results of sessions coming up quicker on crashnet, and I also strongly suspect commentary is dependent on the characteristics of individual commentators rather than anything Dorna does; Barry Sheene who was on the Australian coverage back in the 1980s has definitely not been surpassed by anyone subsequently for me.
 
Barry Sheene who was on the Australian coverage back in the 1980s has definitely not been surpassed by anyone subsequently for me.

He was very good, agreed. [emoji41]
I do not miss big Darrell Eastlake's commentary though.
Dunno how he managed to cope.
 
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He was very good, agreed. [emoji41]
I do not miss big Darrell Eastlake's commentary though.
Dunno how he managed to cope.

Nice enough bloke, but too strident as a commentator I agree, definitely not from the Richie Benaud less is more school.
 
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If they remain predominantly fans of VR rather than fans of the sport after more than 20 years then I fear there is no keeping them, even leaving aside the question of whether they are worth keeping.

I guess it will be bad for Dorna, and to some extent the riders although I suspect only a few top riders get large money, if there is less money in the sport, but from a personal viewpoint having very much enjoyed the sport when I first started following it in earnest in the golden era 500 two stroke days I strongly suspect I will continue to do so.

The media coverage is better now I guess although I don’t use most of the features on my Dorna subscription except the live timing with even the results of sessions coming up quicker on crashnet, and I also strongly suspect commentary is dependent on the characteristics of individual commentators rather than anything Dorna does; Barry Sheene who was on the Australian coverage back in the 1980s has definitely not been surpassed by anyone subsequently for me.

I think a very solid benchmark is now established in MM, both from a skill as well as a mental perspective.

Additionally, as Rossi's antics and success contributed to a growth in the fan base, so has improved technology allowing for better coverage both by television and now via streaming or downloadable videos.

There's always a period of concern when a great contributor retires or dies, but it's never down to a single person. The sport will set to live on healthily unless a bigger issue with great economic impact sets in... the current pandemic being a reality check in this regard.
 
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The sport existed before Valentino Rossi, and it will exist after Valentino Rossi.

Some may well say that he heightened awareness which to a degree may be true, but these same people overlook that he happened to be right place, right time with right talent and a seemingly engaging personality. He rode the social media wave, the stardom and fandom like nobody before and certainly he did change the way riders presented themselves, the way they used the various mediums to further themselves and their earning potential.

Many will say that he bought sponsors to the sport and while that has a ring of truth to it, many of these sponsors were bought by the coverage that the sport was receiving due to Rossi's smarts in his use of social media. Yes many associated themselves with him, but many moved on from him to other riders, teams or manufacturers so one could well say that he played a part in these sponsors arrival but is not the reason they remain

Along with the above, Rossi was a master manipulator. He played the media that covered the sport with the aplomb of an intensely skilled concert violinist and had them eating from his hand and publishing articles in a way that he led them to publish such was his charisma. He became the face of the sport because the media went to him (or were shielded to him by DORNA at times) which raised his seeming importance to a level the sport had not seen previously.

All of this while maintaining a racing skillset that allowed him to remain competitive and win many races as well as titles while also allowing him to build a business empire not seen from athletes in the sport previously.

He was MotoGP's Tiger Woods, and like Tiger things fade and influence or relevance diminish for any number of reason. In Valentino's case it was centred around opposition as we saw an influx of talented young riders who were no longer in awe of him. We saw riders that know how to play the ever smiling, happy go lucky, always up for a chat type of riders while at the same time have a mentality that would see them smiling at your face while kniving you from the back. This is a business and they know how to play it and when the numbers capable of this grow then you have lost the influence you had in the past.

Today, people know of Rossi, but the same people KNOW Marquez, Quartararo and the likes.

Valentino's time was yesterday and the sport has moved on and while it will never forget Valentino, nor should it as he is a part of the sports great history, he will be just that, history as we move on to the next rider or riders that the world falls for.

None of this is to diminish the achievements of Valentino as no matter what people believe, feel or which conspiracy theory we hope is true, facts are he has the trophies and titles to prove he was a somebody.
 
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Honestly it will be fine. I have noticed some VR fans coming around to Marquez, the shoulder not to mention some of the championship documentaries being a reason for that. I work with a Rossi fan (not an insane one), we were speaking about motogp and he told me he didn't really like Marquez because he doesn't show much personality etc but then watched one of those behind the scenes docos they do for whoever wins the championship and started to see his personality and like him. After this weekend we were on the phone and he couldn't stop talking about how amazing the win was, how great he thought it was to see etc. So I think some are coming around, the ones that will continue to follow the sport but will always hate Marquez have moved on from Mav and are now jumping on the FQ bandwagon or pinning their hopes to Acosta.

The sport will be fine, for every Rossi fan that won't watch without him there will be new fans that come along.

We have one here with his/her foot firmly on marcs neck every weekend.:D
 
Moto GP`s popularity will remain, and increase due to the quality of racing, and that it is exiting in all 3 seies.

Car racing have made the cars too fancy, and with too much downforce. The difference in teams btw the one with smallest to the one with the biggest budget is too big, and instead of decreasing it by design, the gap increases year by year.