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There you go again, at what point did I say they were riding the same bike? As I said before, stop making this a Rossi V Lorenzo Ducati argument.
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There you go again, at what point did I say they were riding the same bike? As I said before, stop making this a Rossi V Lorenzo Ducati argument.
Your claim that only a psychiatric explanation exists for Jorge not performing well in the wet this year when he has been adequate previously on different tyres is ludicrous, just as is your argument that there can't be a problem with any Michelin tyre because they are a prominent tyre manufacturer and/or because they have been given the contract to supply tyres to MotoGP . There can and have been tyre problems this year, which does not imply any conspiracy and is to some degree understandable in their first year back with no data; Bridgestone who are also a reputable manufacturer and the long term tyre provider to MotoGP had well documented problems at PI 2013 when they hadn't tested on the new tarmac.
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If my claim is ludicrous, Jorge will prove it wrong in the wet races next year. It will be especially interesting if it rains again at Assen!
I never said there can't be a problem with any Michelin tire.
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Indeed, the reason why you shouldn't be attributing his problems this year to psychiatric causes when Jorge himself who was actually riding the bike has stated numerous times that his problem in the wet was with the tyre construction. He also was riding fine and fast on the softer wet tyre before it delaminated, although obviously deserving of the criticism he received from you guys for not having the fine judgement to ride just short of the delamination threshold as your boy did.
I am at work and have neither the time nor the inclination to count how many front tyre washouts there were this year, but am confident it was a larger number than in recent years, particularly for Rossi and Lorenzo, not known for throwing their bikes down the road in the dry, which they didn't do last year on Bridgestones despite closely contending for the title all year.
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Does anyone know what the deal is with the new engine starters being used. None of the bikes are being turned over via the back wheel but via a external starter pluged into the engine through the fairing.
Is this just done for a simpler more compact means of starting the bike or are there other benefits?
Is this just done for a simpler more compact means of starting the bike or are there other benefits?
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Lorenzo explains it clearly. Unlike the BS wet the Michelin is a relatively hard construction with a variable compound rubber dependent on conditions. Very wet very soft rubber but still hard construction. Since the construction is hard the only way to get the tire to compress and therefore increase the contact patch and improve grip is too brake hard. Anyone, by that I mean Vudu, doubting this is the case can have a look at Sepang where for the first time I can remember bikes went out on wets with carbon brakes. My brain cell tells me using carbon brakes on wets means they are braking hard. Check the data. Brake input hard. Lorenzo doesn't brake hard. .... eh. Memo from vudu to Lorenzo grow some balls and brake hard you wimp.
But what if? What if for some unknown reason, I don't know maybe a certain bike by the big H and a certain rider with big teeth was making things boring, they could change the wet construction to a soft high flex. What happens then? Well then hard brakers are going to suffer and smooth ones will perform much better. Then vudu can stand track side and yell obscenities at Rossi for not trying hard enough, when in reality its not about trying. Very few riders are adaptable enough to change a winning style, why would they? Of coarse another solution you have repeated many times would be give them both a hard and soft construction and let the best man win.
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Noyes, defending someone who already horribly beaten (2011-2012). Pointless.
Its obvious the bike was different, etc etc. No need to bring it over again. Without him mentioning it first, there wouldn't be Chico's tweet. Now becoming great joke....eat that.
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They do it deliberately to illicit responses that may cause conflict and generate entertainment in the sport .... its probably written into their KPI's.
Dylan Gray: Chico, firstly hello and secondly I just wanted to find out how Lorenzo feels about his move to Ducati after his first test ride? I'd imagine you must be very excited?
Chico Lorenzo: Yes, Jorge says he is settling in and very happy.
Dylan Grey: its was surprising when Valentino Rossi called Jorge a useless .... earlier in the day, and teased his mum. What are your thoughts?
Pics
Some guy who is apparently mentally disturbed and useless in some conditions ........... but not hated upon.
Some guy who used to ride for Ducati and is now crazy about Suzuki
A very second hand looking M1 - rider ok
A spanish dude, world champion even .......
Some guy who is apparently mentally disturbed and useless in some conditions ........... but not hated upon.
Some guy who used to ride for Ducati and is now crazy about Suzuki
A very second hand looking M1 - rider ok
A spanish dude, world champion even .......
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Where's the starter being fed into?
Something to do with changes to the slipper clutch?
Or some donkey let the clutch out with it still in gear, dropped the bike and now it's an OH&S response.
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OHS could be the case, I heard next year the mechanics will need to wear helmets when in the pits during flag to flag races... go figure.
On the Aprillia they fed the starter into a hole in the fairing that had a plug covering it, they had to pop back the plug back into it before the bike took off. Middle of the fairing and looked like they where feeding it into the side of the engine rather than the g/box but really don't know. i noticed all the teams where starting their bikes this way rather than via the rear wheel so its probably some across the board rule maybe??
Still cant find any information on it, may have a reliability/performance benefit if they mention it when discussing engine development.
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That's the nub of it, which you discern as is your habit.
None of these guys are infinitely adaptable, particularly when at a mature stage in their careers. Rossi has commendably changed to a significant degree with the times, but admitted he could not ride the Ducati 800 as Stoner did. Stoner was relatively less good on the soft Bridgestones.
Why the hell should Lorenzo change the riding style which had brought him 5 titles and 45 odd premier class wins because the Michelin wet tyre in the first year of their return was suboptimal for him, or because there have been an unusual number of wet races in the last 2 seasons, in one of which he won the title anyway? I am a Cal Crutchlow fan, and his style has seemed rather suited to wet conditions and the Michelin wets this year, but I am not sure this constitutes a good reason for Jorge to change his style in general to mimic Crutchlow's.
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I dunno, he could learn a thing or two about stand up.
More stuff from Valencia
Rins destroys a Suzuki - https://streamable.com/diez
Rins - different view - https://streamable.com/0kwm
Said to be in the medical centre but concious
Ianonne - same manufacturer, same corner, same result - https://streamable.com/y2iv
A small video of Ianonne after the crash, as well as a cheap used Suzuki fuel tank - https://streamable.com/lft8
Rins destroys a Suzuki - https://streamable.com/diez
Rins - different view - https://streamable.com/0kwm
Said to be in the medical centre but concious
Ianonne - same manufacturer, same corner, same result - https://streamable.com/y2iv
A small video of Ianonne after the crash, as well as a cheap used Suzuki fuel tank - https://streamable.com/lft8
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