Motogp: 2016 Round 4 Gran Premio Red Bull de España

povol · Apr 25, 2016

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Originally Posted by steeeeeve View Post
whether you think Vale was wronged by MM or not, he thinks he was.

This is where i disagree. I think the entire episode was orchestrated right up till it blew up in his face. Then it got real. He thought his tactics that had served him so well in the past would do so again. Rossi felt wronged after the race when the penalty was handed down, but everything before the race was a dog and pony show.

steeeeeve · Apr 25, 2016

povol said:
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Originally Posted by steeeeeve View Post
whether you think Vale was wronged by MM or not, he thinks he was.

This is where i disagree. I think the entire episode was orchestrated right up till it blew up in his face. Then it got real. He thought his tactics that had served him so well in the past would do so again. Rossi felt wronged after the race when the penalty was handed down, but everything before the race was a dog and pony show.

I disagree back. But it's all speculation. What isn't speculation is gorgeous goerge's tricycle pitboard designed to demean other riders.

It's just like politics. you can justify anything for your guy and condemn the other for doing the exact same thing. nothing new.

baturro · Apr 25, 2016

steeeeeve said:
I disagree back. But it's all speculation. What isn't speculation is gorgeous goerge's tricycle pitboard designed to demean other riders.

It's just like politics. you can justify anything for your guy and condemn the other for doing the exact same thing. nothing new.

As for Jorge's "tricycle," I look at that more along the ol' saying of "if the hat fits, wear it." If the Tricycle is aimed at anyone, it is only aimed at the rider putting himself in the possition to be labeled a tricycle. All that particular rider needs to do to not be called a tricycle is to not latch on to the back of Jorge's tire. Simple remedy.

Rossi's humiliation tactics are a bit more dirty. As has been argued by many with opposite views we can say the situation created by Rossi is subjective. Regardless of your view on who's to blame, Rossi is the only one that can make the booing stop.

Arrabbiata1 · Apr 25, 2016

steeeeeve said:
tactic of humiliating fellow riders. [/B]

Let's see...the inflatable doll aimed at Biaggi without provocation? or perhaps the chair on the rostrum with his mate Capirossi at Sepang ('04 or '05?) - aimed at an injured Pedrosa, again unwarranted.

danski · Apr 25, 2016

Arrabbiata1 said:
Let's see...the inflatable doll aimed at Biaggi without provocation? or perhaps the chair on the rostrum with his mate Capirossi at Sepang ('04 or '05?) - aimed at an injured Pedrosa, again unwarranted.

2006 was the year and what a great race that was !

xx CURVE xx · Apr 25, 2016

Interesting race if a little boring, good for the championship. Bring on France.

libby · Apr 25, 2016

xx CURVE xx said:
Interesting race if a little boring, good for the championship. Bring on France.

Well said

Pigeon · Apr 25, 2016

2016 zzzzzzz
Rossi and Michelins = Gifted the title
they'll be talk of SNS Next
its going to be a long season if you dont love Rossi

#22 · Apr 25, 2016

Good to see you back Pidg!

lil red rocket pilot · Apr 25, 2016

Pigeon said:
2016 zzzzzzz
Rossi and Michelins = Gifted the title
they'll be talk of SNS Next
its going to be a long season if you dont love Rossi

Still Red Brotha'
How you doing mate? still on same email if you still have me,

Pigeon · Apr 25, 2016

lil red rocket pilot said:
Still Red Brotha'
How you doing mate? still on same email if you still have me,

Yeah i do - u ok
i dont do a lot these days on net
might drop in a bit more got to go in hospital soon

ill be climbing the walls

Pigeon · Apr 25, 2016

2016 what about these wings ? eh
ffs its something some of the pricks on here would come up with
so what is it the more wings you have the bigger .... or Ego you have ???

lil red rocket pilot · Apr 25, 2016

Pigeon said:
Yeah i do - u ok
i dont do a lot these days on net
might drop in a bit more got to go in hospital soon

ill be climbing the walls

All cool here dude

Bit of the ole same old same old tha nos wat a mean.
Hope it goes well in't hossi n nowt too serious.
Keep in touch I still owe you a beer, and I'm still ont same no:

Keshav · Apr 25, 2016

Pigeon said:
2016 zzzzzzz
Rossi and Michelins = Gifted the title
they'll be talk of SNS Next
its going to be a long season if you dont love Rossi

Was making a mental list of the missing forum dinosaurs yesterday and your name was at top of list. Great to see come 'round!

Arrabbiata1 · Apr 25, 2016

Pigeon said:
2016 what about these wings ? eh
ffs its something some of the pricks on here would come up with
so what is it the more wings you have the bigger .... or Ego you have ???

Alwight Pidge?

michaelm · Apr 25, 2016

steeeeeve said:
The fact that Jlo knows the meaning of the tricycle symbol means he is on board with this tactic of humiliating fellow riders. and for how long it's been going on, he's more than okay with it. not rocket surgery.

Honestly, I have no anger towards VR but do have 'anger' (to use your words) at aspects of his career (and none relates to the actual riding as for me, he has competed and beaten ....... simple)
\
but if someone says something unflattering toward any other rider, where does your mind directly go? Attack VR.

But as I do respect you as a forum member and respect most of your posts, I would personally like to just agree to disagree on this and give you the last word if you like.

Nice straw man. The practice which draws the display of the "tricycle" is one to which many riders object and have objected, some rather less gently than JL, and was drawing penalty points in moto 3 before the abolition of that system for whatever reason. It is also shorthand to inform JL what to expect and directed at something which unequivocally exists ie Barbera seeking a tow, from which Barbera could and not very arguably should refrain and something orders of magnitude different than alleging a championship has been stolen from you by another rider cheating, much as equating Barbera towing with him torpedoing people in races would be, another practice of his which draws rebuke regardless of the hurt that might cause Barbera.

steeeeeve · Apr 25, 2016

michaelm said:
Nice straw man. The practice which draws the display of the "tricycle" is one to which many riders object and have objected, some rather less gently than JL, and was drawing penalty points in moto 3 before the abolition of that system for whatever reason. It is also shorthand to inform JL what to expect and directed at something which unequivocally exists ie Barbera seeking a tow, from which Barbera could and not very arguably should refrain and something orders of magnitude different than alleging a championship has been stolen from you by another rider cheating, much as equating Barbera towing with him torpedoing people in races would be, another practice of his which draws rebuke regardless of the hurt that might cause Barbera.

Why do you have the word tricycle in quotes? It's a symbol of a tricycle.
It's a dirtbag passive aggressive way of demeaning other riders. I've seen it come out when riders weren't even that close.
But please forgive me. I forgot this is exclusively a Rossi bashing site.
And you've completely missed my point anyway and obviously you never will and that's okay.

pyeman · Apr 25, 2016

steeeeeve said:
Why do you have the word tricycle in quotes? It's a symbol of a tricycle.
It's a dirtbag passive aggressive way of demeaning other riders. I've seen it come out when riders weren't even that close.
But please forgive me. I forgot this is exclusively a Rossi bashing site.
And you've completely missed my point anyway and obviously you never will and that's okay.

I think it's pretty tongue in cheek really,if you were a rider you'd get pretty pissed off with guys that can only get a fast lap by waiting around for you to get a tow wouldn't you?, especially if they made a habit of it like some guys do.

michaelm · Apr 25, 2016

steeeeeve said:
Why do you have the word tricycle in quotes? It's a symbol of a tricycle.
It's a dirtbag passive aggressive way of demeaning other riders. I've seen it come out when riders weren't even that close.
But please forgive me. I forgot this is exclusively a Rossi bashing site.
And you've completely missed my point anyway and obviously you never will and that's okay.

I am saying that riders seeking tows is something most riders object to rather less gently than JL does and is not very arguably illegal.

Accusing riders of tanking races they won is rather more unusual.

pyeman · Apr 25, 2016

michaelm said:
I saying that riders seeking tows from them is something most riders object to rather less gently than JL and is not very arguably illegal.

Totally,this is the top class of motorcycle racing,if you're in it then you should know your way around the track without waiting to be shown by the faster guys,if you don't want the tricycle then don't do it!.

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