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No offence J4 but the water would have been what, 150 - 180 (what do these things run at?) or so and the tyre would have been around 110 - I am just not sure I buy that all the damage was done by the water pump (would it have a concentrated nozzle type of high pressure as that may have caused some of the damage given the heats) ?
The water would have had to be concentrated in that exact spot for the tyre to suffer the damage that the pictures how
Not challenging that he had a water pump issue, but the damage seems to my untrained (emphasis on untrained) eyes to be something else (may have been affected by however) as the line is indicative of a rubber curing type issue that we have seen throughout the last 2 years of Stones and to a slight degree, this year
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Only you (so far).
Had he been able to shadow him for the entire race, without attempting anything even in the last lap, then it would have looked peculiar (again).
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Absolutely no need for any tyre conspiracy theory to be raised for this race, it is a Yamaha track, it was really hot and Rossi is simply better than JL in low grip conditions when the track is hot on tyres best suited for those conditions.Only you (so far).
The fact that Marquez stayed behind Lorenzo for 2/3 of the race without attempting a pass, and then lost ground in the last 1/3, can be the proof only that he didn't have enough speed to really race him... of nothing else really.
Had he been able to shadow him for the entire race, without attempting anything even in the last lap, then it would have looked peculiar (again).
That Michelin may have quality control issues or have produced a control tyre which doesn't cope with the power delivery of the Ducati are different questions.
As for conspiracy theories, despite being fastest in the warm-up as he was at Sepang MM didn't have the pace to go with the riders who beat him early or late.
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You were the first to spoil. Instead of getting defensive about it you could just say sorry and delete or edit the post. It's not too late for you or anyone else that did it because I'm sure there's some people that haven't seen the races yet
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I don't believe that for a nanosecond. The markings on the tyre are from wear, not a little bit of water spilling onto it.
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The tyre looks a bit torn up and the line looks a little like the border between compounds. But yeah, hot water on the tyre isn't going to cook it.
Losing coolant....you'd expect Dovi's dash to be flashing warnings at him. And water (of whatever temp) on the tyre is going to make it squirrelly.. He may have.rhought oil mist was hitting his tyre
Yeah, I thought that it looked like the seam where the compounds joined.
But from what I can remember, the asymmetric rear was billed as having a harder compound on the right shoulder of the tyre. So unless the harder compound actually extended to the centre of the tyre as well (in which case I would have expected the description of the asymmetric tyre to be "a softer compound on the left shoulder") I can't see it being this....
I also can't see hot water doing physical damage to a tyre (rear tyres run at around 130 degrees C during a race), but it could sure make things slippy.
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Yeah, I thought that it looked like the seam where the compounds joined.
But from what I can remember, the asymmetric rear was billed as having a harder compound on the right shoulder of the tyre. So unless the harder compound actually extended to the centre of the tyre as well (in which case I would have expected the description of the asymmetric tyre to be "a softer compound on the left shoulder") I can't see it being this....
I also can't see hot water doing physical damage to a tyre (rear tyres run at around 130 degrees C during a race), but it could sure make things slippy.
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There was blue smoke coming from the exhaust pipe which means it was coughing up oil. Before that, it looked to me like the engine seized, locking up the rear. If the cooling system shat itself then that explains the seizure.
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The fact that Jlo knows the meaning of the tricycle symbol means he is on board with this tactic of humiliating fellow riders. and for how long it's been going on, he's more than okay with it. not rocket surgery.
Honestly, I have no anger towards VR but do have 'anger' (to use your words) at aspects of his career (and none relates to the actual riding as for me, he has competed and beaten ....... simple)
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but if someone says something unflattering toward any other rider, where does your mind directly go? Attack VR.
But as I do respect you as a forum member and respect most of your posts, I would personally like to just agree to disagree on this and give you the last word if you like.
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