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I think Lorenzo went too wide on his entry to the corner. Notwithstanding this, anyone can be passed in any corner if the choices for the competitor in prospect of being passed are to be punted or give way. This admittedly did work for Ayrton Senna over quite a lengthy career.
I make no claim to being a Rossi fan, but his passes are/were usually things of elegance and beauty.
As I have said, I don't have much problem with MM in actual races, he is obviously extremely rapid, and commendably game. The Willairot practice incident remains concerning though.
I think Lorenzo went too wide on his entry to the corner. Notwithstanding this, anyone can be passed in any corner if the choices for the competitor in prospect of being passed are to be punted or give way. This admittedly did work for Ayrton Senna over quite a lengthy career.
I make no claim to being a Rossi fan, but his passes are/were usually things of elegance and beauty.
As I have said, I don't have much problem with MM in actual races, he is obviously extremely rapid, and commendably game. The Willairot practice incident remains concerning though.
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Well no .... buddy, hes a champ, and he is sought for his opinion. We, on the other hand give our opinions just as much, with little to no expertise. As many as there are riders and champs, there are varying opinions. Are Stoner fans still upset with him, haha.
Well no .... buddy, hes a champ, and he is sought for his opinion. We, on the other hand give our opinions just as much, with little to no expertise. As many as there are riders and champs, there are varying opinions. Are Stoner fans still upset with him, haha.
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Thanks for clearing this up my fine friend. So the rider would have been admonished for dangerous tactics (?) on the same track, but not during a race situation because...during a race, similar risk is allowed? That’s a fantastic message. (sarcasm) Okay…I must conclude they are not thinking about "safety" in their decision-making (not that they ever did). Mat Oxley shared your cavalier sentiment by opening his contribution on your site ‘thanking race direction’ for not admonishing Marquez. Let me say, I don’t think Marc should be “penalize” but certainly “warned”. I suppose physics and unusual circumstances don’t collude during races…right? Remind me when Sic’s fatal accident occurred, was that during a practice?
Kropotkin
Incorrect! There was a "gap", as you have recently describe this "space", or better yet, Harada, "left the door open" (which seems to be your recent justification). Perhaps you need to look at the Harada-Capirossi incident again, Loris did not t-bone Harada, as his bike was "ahead" when contact occurred. Maybe it was Harada's fault for not 'braking more' or 'standing his bike up to avoid contact' as you have accused Lorenzo of failing to do, because of course so much can be done on loaded up forks in a nano second of time...How you can describe this incident in such negative terms (which I agree with) while described Marc/Jlo incident in such lofty terms (you're crazy) is rather fascinating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X47sTzsInOg
(Edit to add: God has a sense of humor! http://www.motocuatro.com/index.php/motogp/5923-jorge-lorenzo-y-marc-marquez-se-dan-la-mano-a-10000-metros-de-altura ) Lorenzo and Marquez happen to have the same flight, and as God would ordain it, they sat in the same row. Hahaha. Looks like they kissed and made up.
Thanks for clearing this up my fine friend. So the rider would have been admonished for dangerous tactics (?) on the same track, but not during a race situation because...during a race, similar risk is allowed? That’s a fantastic message. (sarcasm) Okay…I must conclude they are not thinking about "safety" in their decision-making (not that they ever did). Mat Oxley shared your cavalier sentiment by opening his contribution on your site ‘thanking race direction’ for not admonishing Marquez. Let me say, I don’t think Marc should be “penalize” but certainly “warned”. I suppose physics and unusual circumstances don’t collude during races…right? Remind me when Sic’s fatal accident occurred, was that during a practice?
Kropotkin
Incorrect! There was a "gap", as you have recently describe this "space", or better yet, Harada, "left the door open" (which seems to be your recent justification). Perhaps you need to look at the Harada-Capirossi incident again, Loris did not t-bone Harada, as his bike was "ahead" when contact occurred. Maybe it was Harada's fault for not 'braking more' or 'standing his bike up to avoid contact' as you have accused Lorenzo of failing to do, because of course so much can be done on loaded up forks in a nano second of time...How you can describe this incident in such negative terms (which I agree with) while described Marc/Jlo incident in such lofty terms (you're crazy) is rather fascinating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X47sTzsInOg
(Edit to add: God has a sense of humor! http://www.motocuatro.com/index.php/motogp/5923-jorge-lorenzo-y-marc-marquez-se-dan-la-mano-a-10000-metros-de-altura ) Lorenzo and Marquez happen to have the same flight, and as God would ordain it, they sat in the same row. Hahaha. Looks like they kissed and made up.
IMO (and I ready myself for Jums rebuttal) but Lorenzo went way wider than necessary and basically opened the door to wave an invite in the face of Marquez (ok, so Lorenzo has said he did not realise that Marquez was that close).
Well, last corner last lap and Marquez went for the gap somewhat, yes he does look to be in hot but to me the aerial shot shows that he was going to use a shallow line in, long past apex turn and power out (much like last corner Saschenring can be done). If Lorenzo turned there was going to be an inevitable collision and so it happened but in saying that I also say that if (a big IF) Lorenzo had known where Marquez was then he could have avoided the collision but that would likely have also cost him the drive he would have needed to stay in front of Marquez.
IMO, a racing incident with no harm, no foul so to speak.
To me, for a few years now people have been saying that the triumvirate of Lorenzo, Pedrosa and Stoner have been to polite and yet now, when the politeness is gone we ask for polite (not necessarily you Jums).
Of more interest to me has been the lack of discussion regarding post race behaviours ....
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Well, last corner last lap and Marquez went for the gap somewhat, yes he does look to be in hot but to me the aerial shot shows that he was going to use a shallow line in, long past apex turn and power out (much like last corner Saschenring can be done). If Lorenzo turned there was going to be an inevitable collision and so it happened but in saying that I also say that if (a big IF) Lorenzo had known where Marquez was then he could have avoided the collision but that would likely have also cost him the drive he would have needed to stay in front of Marquez.
IMO, a racing incident with no harm, no foul so to speak.
To me, for a few years now people have been saying that the triumvirate of Lorenzo, Pedrosa and Stoner have been to polite and yet now, when the politeness is gone we ask for polite (not necessarily you Jums).
Of more interest to me has been the lack of discussion regarding post race behaviours ....
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Gaz
Nonononono. You don't understand. Marc Marquez went in with murder in his heart and attempted to kill Jorge Lorenzo. Lorenzo was lucky the limpet mines strapped to the outside of Marquez' fairing didn't go off, and they all crossed the line safely.
The weather forecast for Philip Island is not looking good for Casey's wild card.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1L81Ki8rk0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1L81Ki8rk0
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Thinking about it, it's the sort of reasoning from a personality engaged in by the boppers and boners, but on steroids . X did Y, I love X, therefore Y was bad, X is God.
A new form of crazy emerges!
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Yes, he knocked back being put on a liver transplant list didn't he? Didn't want them to waste one on him.
Yes, he knocked back being put on a liver transplant list didn't he? Didn't want them to waste one on him.
