Moto Gp Fans

We must do anything in our power to try and make the heads of Gp racing see that Indy is the worst option on the board for a second Gp race in the states.Its an infield circuit that no one likes.It will be a viewing nightmare,anyone that has ever been to the place will know what im talking about.Barber has offered to lengthen his track and Miller Motorsports was designed with F1 and Gp in mind,plus they can go to over 4 miles if they want.Barber is the nicest facility in the country for racing.Everything is first class.including the track.It just didnt have straits long enough to get out of 3rd gear.It also has the largest Motorcycle Museum in the world on site.Top notch.Gp seems to be looking for the American infusion of money and who can throw more than Indy.Racing is being sold out for the old mighty corporate dollar.Now we will have what most people consider the 2 worst Gp events on the calander.

I have never been to Barber. But, what happened last year at Laguna, with the track peeling due to the heat, was quite embarrasing. The track organizers need to get their act together, get some professional help. MotoGP should stop being so greedy and be willing to have the patience to see the sport grow the right way in the US. The level of interest in MotoGP amongst americans is appalling -- even though it is so much more exciting than say F1, which get so much more coverage including practice, qualifying in addition to the race. Most of which is shown live.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Mar 14 2007, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Now we will have what most people consider the 2 worst Gp events on the calander.
Are you crazy?!? How in your right mind could you say Laguna is one of the "worst"? It is perhaps the track with the most character and challenges, certainly unique, and a great tradition. I was agreeing with you for the most part until you lodged your foot in your mouth.

BTW, who the hell else thinks Laguna is a bad event or track? Where did you get this ridiculous idea?

Anyway, Indy may not be the best track, but we certainly have the biggest market. Money makes the world go round, yes, its about the money. Clearly, Miller is much better. But most business decisions are not made in the interest of the customer (in this case the spectator); usually they are made in the best interest of their own pocket book.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Mar 14 2007, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>BTW, who the hell else thinks Laguna is a bad event or track? Where did you get this ridiculous idea?

I look foreward to the us gp hugely, and laguna is an exciting track with plenty of history and character. So in that respect it stands quite highly.

However, it is one of the more dangerous circuits, it is partially ruined for the joke that is running without the small classes, and the organization seemed pretty poor when they laid down a new surface and it was totally ..... Although i'm sure that was helped by the stupidly hot weather.

Overall it makes one of my favorite races of the year, but it is one of the lesser gp's on the calender.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Mar 14 2007, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>, but it is one of the lesser gp's on the calender.
Maybe Rogete' are right about you...you sound ......... (just kidding).

But, I totally disagree that it is a "lesser" GP. Even though I don't like the fact that the support classes don't come to the US, I come to watch the premier class. Randy Mamola is one, and I agree, that the support classes are over hyped and take away from the premier class. But certainly, this is not what makes the event any less appealing.

As far as safety, please, all the circuits have flaws; this is part of their character. Much is made of the banking at Daytona regarding safety. Accidents however are unlikely. And for sure its one of the most exiting aspects of the track. Perhaps they should do away with the Isle of Man while we are at it. I’m for safety, but these guys are professionals.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Mar 14 2007, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe Rogete' are right about you...you sound ......... (just kidding).

But, I totally disagree that it is a "lesser" GP. Even though I don't like the fact that the support classes don't come to the US, I come to watch the premier class. Randy Mamola is one, and I agree, that the support classes are over hyped and take away from the premier class. But certainly, this is not what makes the event any less appealing.

As far as safety, please, all the circuits have flaws; this is part of their character. Much is made of the banking at Daytona regarding safety. Accidents however are unlikely. And for sure its one of the most exiting aspects of the track. Perhaps they should do away with the Isle of Man while we are at it. I’m for safety, but these guys are professionals.

Thing is, i love 250cc racing because they run 2-strokes, and the bikes look so brilliant. Not to mention the excellent racing. Under some circumstances the 250's can be as exciting as motogp for me.

As for safetey, i obviously know only what i hear, and if the riders are ok with riding it then i am sure its fine, like you say proffesionals. I just heard about even more changes being needed after the last gp.

But its not that i think Laguna should be dropped, or it could be moved somewhere better. i just think it really stands alone in the calender because it is a very hyped and promoted race but for me has less to offer than the other meetings.

well... laguna over hyped!... second rate! your fishing right? either that or u guy's are nuts. laguna is an awesom track & the racing there is superb! the surface repave was the contractors fault & the county who contracted the job. they got what they paid for i'm sure & i doubt it will happen again. as far as indy go's i agree it's defo not my choice but lets give it a chance 1st. it's seems certain to happen so lets wait & see how it works out.

not a fan of indy, but it would also give alot of people on the east coast of the usa & ontario, quebec etc a chance to see moto gp without paying a fortune to travel to california. there is always a huge amount of canadians that go down for the F1 race, & i dare say it would be the same for moto gp.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 14 2007, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well... laguna over hyped!... second rate! your fishing right? either that or u guy's are nuts. laguna is an awesom track & the racing there is superb! the surface repave was the contractors fault & the county who contracted the job. they got what they paid for i'm sure & i doubt it will happen again. as far as indy go's i agree it's defo not my choice but lets give it a chance 1st. it's seems certain to happen so lets wait & see how it works out.
Well - here's a surprise - I agree. Laguna is a great circuit - just needs some money spending on it. There may be technically and structurally some great tracks - in parts of the world THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MOTORSPORT - they even have to invite spectators. If we want to complain about money driving the sport we should oppose racing there. More races in the US would do a lot to build MotoGp popularity.

Viva Rossi - couldn't resist

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 14 2007, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well... laguna over hyped!... second rate! your fishing right? either that or u guy's are nuts. laguna is an awesom track & the racing there is superb! the surface repave was the contractors fault & the county who contracted the job. they got what they paid for i'm sure & i doubt it will happen again. as far as indy go's i agree it's defo not my choice but lets give it a chance 1st. it's seems certain to happen so lets wait & see how it works out.
Absolutely. Roadtrip!

BTW: It is being repaved. Check their website.

Hope Moto GP doesn't end up at Indy.

One US race is enough.

Also i think Laguna Seca has lost its difficulty a bit, i mean how many riders actually crash at the corkscrew which is meant to be the worlds most difficult corner.

I think a race at the 13 mile long Nurburgring is the answer!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ Mar 14 2007, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hope Moto GP doesn't end up at Indy.

One US race is enough.

Also i think Laguna Seca has lost its difficulty a bit, i mean how many riders actually crash at the corkscrew which is meant to be the worlds most difficult corner.

I think a race at the 13 mile long Nurburgring is the answer!!!
Question: Do you think Spain should have more than one race?

the race will be on to late, after his bed time..

The event at Laguna was a cluster F^%$ from the get go.It is a great track and has lots of history but it doesnt deserve a Gp race.Like Barber.Laguna is overpowered by the Gp bikes.I think i read where they didnt get out of 4th gear.Not to mention the track coming up the second year.It is poorly organized and the area itself proved what it was made of when they started dropping race fans reservations so they could gouge another after they realized how big an event it was.But then again, that could, and probably would happen any where.Hayden getting 2 wins in 2 years is about the only good thing to come out of the Laguna Gp.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But, I totally disagree that it is a "lesser" GP. Even though I
don't like the fact that the support classes don't come to the US,
I come to watch the premier class. Randy Mamola is one, and I
agree, that the support classes are over hyped and take away from
the premier class.

Disagree. I don't see them as support classes and for this reason it adds to the excitement and profile of the big boys - we wouldn't have so many...

...WORLD CHAMPIONS competing in the same race otherwise...capirossi, pedrosa etc without an unprecedented amount of equality between classes (not seen in other motorsports that i'm aware of) makes GP the best!

As for laguna - most exciting track of the year. I would guess burky thinks about it at least once a day . When i picture a track for bike racing the first that comes into mind is laguna. However it is simply a less GP because it's only a THIRD of a GP! Bit like when michelin messed up in F1!

There was uproar about that.

Is laguna unsafe? Does the dodgey surface by definition make it more dangerous or just more difficult?

Don't know anything about other tracks in the states really...no second us gp if you ask me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pirkkalan GP @ Mar 15 2007, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>no second us gp if you ask me.
good thing thier not askin u then.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Mar 14 2007, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Question: Do you think Spain should have more than one race?

They get away with it by calling them the Spanish, Catalan and Valencian or something like that. To be honest there probably shouldn't be 3 GPs in Spain but they are all quality tracks unlike Indy.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>good thing thier not askin u then.

i say go Brazil or Finland

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pirkkalan GP @ Mar 15 2007, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> i say go Brazil or Finland

Does anyone know any tracks in Finland by the way?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ Mar 15 2007, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They get away with it by calling them the Spanish, Catalan and Valencian or something like that. To be honest there probably shouldn't be 3 GPs in Spain but they are all quality tracks unlike Indy.
Well the Valencians don't really consider themselves to be spanish do they?
Considering the amount of money the Spanish put into rendering Motogp a reality, by way of sponsoring teams, riders etc I would say that since they're paying for it, then why not? Spain is motorbike mad. And they put their money where their passion is. So they definitely deserve to have their gp's.