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Melandri 'bitter, 'worried' Gresini calls for Honda help

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Melandri 'bitter, 'worried' Gresini calls for Honda help

The San Carlo Honda Gresini team left the final MotoGP pre-season test at Qatar 'worried' after riders Marco Melandri and Marco Simoncelli were unable to get higher than twelfth and 15th respectively.

Melandri, returning to the team with which he finished second in the 2005 world championship, has had a tough time adapting to the new Ohlins-mounted 2010 satellite RCV and has not been ranked higher than tenth on any of the six days.

To make matters worse, Melandri also destroyed his bike during a final night fall at Losail and couldn't hide his frustration.

"I'm a bit bitter and disappointed because we've tried practically everything but nothing has helped us get on the right track,” he said. “None of the changes gave encouraging results and our work was just being wasted. A crash further complicated things with the bike being completely wrecked.”

Bravely, given the sometimes sensitive nature of HRC to public criticism, Melandri went on to state that his problems are not unique to the Gresini team.

“I don't think that it's just our problem though because I can see that virtually all the Honda riders have similar problems to us,” he declared. “The first race will soon be upon us and the current situation is quite worrying. We need total commitment all round to find the answers and overcome this tough moment."

But if Melandri starts the new season on the back foot, rookie team-mate Simoncelli is in an even more precarious situation, having suffered both a lack of pace and numerous falls.

The former 250cc world champion agrees with Melandri that the problems, which are believed to centre around front-end feel, are hurting all the Honda riders - although Repsol's Andrea Dovizioso looks to have found a strong set-up, having managed the third fastest lap time at Qatar.

"It's been really hard work, we've tried all sorts of things but we haven't found one which helps us move forwards,” said Simoncelli. “At this clearly difficult moment in time I don't believe that my lack of experience in MotoGP is relevant. I can see that other Honda riders are also having more or less the same problems so I believe that together we must all roll up our sleeves to get out of this low point."

Gresini also called on Honda to act swiftly

“There's a lot of work still to do, it's not going to be easy but I am convinced that with the determination which sets us apart and the commitment from Honda we will find the right way,” he said. ”I´m obviously worried today and to see that despite all the work and the commitment from the technicians we have made no progress, I am quite disappointed. As always I still believe in Honda´s prowess and its ability to react and I hope that it is decisive at this difficult moment."

Melandri and Simoncelli were just ranked 14th and 17th, out of 17 riders, on overall lap times at the end of the Qatar test.

The other Honda riders were classified third (Dovizioso), joint seventh (de Puniet), 13th (Pedrosa) and 16th (Aoyama).

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I think it was always a recipe for disaster . How can they expect to be competitive when switching to Ohlins after all these years and having the honda rev capped engine. If marco stuffed his bike up that bad he was obviously trying to be fast. Maybe he is having to push to hard in the corners cos he has not got the straight line speed now.
 
I bet Honda is kicking them selves in the ..... But thats what they get for placing all their chips on a midget rider and strong arming for the 800cc change... revenge was the plan and it has come round to bite them in the ......
 
MotoGP, its about the mouse trap...


(On a related note, if there are no improvements, how long before Melandri tells us he cried himself to sleep and will not battle for higher positions?)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 22 2010, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>MotoGP, its about the mouse trap...


(On a related note, if there are no improvements, how long before Melandri tells us he cried himself to sleep and will not battle for higher positions?)
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wouldn't it be interesting to dyno the hrc and gresini bikes and see what power difference this 1000 rpm actually makes. maybe our new mate <strike>Rumble Stiltskin</strike> Kropotkin has some info on this ??
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Mar 22 2010, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I bet Honda is kicking them selves in the ..... But thats what they get for placing all their chips on a midget rider and strong arming for the 800cc change... revenge was the plan and it has come round to bite them in the ......

That basket broke long ago and ‘All’ the… ‘One’ single egg (two if you consider ‘Egg Heads’) crack totally!
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Marco ...... up when he turned down Dennings offer. He'd be booting around in 5th or 6th with more to come.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 22 2010, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>MotoGP, its about the mouse trap...


This is intriguing. Are you saying that Honda is completely sandbagging, while all the attention is on Yamaha and Ducati?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Mar 23 2010, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is intriguing. Are you saying that Honda is completely sandbagging, while all the attention is on Yamaha and Ducati?
NO. I'm saying the Honda's current development detrimental to their rider's results compared to their competitor Yamaha. We know Peders is fast, as is Marco, etc.; so to see their poor testing positions is indicative that the bike is not as good as their rival Yamaha. Such is the nature of prototype racing.


Also for all the "sandbagging" claims that have been made of late, I call ......... Sandbagging during testing is too much of a risk. How are the riders gonna know the limits during precious testing time while they are supposedly playing headgames. ........!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Mar 23 2010, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Marco ...... up when he turned down Dennings offer. He'd be booting around in 5th or 6th with more to come.
Who here would have chosen Suzuki over Honda? (Perhaps only you my friend). Even a satellite Honda at that. May I remind you that Paul Denning is a large reason why Spies is not with Suzuki. That should tell you what Denning knows.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 23 2010, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who here would have chosen Suzuki over Honda? (Perhaps only you my friend). Even a satellite Honda at that. May I remind you that Paul Denning is a large reason why Spies is not with Suzuki. That should tell you what Denning knows.
You have to admire GS's loyalty tho mate
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Mar 23 2010, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You have to admire GS's loyalty tho mate
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I use to be a Suzuki admirer (think Schwantz & KRJr), but after Denning's questioning in rain drenched Assen regarding Spies' intestinal fortitude was a bit much for me to stomach.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 23 2010, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who here would have chosen Suzuki over Honda? (Perhaps only you my friend). Even a satellite Honda at that. May I remind you that Paul Denning is a large reason why Spies is not with Suzuki. That should tell you what Denning knows.

Regardless of the past look just at the situation right now. Marco would be better on the GS.

Denning knew he couldn't put a world beater in front of Spies and did him the biggest favour he's ever had leaving him free to win the world championship on a better machine. How many ways do I have to explain that? Denning is a good manager. He knows his teams limitiation.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Mar 23 2010, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the past look just at the situation right now. Marco would be better on the GS.

Denning knew he couldn't put a world beater in front of Spies and did him the biggest favour he's ever had leaving him free to win the world championship on a better machine. How many ways do I have to explain that? Denning is a good manager. He knows his teams limitiation.
Not how I, nor many at the time construed this turn of events GSfan.

I know of Paul Denning of old - remember Cresent Suzuki is a Brit team. Yes I agree he is a good manager, and may well know his team limitations, but I'm not sure he knows his own. Gary Taylor on the other hand...

Marco better on the GS??!! a bike that doesn't work on over half the circuits on the calendar and is lackluster at another third; lead by a developmental team/budget from Japan so meagre that their entire personnel on the journey to and from the airport can be fitted in a compact hire car at each race - and I kid you not!!!
 
Really hope Melandri can sort it out, he deserves a good ride. At that, all the people talking smack probably missed 05.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Mar 23 2010, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Denning knew he couldn't put a world beater in front of Spies and did him the biggest favour he's ever had leaving him free to win the world championship on a better machine. How many ways do I have to explain that? Denning is a good manager. He knows his teams limitiation.
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Ah, now I see. Paul Denning let one of the best and brightest young talents slip away because in his heart, he wanted to do him a favor and not ride the Suzuki sub-par machine. That's a great pitch to attract Simoncelli from Honda.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Mar 23 2010, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not how I, nor many at the time construed this turn of events GSfan.

I know of Paul Denning of old - remember Cresent Suzuki is a Brit team. Yes I agree he is a good manager, and may well know his team limitations, but I'm not sure he knows his own. Gary Taylor on the other hand...

Marco better on the GS??!! a bike that doesn't work on over half the circuits on the calendar and is lackluster at another third; lead by a developmental team/budget from Japan so meagre that their entire personnel on the journey to and from the airport can be fitted in a compact hire car at each race - and I kid you not!!!

Glass half empty eh Arab? Well we'll see. Fifth in the latest test and Marco...dismal. Even a poor factory team is a factory team.

Marco better do well or he's painting houses soon.
 
i was reading this earlier. must really suck for melandri and chelli. in one pic i added it really looks like they're just sitting there waiting for a miracle to happen. must suck ballz when ur doubting ur experience or the machine
 
IMO melandri just can't get to the razors edge on the 800, hopefully he will hang around until we go back to higher displacement......he was great on the 990.

The odd flash of brillance on the hayate kawak was a gentle reminder of how good he is, must be frustrating for all Honda pilots, they have a long year ahead
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Mar 23 2010, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>IMO melandri just can't get to the razors edge on the 800, hopefully he will hang around until we go back to higher displacement......he was great on the 990.

The odd flash of brillance on the hayate kawak was a gentle reminder of how good he is, must be frustrating for all Honda pilots, they have a long year ahead
im hopping a few of the old school well find themselves back at the sharp end once we ditch the 800's
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