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Suck to be Ron Dennis. Just the proof I needed to say Hamilton is not that great of a driver. He is more hype that fast.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hayden Fan @ Sep 13 2007, 08:51 PM) [snapback]90436[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Suck to be Ron Dennis. Just the proof I needed to say Hamilton is not that great of a driver. He is more hype that fast.
Scott Speed was SOOO much faster than his teammate wasn't he?
He's beating his 2x WDC teammat, he's not hype.
Suck to be Ron Dennis. Just the proof I needed to say Hamilton is not that great of a driver. He is more hype that fast.
Scott Speed was SOOO much faster than his teammate wasn't he?
He's beating his 2x WDC teammat, he's not hype.
How the hell can you say Hamilton is not a good driver?? It's his first year, and he's whipped (so far) everyone's arse!
Yet another load of un-diluted crap from across the pond.
Yet another load of un-diluted crap from across the pond.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phildean @ Sep 13 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]90438[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yet another load of un-diluted crap from across the pond.
WTF do you mean by that?
Yet another load of un-diluted crap from across the pond.
WTF do you mean by that?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(xx CURVE xx @ Sep 13 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]90440[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
WTF do you mean by that?
Well, what was going to be achieved by saying a rookie championship leader is all hype and no talent?
WTF do you mean by that?
Well, what was going to be achieved by saying a rookie championship leader is all hype and no talent?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phleg @ Sep 13 2007, 03:01 PM) [snapback]90441[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Well, what was going to be achieved by saying a rookie championship leader is all hype and no talent?
Oh OK...nevermind then.... carry on...
Well, what was going to be achieved by saying a rookie championship leader is all hype and no talent?
Oh OK...nevermind then.... carry on...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phildean @ Sep 13 2007, 03:55 PM) [snapback]90438[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
How the hell can you say Hamilton is not a good driver?? It's his first year, and he's whipped (so far) everyone's arse!
Yet another load of un-diluted crap from across the pond.
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
How the hell can you say Hamilton is not a good driver?? It's his first year, and he's whipped (so far) everyone's arse!
Yet another load of un-diluted crap from across the pond.
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hayden Fan @ Sep 13 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]90443[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
Mmmm, yeah, right.
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
Mmmm, yeah, right.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hayden Fan @ Sep 13 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]90443[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
So what about 2-time world champ Fernando? Why isn't he leading?
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
So what about 2-time world champ Fernando? Why isn't he leading?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hayden Fan @ Sep 14 2007, 06:03 AM) [snapback]90443[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year.
He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hayden Fan @ Sep 13 2007, 10:03 PM) [snapback]90443[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
I'm sure he IS that fast!! How can you even say that Hamilton isn't that good?? Have you watched his previous f1 career??? He almost dominated everything, maybe he didn't dominate everything, but he sure as hell won almost everything, and the guy is only 22!! It's not even about what he achieved before he entered F1, he's leading the WDC for almost all season now, according to your logic he has been ''cheating'', then so has Alonso, and STILL he's in front of the 2 time world champion. I personally think Lewis is one hell of a talent, and he's exactly what f1 needed if you ask me.
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
I'm sure he IS that fast!! How can you even say that Hamilton isn't that good?? Have you watched his previous f1 career??? He almost dominated everything, maybe he didn't dominate everything, but he sure as hell won almost everything, and the guy is only 22!! It's not even about what he achieved before he entered F1, he's leading the WDC for almost all season now, according to your logic he has been ''cheating'', then so has Alonso, and STILL he's in front of the 2 time world champion. I personally think Lewis is one hell of a talent, and he's exactly what f1 needed if you ask me.
Cheating motherfuckers
In a 16-page document, the FIA said emails showed that test driver Pedro de la Rosa and fellow-Spaniard Fernando Alonso had been aware of the Ferrari data.
"The emails show unequivocally that both Mr Alonso and Mr de la Rosa received confidential Ferrari information via Mike Coughlan.
"Both drivers knew that this information was confidential Ferrari information and that both knew that the information was being received by Coughlan from Nigel Stepney," the report states.
In what is being viewed as the most damning section of the report, the FIA has published an email exchange between De la Rosa and Alonso.
"All the information from Ferrari is very reliable," De la Rosa wrote to Alonso on 25 March in an exchange about the Ferrari's weight distribution.
"It comes from Nigel Stepney, their former chief mechanic - I don't know what post he holds now.
"He's the same person who told us in Australia that Kimi (Raikkonen) was stopping in lap 18. He's very friendly with Mike Coughlan, our chief designer and he told him that."
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In a 16-page document, the FIA said emails showed that test driver Pedro de la Rosa and fellow-Spaniard Fernando Alonso had been aware of the Ferrari data.
"The emails show unequivocally that both Mr Alonso and Mr de la Rosa received confidential Ferrari information via Mike Coughlan.
"Both drivers knew that this information was confidential Ferrari information and that both knew that the information was being received by Coughlan from Nigel Stepney," the report states.
In what is being viewed as the most damning section of the report, the FIA has published an email exchange between De la Rosa and Alonso.
"All the information from Ferrari is very reliable," De la Rosa wrote to Alonso on 25 March in an exchange about the Ferrari's weight distribution.
"It comes from Nigel Stepney, their former chief mechanic - I don't know what post he holds now.
"He's the same person who told us in Australia that Kimi (Raikkonen) was stopping in lap 18. He's very friendly with Mike Coughlan, our chief designer and he told him that."
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I'm not sure what to think of all this????
Did this really happen the way it is described in the article??
If so, then I'm really really disappointed, but everything is so vague..
Did this really happen the way it is described in the article??
If so, then I'm really really disappointed, but everything is so vague..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Franco Fangio @ Sep 14 2007, 11:00 AM) [snapback]90571[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I'm sure he IS that fast!! How can you even say that Hamilton isn't that good?? Have you watched his previous f1 career??? He almost dominated everything, maybe he didn't dominate everything, but he sure as hell won almost everything, and the guy is only 22!! It's not even about what he achieved before he entered F1, he's leading the WDC for almost all season now, according to your logic he has been ''cheating'', then so has Alonso, and STILL he's in front of the 2 time world champion. I personally think Lewis is one hell of a talent, and he's exactly what f1 needed if you ask me.
I`m not a fan of F1 but I have seen Lewis drive last year in whatever series it was and the boy IS fast and he still pushes the limits now.Doesn`t really matter which car he drives ,he will get the best out of it!!!
I'm sure he IS that fast!! How can you even say that Hamilton isn't that good?? Have you watched his previous f1 career??? He almost dominated everything, maybe he didn't dominate everything, but he sure as hell won almost everything, and the guy is only 22!! It's not even about what he achieved before he entered F1, he's leading the WDC for almost all season now, according to your logic he has been ''cheating'', then so has Alonso, and STILL he's in front of the 2 time world champion. I personally think Lewis is one hell of a talent, and he's exactly what f1 needed if you ask me.
I`m not a fan of F1 but I have seen Lewis drive last year in whatever series it was and the boy IS fast and he still pushes the limits now.Doesn`t really matter which car he drives ,he will get the best out of it!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DRILL666 @ Sep 14 2007, 06:47 PM) [snapback]90654[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I`m not a fan of F1 but I have seen Lewis drive last year in whatever series it was and the boy IS fast and he still pushes the limits now.Doesn`t really matter which car he drives ,he will get the best out of it!!!
YEP!!!! Seems that way!
I think it doesnt matter if he'll win the title this year or not, cause he already proven soooo much this season. He showed from the start he doesnt care who is teammate is, whether its a 2time world champion or not, he still pushes till the maximum, he showed us he can win races, dominate races, and the most important thing, he doesnt make too many errors, no big one yet. This guy isn't just good, he's really really good!! I'm sooo glad we have him in f1 the next years!!
I`m not a fan of F1 but I have seen Lewis drive last year in whatever series it was and the boy IS fast and he still pushes the limits now.Doesn`t really matter which car he drives ,he will get the best out of it!!!
YEP!!!! Seems that way!
I think it doesnt matter if he'll win the title this year or not, cause he already proven soooo much this season. He showed from the start he doesnt care who is teammate is, whether its a 2time world champion or not, he still pushes till the maximum, he showed us he can win races, dominate races, and the most important thing, he doesnt make too many errors, no big one yet. This guy isn't just good, he's really really good!! I'm sooo glad we have him in f1 the next years!!
This is always the case between seasons, when Engineers, drivers etc change teams its inevitable that they compare notes.
However McLaren got off lightly and should have been banned for the next 3 years IMO.
However McLaren got off lightly and should have been banned for the next 3 years IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hayden Fan @ Sep 13 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]90443[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
wtf has that go to do with lewis, the car drives it's self now does it ?
the hearing cleared lewis of any wrong doing. lewis is not good because of hype,he is good because he came from gp2 and can really drive with or without tc.
Yeah, by cheating. Driving a car that has equipment and esign ideas that where stolen. He might not have known, but his team did. He is fast, but not as fast as he is this year. I think Lewis' whole very long career could be tainted by this.
wtf has that go to do with lewis, the car drives it's self now does it ?
the hearing cleared lewis of any wrong doing. lewis is not good because of hype,he is good because he came from gp2 and can really drive with or without tc.
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