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Pedrosa isn't even one of my favorites, nor do "i love him" (other than, i'd love to give him a piggy back ride because i think he's shorter than me). I'm just saying he's good and I think he deserves the bike more than Aoyama & this mythical Casey Stoner unicorn type thing you all are wishing & cranking your weenies for.

But for real guys...do you think Pedro is gonna retire after this season?

EDIT: okay - the mythical Casey Stoner unicorn, would actually be super awesome if it swooped in and took Pedro's bike – because unicorns.
 
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Agreed, everyone can get that RCV into the top ten. Oh wait, except Redding.
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Oh that was good. Frankly i don't know whats up there. I totally rate Redding higher than Stasy Cuntslow.
 
Jumkie said:
Oh that was good. Frankly i don't know whats up there. I totally rate Redding higher than Stasy Cuntslow.
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I fell into the Cuntslow trap.

Looked promising, then after you watch him a bit more, he makes the same mind-numbing ..... mistakes you expect from backmarkers. The Le Mans crash explanation was just L-O-L.

"I went down the hill and I always put my foot out when I'm braking," explained Crutchlow. "I put it back on the peg as I went to the corner but my foot dropped off the rear brake and it went under the bike. As it did that I grabbed the front brake. It was a mistake on my part, I locked the front because I grabbed the brake so fast but I was already braking. The twitch literally [from his foot falling from the peg] just made me grab the front brake harder. I was disappointed that it was live on TV at the time but that’s the way it is!"
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Clearly a future MotoGP champion ladies and gentlemen.
 
Jumkie said:
Oh that was good. Frankly i don't know whats up there. I totally rate Redding higher than Stasy Cuntslow.
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I certainly think he's better than his results show this year, and I'm disappointed/mystified as to why he is struggling. However, you don't get many second chances at this level.
 
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I certainly think he's better than his results show this year, and I'm disappointed/mystified as to why he is struggling. However, you don't get many second chances at this level.
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I think the answer is simple, he's an overrated rider.

If you're going to make mistakes, have the decency to make them big.

This trivial mistake .... screams amateur hour.
 
I happened to find this gem on YouTube just before, epic last lap battle at Suzuka in '91. Doohan and Schwantz going head to head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HXqZh5oTK0

That is good clean racing with the riders respecting each other, and not engaging in kamikaze moves that put both at risk. As such, I started imagining if it were MurderMac out there in that battle.

The odds are that MurderMac would have engaged in numerous dangerous divebomb maneuvers that might have seriously injured someone.

Someone should show him this clip and explain what clean racing consists of.
 
Interesting Jums, great vids.

Which rider was it that brought in a strategy of diving right back past a rider that overtakes them in a bid the 'break their rhythm'? It does seem to be encouraging Kamikaze moves. Who know, maybe to a much lesser extent MotoGP is moving the way of F1 where young riders begin to take the safety for granted. It certainly in Marquez' case falls back to Jumkie sargument that he gets lauded when he crashes (like the 'Fastest crash in history').
 
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Interesting Jums, great vids.

Which rider was it that brought in a strategy of diving right back past a rider that overtakes them in a bid the 'break their rhythm'? It does seem to be encouraging Kamikaze moves. Who know, maybe to a much lesser extent MotoGP is moving the way of F1 where young riders begin to take the safety for granted. It certainly in Marquez' case falls back to Jumkie sargument that he gets lauded when he crashes (like the 'Fastest crash in history').
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This divebombing method of trying to overtake has become an epidemic of sorts in many different race series. It started I want to say in the mid-90s in F1 with Michael Schumacher trying to bully people right off the track if god forbid they didn't leave the door open for him.

MotoGP, well...I don't know enough, but it certainly did seem like VR made a living of diving past early on to at least show himself to the other rider even if the move didn't stick.

MurderMac though has taken it to a new level altogether while getting applauded by the Kropo's of the world for his dange...er I mean daring maneuvers. As I said, if anyone ever gets seriously injured or killed because of the moves, I'm certain the propaganda pieces will be out in record time to say the other rider should have defied the laws of space and time to move out of the way for thou anointed savior of MotoGP. That they wound up dead was of no concern in the larger scheme of things, because had they truly wanted to live, they should have known their place in the natural order of things. Only an unbeliever would dare challenge the rule of the gods.
 
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They were little devils those bikes, they could ping you into orbit, proper bikes them even if they did sound like your dads lawnmower.
 
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EDIT: okay - the mythical Casey Stoner unicorn, would actually be super awesome if it swooped in and took Pedro's bike – because unicorns.
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Someone commented with this on crash.net

I read from GPOne that Casey received a gift (and possibly more...) from Lamborghini. I mention this bc Casey recently and oddly congratulated the Ducati team and of course Audi is father, making Ducati and Lamborghini brothers... Minorly interesting if nothing else, goes to show #27 is on the radar.
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mylexicon said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sia_sk_K2q8

This is what racing was like before the shoddy spec tire rules and sophisticated electronic nannies.

Of course, there were many boring races, but at least you knew the rider was unstoppable, not that the tires were unusable for most teams or the fuel computers were glitching.
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The four stroke era really dialed down the excitement. I am not a geezer given to bouts of nostalgia (tho admittedly I am a geezer); racing truly was more exciting then. Look how many times the lead changed in that race and how many privateers were in the mix. Nobody ran away with lead and the quality of racing was better because riders really needed skills to contend with riding twitchy two-strokes in such close quarters for the entire race. There wasn't so much a thing as "race strategy" but rather everybody going for it right from the start - rarely with people taking other out in the first two turns. It was like one long sprint race. As you said; much more about the skills of the riders and not how much money Honda or Yamaha could pour into the bike. Also - a big factor - was the bountiful spreading of money by Big (evil) Tobacco for teams other than just the top four factory bikes.
 
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